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How odd is that; two consecutive releases promoting the same song and using the same backing track. Would anyone know as to why ? Is there some sort of history around it ?

I'd say different pressing plants involvement...

A real energetic band with a frantic drummer and an "unleashed" Jackey Beavers on a hell of a tune ! Likely his best effort that got him this release on Mainstream for national distribution. And I do value his other stuffs but this tune's composition is likely his strongest. That even got to be re-recorded by 2 other artist under his guidance. There seem to be as many copies of the promo as of this issue around. Only the promo copies bears the 'A' side 'when something is wrong with my baby' on both sides. This actual copy for sale is super clean and only bears the typical wear of the label and the faintest scuffs on the record NAP making it an Ex+ copy. Sound clip from both sides with stylus drop and lift and hi-res scans from actual record. jackey beavers show.mp3 £250 FREE SHIPPING ALL OVER THE WORLD Grading through M - EX - VG - G... Free shipping all over the world to have it registered add £8 PM me to inquire

Wow, didn't know that ! The successive formations of Walter & the Admeration's, the High Society, the Green Berets, the Internationals then the Persuaders, who actually originated from Chicago, in a Show Stoppers wanna bees act... 'ain't nothing but a record swindle'...

Thanks for those inputs Rick. Still it doesn't say as to why the production credentials and Publishings accordingly don't match or even more, tend to point out an infringement issue between two persons at least. Rights are not necessarily labeled owned. Hence the real split between those two USA contemporary 1968 re-releases... Rather show or explain some sort of legal or not deal settlement/agreement... The band the Show Stoppers stayed on the MGM "side" after that... I guess there was more at stake than just spare label$...

No boot of the Party Time and while I'm at it, I am sure that the Guyden 'oldie series' release is actually dating from 1968. As it's even the release that sent the HIT to the UK for the Beacon release then to the rest of Europe from March 1968 onward. The Guyden release bares the 1231 catalogue number and it's the last release for the label in that serial numbering system. The previous release Guyden 1230 dates from November 1967 ! The 7T's Jamie/Guyden reissues and releases never looked like their 6T's counterparts anyway. This one does to me.

My try at this... If the Showtime release came out first, as the matrix on the Party Time release uses the same stamper, the production credits could be the issue at stake here. For the publishing on the Party Time only the 'Clairlyn Pub. Co. (BMI)' is credited and the Production goes to Del Shahar (also spelled SHARH)... Where on the Showtime the 'Dandelion Music (BMI)' publisher's credit is added BUT the Production goes to a sole Bruce Charles... So there was likely an infringement on one or both parties as to who the production belonged to... Let's say the Showtime release came out first; The Showtime release was an instant local and national success (it had even more success a year later and went internationally) and likely someone who had access to the Showtime stamper for a "corrected/revenge" release used them for the second and final release on Party Time records... Only without the distribution power and coverage for promotion as the Jamie/Guyden Group had only few copies of the Party Time made it in the shops (why it's rarer)... Before the label went doomed... Likely some law-suit deal or arrangement emerge later and while the song was still doing strong a year later the Guyden release followed-up to satisfy a demand as an "oldie" (USA dainty trends obsolescence tag) and not fearing, Del Sharah managed on his side a licensed deal with MGM for the release on Heritage. Now this would explain the Showtime very first release with the followed-up Guyden giving copyrights to the Beacon one in the UK then the rest of Europe... And the "revenge" Show Party contemporary second release with the followed-up Heritage (MGM group) release a year later sharing the production credits this time between Del Sharah and Jerry Ross (!!!) giving birth to the following Show Stoppers tracks on MGM who likely remained true to Del Sharah in the story...

Record was bought as NOS some 20 years ago when I was buying bulks of "reggae" stuffs. Remained as sparkling since that day with only a little tear on the spindle hole likely made during the label molding at the factory... Sound clip from both sides with stylus drop and lift and scans from actual record. willingham.mp3 £30 FREE SHIPPING ALL OVER THE WORLD Grading through M - EX - VG - G... Free shipping all over the world to have it registered add £8 PM me to inquire

YES, link please !

