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I voted for but it's all the same at that stage. It is indeed not "clean". That is why I much prefer this version to the Tempos's cut actually. That "bad" BIG/DEEP VOICE negroid slam is just surprisingly fantastic the first time you hear it. Puts a grim smile on my face while laughing inside. Since that first time I can't stop listening to it ! Had to have a copy. And it's been 25 years now... Still works the same on me. OK, I love the "corky" bits and in the Fidels 'I'm giving you notice' on Doré the female break in the middle comes in after the guy's list of argument to her bullshit and she still comes in like a Princess; are you going believe what I tell ya or are you going to believe what you see ? And he goes in despair Aaaaaah... Unworthy of any more beans spilling: NOTICE baby ! I'm gonna find another girl. Almost but not quite macho. Tastik

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OK, I'll take the inclination to "believe", YES you heard me "I AM A BELIEVER" for the moment at least, that Silky is black. If ever someone could come across another picture of Silky please report on here. We will be forever worthy of On the portrait side of things, I drew too. I know what it is to make people's portrait. Being a good drawer is not all. It also requires humility, as not to see ourselves in those we love and portrait them as we perceive ourselves or, if not love, to turn it into a caricature of something else that still belongs to the pencil holder somehow.

I'm listening to music, not to a tune per say. I love my smoothies, lowies tempos and whisperies vocals sound as well, but only because a "smoother" version of a said tune exist, doesn't mean I'll be automatically inclined to it. In this case, I must say that I was not impressed to say the least when I first heard Sydney Barnes 'I heard on the other side'. I was even disappointed expecting too much since I knew Jerry Cook's version first and was expecting a rougher banger cut... to hear a faint munchy backing track and a Sydney mumbling something where I couldn't recognize the tune first to a point but only by the lyrics.

In the same "understanding" of it; the rarity factor, which was/is inherent of the rare soul scene, comes into the ear "education"and flavor... And I understand those who might not like the Oomph ! of the Jerry Cook which would make the Sidney Barnes bare-able even if not great.

I think it makes a lot of sense; the 3 Stephanye 45's date from early 1966 (February and May) prior to Berry Gordy hands on Wingate records (with Golden World and Stephanye). All those 3 Stephanye singles feature the same credits. Only Roy Handy's 'baby that's a groove' side was release as a Jobette tune co-composed by Holland Dozier and George Clinton... as an old venture trade mark gesture of some sort... So likely when the Inspirations re-released it, somewhere after in 1966, Jobette owned the song and re-realeased it to make it a HIT under Shelby Singleton "pop" ensemble direction !

Close to but no match to me. That is why the drawing is not conclusive. Plus this drawing is made from a picture. So if the same guy as from the picture, either the drawer intentionally "twist" the picture or he wasn't a good portraitist. The similarities maybe there (haircut, wide front head, linear eyebrows, medium large nose and lips) but the "person" is not in my eyes. If shown wrong, I'll be more than happy to finally have seen Silky, the black dude and admit to my misjudgment !

Thanks for the input. But still it is no proof. Only on this thread one of the two showed pictures was ruled out. The first one with the 2 Wheelsville labels is still questionable as it's not established one way or the other as to who it is for sure. The wonderful advert for the Dearborn 45 is a drawing not stating that Silky resemble the character. Many "fake" figures" are used to "embellish" a product... The "somebody told me or showed me" is left to the memories that are what they are; only memories. And willingly or not just adding to the grapevine, rumors or urban legends.

To be honest Robb, I don't even recognize Silky's voice on this unreleased take of 'lucky to be loved by you'. I couldn't even guess to put a name on that voice. Where on his 6 released sides even though he changed of shirt, hat and socks his voice timber betrays him. Both his D-Town 45 and Wheelsville sides are so "black" on everything about them, that it's only when you allow to question Silky's "pedigree" and re-listen to them another way, leaving room to the possibility that... Yeah... Maybe... Likely... Right ! Where for his Dearborn 45, it always made me believe that this guy there was white. Or could that be the "black" guy we knew from the D-Town and Wheelsville 45's wanted to go break bigger and reach the "pop" market to sound "white" ? Goes without saying nothing wrong with it one way or the other. For me his 3 singles are of cult statues and I'd love to unveil some of the mysteries around the man like the OP 'Soul Slider'. We'd love to know it all but a little slice of that guy's who's and whereabouts would be a blessing already.

I did a lot of finally dreaded G**gl search a while ago and only found stories about the white guy hanging with his mates; JJ Barnes, Cody Black, Steve Mancha & Co. in the studios and never a picture was shown. Even when requested it was a point blank. Even the first picture taken from the forum Soulful Detroit is no match for the drawing from the advert.

Sorry but there's no match and these are all pictures of Isaac Kari at different decades of it's life showing the resemblance far from the drawing anyway...

On the right of Rufus is a record producer and businessman as record shop chain owner called Isaac Kari !

