Chalky

Happy birthday Lorraine x

I don’t think they do see it as personal attacks do they? I don’t think they want to be portrayed as they do in the media. Maybe as I said below they are tired of the lazy journalism and simply reeling out the same sterotypical soundbites, dress sense and records

Maybe some of us are simply tired of the way that Northern Soul is portrayed by the media. Lazy stereotypical journalism. Same tired records, Frank Wilson etc, dress code, even Stuart Marconie says this in the BBC four radio programme. It is piss poor and not how the scene actually is today, might be on the parody side of it but not the venues I have attending over the years. Maybe it is time the BBC and other media outlets did approach someone who did many nights at the casino and has remained on the scene to this day? There are enough about who are involved not just attending but running events, record labels and write about the scene. Maybe then you wouldn’t get forums like this criticising what has been written or shown on TV. As for Stuart Marconie, the difference between Wigan and Mecca….he even got that wrong really as up to the mid 70s Mecca discovered many Northern Soul monsters before the difference in styles was different, you only have to look at Mecca playlists up to 74/75 etc. It cannot be explained in a few minutes and maybe it is time they stopped trying to? You say you don’t want shooting for airing your views but want to shoot others for doing just the same as you? Oh, I and many others found the scene without any press, media or TV interference. If you want something different to what you are being fed in life you will find it.

His contribution to Wigan etc cannot be denied. But it is his contribution since and more so of late that I refer to as the ringmaster. His events or the event s he is involved with are a parody of the once great scene he represented. Craig Charles, he has nothing whatsoever to do with the Northern Soul scene, he doesn't nor has he to my knowledge been to events? I have seen him, he Dj'ed at a Lee Fields gig in Manchester, played a mix of soul and funky stuff, nothing to write home about really.

Same old drivel. Same old lazy journalism, same old tired played out records. Where do they get these people from? Winstanley has become a joke, the ringmaster of the circus

divfest. Perfect example of the kind of people we went to nighters to get away from.

Special guests in the studio this week, Tony Lewis and Elaine Sawetz with some great choices and banter.

So how does that apply to say Ady Croasdell, Richard Searling etc? They have covered up many records? Have you done as much as them for the artists and plenty of other Djs who have covered up records?

Jeez cover ups again. What pointless petty arguments. They are failed records in the retail world, (re)discovered years later and reactivated by an underground dance scene 1000s of miles away. The vast majority of artists associated with the scene would have had no recognition at all if it wasn’t for the diggers, Djs and collectors. Some of those covering records up have done more for these artists than anyone else.

It is absolute rubbish to suggest members on here or on the "scene" wish to keep the music for themselves. Many are protective of the scene and if it wasn't for the scene and the diggers then the BBC wouldn't have anything to "celebrate". As said many times every time someone tries to jump on the bandwagon, further "divvyfication", they do not do the scene justice. The concert orchestra of The BBC have so far made a mess of the other acts they have tried to "celebrate". Buddy Holly was pretty bad, Elvis not much better. The further divvyfication by The BBC Concert Orchestra, the vocals I have heard so far from The Proms wasn't that great either. I don't hold too much hope out for the rest when I watch. As said previously by myself, Paul and others, this is everything the scene isn't, it is everything we went to nighters to escape and the people around this the very kind of person we went to nighters to avoid. It would appear most of you do not get that, maybe you were never fully invested in the scene like many who knows?

But as you well know you missed an absolute wealth of soulful material. Neither was the scene confined to just Wigan as you seem to continuously suggest with some from that list from other venues.

I just google, and use one in the list it throws up. Youtube change the coding or whatever every now and then so some stop working

Great story and great work by you all, keep it up.

Here is the interview Bill did Wirth CP Spencer. https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/karlwhite/episodes/2023-07-18T09_31_09-07_00

It wasn't the glowing review you lot on here give it was it?

Mixcloud won't allow the upload of CP Spencer interview as too many tracks buy the same artist, think you are only allowed 5 and they have to be split. Will look at some other way of uploading

But if you haven't seen the programme you don't know the score do you?

Is this an attempt to make the Proms more mainstream? Move away from the upper class twits you associate with it? The very upper class twits who were once closing down the very venues where Northern Soul existed, jailed the clientele for daring to take a few pills to stay awake? I have to agree with everything Paul said tbh. It is everything I went to nighters to escape as are the people you associate with the proms and anything mainstream. The scene was everything normal society wasn't. Something like Northern Soul should not normalised.

If you need to be told then you simply will never get it

Only had a quick listen this morning. MVPS wasn't bad, second track the singer murdered it. I will watch when it is on TV, maybe listen in wagon whilst working.

Mickey is sending it me on a cd, if he allows I will upload it

Here is Micky's page but can't see their link to listen? I know some have been removed.

The vast majority were never on the scene nor still not on the scene....it's definitely sold out and has been a parody for a good few years. It's fast becoming the new Derby & Joan. Most of those going to venues now are the folk we went to nighters to get away from and I still want to get away from the vast majority of them.