I know I'm focusing on the double decimals only but still the Delcos and Pearlan Gray over the hundred and a half !? JM's auctions are not for the very wealthy then... John Doe can also have his little "infatuation" moment

What shall I be looking out for on SirShambling wonderful site ? A provided link might help maybe ?

It's all another recording session.

No it's an early 7T's version totally legit and not made for the center of the universe; England that is (LOL). Do you have a scan of the actual copy of yours that was withdrawn from Dis 'Ogs ?

This re-worked version sounds better (cleaned up) as the original edited 45 is rather messy. Too much for me anyway. Thanks indeed. But where does one find it ?

No, you're right. Minty more toward £100 though for the Marvellos. Now what about the Dells almost reaching £200 is kinda sick !!! And Lou Johnson WDJ rarer but blowing above £200... Babylon A Fall, the end is nigh, troubled times...

Real CLASS on this haunting 2-sider. Ex visual (few scuffs NAP) and strong Ex play wise. Scans and soundclip of both sides of the actual record speak for themselves. thrill gone.mp3 £120 FREE SHIPPING ALL OVER THE WORLD Grading through M - EX - VG - G... Free shipping all over the world to have it registered add £8 PM me to inquire

Thanks 'bo diddley' for the "enlightenment" and

after last weekend show and the 'interesting' takes Can someone enlighten on to what exactly this refers to ? I guess I'm missing something that is so obvious...

Because to world outside the northern soul scene was and is still bigger even outside the UK...

If not one of the better Funk Brothers backing track work at least one of the most singular ones that still grabs you by the guts. This double sider offering is presented in one of the most desirable form IMHO. It's also a rare release as it is a real nice one. Hence the price takes into account the following condition as described here below. The picture sleeve has to be graded only as a VG. On the front cover a bend mark from top to bottom on the third left and on the top open slide few creases, faint red felt pen "X"oc just before 'LOVE IS AN...' a pair of horizontal "scratches" on Diana ROSS and Mary WILSON faces. Back side of cover top left some pencil numbers... record itself is a nice EX condition. Sound clip from both sides with stylus drop and lift and scans from actual record. £50 NOW £40 !!! FREE SHIPPING ALL OVER THE WORLD Grading through M - EX - VG - G... Free shipping all over the world to have it registered add £8 PM me to inquire

In the audio intellectual chosen few circles it is the concienscius that when using the same tape of an instrumental backing track, no matter how reworked, it is acknowledge it to be the "same" backing track. But in the slumbs of the Bourgeois Paul le Shrews such fine understanding in distinction of mixes using the same backing track indulge mental stress and confusion. Accordingly it helps the poor soul to simmer down with the belief it to be not the same backing track due a rework of the mix. There is alway an educative, rational scientific explanation to everything. Voilà ! LOL

What was that ?

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No 'cos I am Timmy ! I do tend to trust my ears before anything where in the past I use to give the credits-bility to the "pioneers". Only I dropped out of that "authentic" collector point of ear and rely on my first impression mainly. And I am always curious as glad to hear versions I am not aware off and so forth. But on this example tho whole song (production-wise and in vocal variations) Sp&Su still works better to my ears. I love Chuck, but to me the "echoey" just drawn down the song and the moments is kind of synthetic and "flat" to leave me dubious. Sp&Su is kitsch in my book and I do appreciate that still from time to time...

This is the original 1970 release of the long version of 'stoned love' reissued years later on the Motown Yester-Year series. It's vinyl is in EX- VG++ condition. Translucid colored vinyl are hard to visually grade. Under a strong light it does bares some scuffs but no scratches. The labels have apparently suffered from some water exposure and do show some stains and wear from that. High resolution scans and sound clip from both sides of the record will allow anyone to judge better. £50 FREE SHIPPING ALL OVER THE WORLD Grading through M - EX - VG - G... Free shipping all over the world to have it registered add £8 PM me to inquire