I don't get it, most testimony I read a while ago from that Detroit gang talked about a white guy and he certainly sounds like one. No pictures popped-up to this day as far as I know. And I'd love to see one since I own and love all his records from his long discography...

With different flip-side as well...

Checked ! Noticed ! Got the mission 5 out of 5. Sir, yes Sir ! LOL. Based in Belgium, I never had the chance to travel so much. Young and not rich, my crate digging was rather limited and so not everything could be so evident as to be heard like in clubs or from tape swapping. There was no northern scene in this country and only few elder mods would provide a "source" but that was "limited" for knowledge in soul. Still thankful to them for the "initiation"into that ! ;) I knew "touch me, kiss me hold me" for a long time and kinda (only) like it. I loved the song and composition but like for many Shelby Singleton productions, the "pop" treatment always came in the way between the record and my ears. I first discovered the 'goose pimple' and bought it instantly at a record fair some 25 years ago here in Brussels from the box of a Pop-Corn ex-collectionner amongst 100 other singles. All was almost mint and costed $3 a piece... Happy days ! Instantly I sold my Inspirations copy and my curiosity around the who's, where's and why's between those two records arose my curiosity since, like you, I just love 'goose pimple' and couldn't understand the reasons with so many protagonist involved on both records for the title and publishers to change. One can develop different speculative theories on the matter but I'm after facts. Any lead is welcome...

Anyone know the story behind this ? Same song, different titles one, different publishers Myto and one Jobette and 2 composers are involved on both and one not... But J. Crosby reappears on the credit for the flip of Shirley J. Scott 'lonely girl'...

And it's escalating... LOL

NOOOO ! Please don't play it out ! Leave Georgia Gibb out of Northern Soul...

Love that SirShambling site owned by a gentleman. Very resourceful comprehensive informations... I didn't even know Jerry Cook had another 45 still backed-up by Mr. Arthur Wright. Even if the titles don't make the Troyxx single so appealing. Still interesting to know the team lasted a wee longer. I hear similarities in the "phrasing" way of singing but as to the voice... the tone is not the same even if one can alter that just like that. Who is actually that chap on the Doré label under those names variation; Kennard Gardner, Kenny Garner, Kynnard, Kenard ? Could it be our Jerry Cook Northern Soul Hero under a pseudo ?

Jerry Cook by a mile at first, second and last hear. This is a personal point of view following, but heart and soul do have their reasons. Masons will try everything to make you believe the heart have it's reasons that the conscience can't explain but I'm not that at all. Sidney Barnes kinda like "moans" the tune which is only faintly recognizable as it is "melted" in a "wall" kinda sound musical steady beat accompany. Sidney on top sings 'I hurt...' but sounds just like he would say 'I'm bored...' ...at least that's how he sounds to these ears of mine. Neither Sidney's voice nor the musical backing track manage to take me at any point really. Only the female backing vocals I find to be haunting. But that alone don't make a tune in my book. On the collector side of things, I totally understand the excitement of such a pedigree record to own though. Sidney's cut sounds almost like a demo cut/version to me as it doesn't fit right this most peculiar outstanding tense composition. Even his contemporary 'you'll always be in style' is all 'edge & loud' to deliver his composition in full bloom ! Where with Jerry Cook's cut the musical approach really kicks in. Memorable intro with a frantic bass attack, piano steps, drum entry and distant cavalry horns charging right at you. The odd, but IMO fantastic, vocal inclinations of Jerry Cook telling his tale with clarity not giving up into despair, is W.O.R.K.I.N.G. bA-beEe ! Another wonderful Arthur Wright arrangement job... I rest my case !

Me too, I expect something not to be happy about the rarity of this sole stocker from MGM. From the mid sixties, Verve and MGM 45's that didn't sell as expected all and always ended in the sales stalls with a drill hole. Where this one didn't suffer the drill cut fate if ever it didn't sell. Likely it never made it to the stores. As the other stocker pressed. And as you suggested likely got withdrawn and god knows what happened to them after...

I have my promo copy of Duke 352 on the "new design" orange (pink promo) label of 'how does a cheating woman feels" flipped with 'yield not to temptation' like many of us. But Duke 336 flipped with 'don't cry no more' on the older yellow and purple label is indeed rare ! But not that rare as to be offered on a Northern Soul auction IMHO which it is not. Bluesy, Souly and Jazzy maybe. The story/controversy behind it on the other hand makes it rather smoky-hot...

They have more than one single !

To read about "Northern Soul" (underground phenomenon as in maybe) or other complex human made "behavior" in half or less depth doesn't do much for me. Like for all "non offensive" human (teenager or not) organized manifestation, trying to find "justification" in the "wider" world is rather meaningless I find. Well written article... I still hope those "reporters" are getting paid to do that also. Must admit that I only read it diagonally... Got unhooked that fast. Sorry.