Chalky

Never realised Tommy Ridgely was Wigan spin for Searling. Always thought it was John Vincent and few years later.

I understand that Rick and don't disgree but like I said i think we are simply just complicating matters for the sake of it. We generally class records as either, demo (or promo), issue (local and nationally for general sale to the public)), reissue or a bootleg. It is irrelevant if the pink is a special press, it was for all imtents and purposes the first time it was made for sale to the public. So really unless a pink chess distributed copy appears, and there's never been one seen as far as I'm aware or any proof it was even pressed, then this pink one has to be the first issue for general sale.

Nick & the Jaguars was a one off deal for a pre recorded song rather than a signed contract as Motown artists. Debbie Dean was I think the first contracted white Motown Artist to record, I think

It was never issued for general public release or sale though, that's the point I was making. It only got as far as the promotional stage and obviously did nothing over there and release was dropped. It was then issued for the first time on general sale to satisfy the market here.

Well thought out, with imagination and please the dancers then you could get plenty of spots. Thing is there are enough Dj's with the big money rarities you don't need to go down the bootleg or reissue route. Use them with a couple of upcoming youngsters who are doing it right with imagination and it can only be of benefit to the scene. Variety is the spice of life so they say

You can send to my email chalky@karlwhite.me.uk via dropbox or sendspace maybe? Might be weekend before I can download though. Wouldn't mind hearing theric tic revue too

If you can't afford a Rolls Royce you don't buy a bootleg Roller do you. You buy within your means and the same should apply to records, buy originals within your means.

I don't have a recoding of that night Pete but can't wait to hear it. Can you do me a wav recording?

Open the flyer Pete and you will see the year. April 83. 1st anniversary. What memorabilia have you got, I would be interested.

This is where it all starts to get ridiculous and some do like to make it hard work. The demo isn't a first issue, it is what it says a demo. The pink one is the first issue albeit done after the popularity of the disc over here and to satisfy demand here. It can't be a reissue as it hadn't been issued prior to the pink one, just the promo/demo copies that were in circulation.

Hi and thanks. Not sure who it was but I would imagine all on that stage are considered big names? Also with just a top 500 dumbed down to 100 as Kev says you would think they could easily satisfy the dancers with quality originals? I do think it all gets too anal at times though and certain parts of the scene are in danger of disappearing up its arse.

Spot on Kev with all you say. Andy comfortable in whatever environment he is asked to DJ at. I love an oldies night out occasionally and take them at face value, KGH one of the best and if it wasn't for my job I would be doing more nighters including KGH, but I have to be choosey these days. I also have l;little interest in DJ these days and my collecting habits are also changing, more 70's and 80's lately and mainly LP's. As for unpopular but brilliant vinyl depends on the venue, I know where I go they seem pretty popular, not on the scale of KGH but then again not many places are.

Again I think you are missing the whole point of this? But by the same token instead of playing a reissue/acetate of a reissue the big name DJ in question should delve into collection of 'quality' vinyl and play an over looked much cherished classic? They are after all paid a lot of money, and a lot of money is paid buy the public and even if the paying public don't care, on such a stage shouldn't the DJ show he cares?

None taken. I know full well how the majority don't care, that they don't mind listening to records repeated and a limited playlist. I get little free time these days and it isn't how I wish to spend what time I do have. But it isn't talent playing a reissue when three of his fellow DJ's have spent several thousands of pounds to obtain the original, it is a complete lack off respect IMO, not sure how Ginger, Andy and Sean feel about it? There really is no need to play any reissues at any event as there are many competent DJ's out there with the real thing. If the Dj who played the reissue hadn't played it I doubt very much your crowd would have realised nor cared whatsoever as they would have heard it via one of the others. I realise and understand your crowd don't care that they are listening to reissues, I was simply questioning your reasoning behind it when you acknowledged three of your Dj's had a real one, it wouldn't sit comfotably with me either as one of those Dj's nor as a promoter to see this happen.

I fully understand your point of view Kev and Goldsoul does what it says on the tin and why we keep,having the same arguements on here is beyond me. But you said it yourself you have several DJ's with the real thing so allowing the playing of reissues doesn't make sense. There are plenty of DJ's who could and can do the job with originals without compromising your publics enjoyment. at the end of the day isn't it better for a promoters image and reputation that the original release is played?

Pretty sure it was said in a previous topic that he got it from JM.

I don't think it is Carolyn either, I simply listed the details for the acetates of that title. It is probably the acetate with the unknown artist and written by Kerr, Barnes & Gross. I sent Sidney a message last night.

Check out the magma Mark as well.... https://www.djkit.com/magma-bags/magma-7-inch-single-bag-150-black.html?gclid=Cj0KEQiAs6GjBRCy2My09an6uNIBEiQANfY4zF8hRS2Vk7Rxo7z7ufaTShzhrg0vfJZXdtGm0dYaVVkaAjuF8P8HAQ

This is what "Don't Forget The Motor City" says.... Watch Yourself (Luke Gross-George Kerr-Sidney Barnes) publ. Jobete artist(s) unidentified; recording details unknown [rel date unknown] [acetate]; 45 (M): Jobete Watch Yourself Carolyn Crawford; recorded Hitsville, completed 04-Mar-64 ; produced by Andre Williams [rel date unknown] [acetate]; LP (M): JD 234

The handles on then swan are the same now, the one I have is about two years old and is off centre an not a problem to carry, I use it for my sales stuff. There isn't much between blakka and swan quality wise just the price. I wouldn't swap either though for the magma I use now. It is by far the most comfortable of the lot to carry.

the handle is now off centre on Swan cases Joe, mine is.

,i no longer have the 45 and the LP is on my list of to get. So sorry not much use

Sorry but Swan flight are a different class for not much more and they will make whatever size you want. I currently use a magma case, far better, lighter etc.......

Me too, he had didn't know the meaning of thew word mellow. He'd have a field day with some on the scene today! I miss him too, one in a million.

One thing with Pete was he didn't mince his word. he was the same in print or in your face and he told you like it was, no bullshit. He would despair at the scene today and would probably have been banned from the forums long ago Great reading Steve, thanks.