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The wording of the listings of both people look similar too: https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270540969640 https://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-FRANKIE-BEVERLY-THE-BUTLERS_W0QQitemZ260585155111QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusic_on_Vinyl?hash=item3cac15ea27 "Much sought after" - probably just a coincidence

I bought 200 from bagsunlimited in 2007 and they told me the postage would be high so I told them to find out how much. It turned out to be $25.15 which about doubled the cost for 200 sleeves but I reckoned at about $50 they were worth it (25c each). When they turned up they had put them in a large (heavy) cardboard box which would have held twice the number of sleeves! Anyway, I asked them in 2008 how much it would cost to post 1000 and 2000 sleeves and this is what they said: The cost on 1000 S7P is $108.78 with a weight of 21 lbs. The cost to ship by US Postal Service International Mail is $85.50 with delivery in 2 weeks. The cost to ship by DHL is $93.65 with delivery in 4 business days. The cost on 2000 S7P is $205.44 with a weight of 40 lbs. The cost to ship by USPS is $142.50 and the cost to ship by DHL is $140.74 I didn't go ahead with the order as I couldn't get a definite commitment from people who had said they would be interested in having some. So it roughly doubles the cost of the sleeves to about 20c each which isn't bad really. The bags unlimited ones fit in the covers 33 cardboard sleeves too. Maybe I should import some and sell them on my web site?

Sorry, I don't understand. Are you selling records?

THIS IS SOLD, THANKS. 21st Century - Coming Right Back/Shadow of a Memory - DOT 17190 I've a nice M- demo copy of this for sale, there is a pencil "X" on the Shadow side other than that it is really clean. The price on this seems to yo yo a bit, Manship has it guided at £250 and popsike shows it at between $250 and $300 so I'd like offers around £200 for it. Postage will be £5.60 special delivery in the UK Drop me a pm or email me at ptp@just7.co.uk Cheers Paul

I'm going to state the obvious here as nobody else has; the one you have is the bootleg so it isn't worth 200 quid. The original is the red/white checked one with blue lettering (see JM's latest guide for examples).

I think the B side is most appropriate in this case: "What A Price To Pay"

Seems to be two people bidding against each other - $860 when I looked. They must be mad! Anyone want my Ex copy for $1000?

Another annoyance with ebay US at the moment is the sheer amount of listings from Craig Moerer - all buy it now at double the going rate. If you looked at ebay from highest price down you used to get to the realistic stuff on page 2 or 3 but his listings sometimes take up a whole page (200!). I have to do auctions only to enjoy a good trawl. I can't believe he sells anything but the most indemand stuff at his silly prices.

You're just doing that to annoy me aren't you

There's a really rough looking issue on ebay [here] that finishes today. Thay may give you a current indication.

I liked it, hadn't heard it before. Bought one off ebay yesterday for 25 squids

I can't believe everyone is taking the p*ss! Outrageous. Victoria, there are some excellent youtube videos that show you Northern Soul dance moves; here is one of the best IMHO.

Good Grief! I look like I've just poured my pint down my shirt! Still, won't be the first or last time

I'm not sure but is this Detroit in the background to Marvin Gaye singing "What's going On" in 1973? If so you can see the decay then. https://www.youtube.c...h?v=Y9KC7uhMY9s

I used to sell these for him off the These Old Shoes web site. Can't remember his name either, I think the emails are on my old laptop so might have a look and see if I can find out. Nice chap. The book is a nice light read like you say.

Of the versions I've heard the Cressa Watson does it for me. One came up on ebay last year but I didn't bid enough

I doubt it, I'm driving with Jo in the car.

You appear to be wearing 2 pairs?

I'm sorry, I'd like to contribute to this thread but I am confused about what are "oldies" and what are "newies" Evidently "oldies" were stuff played before wigan started or just after but then got played at Wigan in Mr M's (and what was his full name?). Whereas "newies" were records broken at wigan in the main room and may have been played later in Mr M's. But evidently that isn't the case, "newies" are really "mid-tempo shite that cost £1000+" or "records we don't know" (and who are "we"?) whilst "oldies" are "100 mph stompers that got played at wigan ... and some things that got played at Stafford .... and some other records that "we" know, but don't know where they were played" And where do records played at The Mecca fit in? Or have I strayed into a prohibited area there? Can someone please give a current definition of what "oldies" and "newies are please? Without giving any examples. I just can't keep up I'm afraid. And I like "Lady in Green" - I think it is pure Detroit Soul

Folk Music was "underground" in 1993? Are you serious? Folk is probably one of the oldest music scenes there is. As for the NS Karaoke CD - an appropriate social comment on Northern Soul at the moment. I'm certain that a number of nights could include an hour of Karaoke without lowering the tone of their evening or reducing the enjoyment of their punters. Did it have Dee Da Do on it?

My missus worked on a trade mark dispute between various versions of this band, quite a bitter dispute I believe.

Thank you for the inspiration on a drab Sunday. Just done a yellow label podcast on my blog

I don't think Northern Soul celebrates failure, its just rebellion against the nonsense of the music business. If you look at the number 1 records of the early 70's just look at the rubbish! There is the occassional good record in there and I must say I liked Slade at the time. The later 70's number ones are even worse! Much of this was manufactured pap from the music industry of the time that churned out shite for a dull majority, just like Simon Cowell does today. The biggest selling artist globally last year? Susan Boyle !! Rare soul music is nearly all music that slipped through the net of a cynical music business and so didn't get any exposure at the time of release. So Northern soul was a scene populated by people who rejected the shite pumped at them by a cynical music industry and embraced good music that had been ignored by an equally cynical music industry. I have a download copy of "Rage Against The Machine - Killing In The Name" that I will never listen to (it is truly awful) but I have it as I liked the idea of a movement to stop Simon Cowell claiming the Christmas No 1. Northern Soul isn't a celebration of failure it is just disgust at what the rest of society thinks passes for music.

But what is wrong with that? If I was 20 (and I wish I was ) given the choice of getting music I liked for free or paying thousands for tunes on a retro format it would be a no-brainer. If you could have got free records in the 70's would you have turned them down insisting on ...... ...... what was the format before records? Oh yeah! The human voice. "No thank you, keep your new fangled record thingys - I prefer my artists to be in the room with me"