Chalky

Bank first issue before MGM.

I respect anyone's opinion, regardless of age, whether I or anyone else agree's with an opinion is a different matter. You made two statements which I don't agree with, the first one, best NS record ever I find particualrly difficult to agree with to be honest, almost laughable. But each to their own!! And just to reiterate what I said earlier I do like the record, both sides. But whether it last the test of time like countless other NS records time will tell.

gotta agree, shall be getting one myself!

With all due respect JT you haven't been round all that long in the grand scheme of things. There's been plenty of records that have packed the floors, some have stood the test of time others have fallen by the way side. The Parliaments is one record from the last couple of years that did and still does get the reaction you talk about and that is a true northern soul record, a rare 60's soul record, not a modern day recording. It's not as good a northern record either as the Mello Souls which also caused quite a stir when first played and still rams the floor. And KGF will never be in the same class as records like Tommy & Derbys, Tommy Tate being one of the finest soul singers ever. Lots of "new" records come along, played to death but are quickly forgotten as they don't have the longevity or lasting appeal of true 60's recordings, time will tell with regards to KGF. My bet it is will hardly be heard in a couple of years.

Decca has risen in price, probably doubled in price since I first started playing it. last one I saw on e-bay was I think over $120. Seems to be plenty of demand for this now and for what is considered a £30 it's not that easy as some other £30 records to come across. See his other on Decca far more often.

mines a US demo and also has a date stamped on it October 16 1967. Maybe Oliver Norman (or is it Norman Oliver as the credits state) was a british singer with a US release? Anyone know owt about him?

I would have thought half the £307 it sold for. Was a £75 disc for some time but I've seen them sold for up to twice that in more recent times.

why big money? are they not going to release it? or are they just gonna release a limited amount?

I agree with you JT it is an excellent record and from hearing the clip it will be a big record on the scene, but IMHO there are far better Northern Soul records, Fidels - Try A Litle HArder, Invitations - Whats Wrong With Me Baby, Fury's - I'm Satisfied ...., Silky Hargreaves, Mello Souls, Diane Lewis, Jerry Williams cover up, Johnny Praye, Timmie Williams, Junior McCants and countless others, be them oldies or newer discoveries. Don't get me wrong it is an excelent record and I am not knocking it, far from it but to make the statement you made is a very brave one considering the countless great records discovered over the last 40 years or so PS. I'll have a copy at Cleethorpes

should have the stamp under the label too....

sure someone once said this was done at same session as Girl Across The Street. Anyone know the dates when both recorded? What do the liner notes of the cd say?

I agree you probably won't get Shuflers for less than £150, not on a list, but that don't mean thats what it's worth. Wasn't that long ago it was a solid £80 record and then all of a sudden it's twice that and more. As far as I can see the value asked for Donald J was for an issue and they go through e-bay for half the price you quote for the demo and £50/£60 on lists.

$146 bout 12 months ago on t'e-bay!

tis an excellent record JT but one of the best NS rcords ever...behave!!

So you value the Shufflers at around £200? given that Donald Jenkins is worth £50 to most apart from the JM guide? agree with you though about two blinding records

so..does this demo have the stamps under the label?

Seen the Donald Jenkins for as low as £40 but often around the £60 or so mark. Always thought Shufflers was an £80/£100 record but seems to have doubled in value Didn't think either were particularly rare, Donald Jenkins more so as up for sale pretty regularly.

Plenty of records that have sold for around £2k on auction that are no where near as rare or good as the Primers.

what Andy Rix had to say about the disc/record.....

Butch covered it as the Sherry's. Andy Rix/Rob Thomas later covered it as Cindy Scott when the got a second acetate. Some info somewhere from Andy, will post it up shortly.

good question your guess as good as anyones Richie, £3k, £4k, £5k? Depends how bad someone wanted this rarity.

pleasure Shep. T'other one is Tommy Ridgely - My Love Gets Stronger.

if it sounded exactly like Ordinary Girl it's probably because it was. The flip is nothing like the top side and although good is probably not good enough to play out, it's certainly not as good as the top side, not in the same league IMHO.

there's more than one Kenny....