Thinksmart
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Sad news and very young for such a long career. -
It was okay but reduced the history too much for me to cover just Gospel/Aretha/Sam Cooke, South/Stax/Otis & Detroit/Motown. Jackie Wilson and Chicago Soul, New York Soul & importance of Harlem Apollo, Drifters & Ben E King all totally ignored as examples. Black Doo Wop, girl groups and evolution into early Soul missing. Key early artists in the transition who were big stars at the time such as Hank Ballard or Little Willie John missing. No New Orleans soul mentioned at all which and no mention of Jazz evolving to incorporate the Soul Jazz subgenre of the time. Footage of Civil Rights but The Impressions not mentioned alongside as could of added musical context. Sometimes felt like a Civil Rights programme told through Soul music, not the other way around. Might of helped if key songs like Get a Job and You Better Move On mentioned. No doubt Stevie Wonder, Smokey, Impressions, JB will be in next week. I enjoyed the artist interviews and old footage - the rest I was very disappointed with. Soul deserves the Ken Burns style extensive series. I am grateful for the series but do not see how such as Jackie Wilson, Fats Domino, Gladys Knight, Drifters etc could be totally ignored without even a mention as there was plenty of time for extensive non musical context. I know I am asking for too much, modern documentaries now pick a narrow path through their subjects, but I welcome the day we get a more complete study.
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Looking forward to it Pete. Rod's book arrived quickly today.
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Great. Post up soon as you can with details. We all appreciate your continued dedication I'm sure. All these books are very welcome to me.
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Excellent, thank you. I have Amazon Prime and rarely use the TV side of it. These will be welcome watches. Sky Arts/Documentaries and BBC4 are another source I checked the schedules of every week too.
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Public Domain music within the limitations of expired copyright under the law is still legit of course. I'd rather people deal with the original license holders, but the debate on legal copyright expiry is a complex one. As we know that is an interesting and wider topic.
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"Given that Mickey Finn's the only one who replied to my question, I've still no idea." I gave a comprehensive answer as your first reply at the start, that was very clear on what'll pay as a premium. I've contributed since and it gets just a touch frustrating when you have said a couple of times that nobody has replied to the question when I and others are trying to help. It's not really a simple yes or no anyway to whether someone will pay a premium on CD, it depends on the item. One person's must have Disco or Gospel album is not attractive to the mid-60s specialist who wants Deep or Northern Soul only. The value also reflects how much of an artist been reissued and do they have collector or dancefloor interest. To be more specific for you, for the right CD I and others already pay a premium, it depends on the item. I'm less fussed about Funk so wouldn't pay a premium for that, but for CDs more in my area of interest - sure, so long as it feels sensible. I'll pay up to about £15 for the right release, but after that I start to question it a lot more if there is only one or two songs on an otherwise poor album. Modern Soul is especially prone to this, with one song often on a pure Disco album that I have little wider interest in. For the 1975 Ronnie McNeir album as an example (or any of the albums mentioned as not on CD yet here and in other threads), I'd pay up to around £20 but haven't bought the Japanese reissue going for £40+ on import as that just doesn't sit well with me. For some rare imports with songs on I cannot get any other way, I'll often end up paying in the £15-£30 range. The reissued Rivage album is available now for £11 on CD, whereas the Spaceark reissues in recent years were £15 from the start. I hope that is helpful.
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Yes enjoying the Don Bryant album immensely.
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I've always enjoyed any of the dance Soul related to spies that I guess played off the popularity of James Bond, Man From Uncle, Mission Impossible, Get Smart, In Like Flint etc. Secret Agents, The Spy, I Spy For The FBI, Sock It To 'Em JB, Come Spy With Me etc. I was also a fan of the Kent Soul Agents compilation. I recall Ace did a CD of Spy related music years ago, but it wasn't just Soul related. After digging it out it was 'Come Spy With Us'. Anyway in passing on ear worms, from Secret Agents to today's..... Karate soul. Jerry O's Karate, The Emperors Karate Boogaloo etc. Karate Booaloo is especially hard to stop hearing those backing singers once in your head. I enjoy all those novelty dance things - Karate, Skate and so on as a bit of innocent fun in our music. The Skate ones were also stompers too.
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I don't recall one, but feel like there is too. The song is now my earworm of the day.
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Yes sad news, a singer who has been appreciated increasingly in Modern Soul over recent decades.
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To keep this thread going I also welcome quality reissues on CD of: Gary Taylor' - G.T. Rockie Robbins - first album Ronnie McNeir - S.T. 1975 Thanks Mark
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Great music across a number of Soulful styles, thank you.
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Yes I have the bootleg ones but I do not know of any official ones done from the masters as you confirm. The Bootleg ones are generally bad in terms of sound quality.
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I don't think we have had any high quality CDs dedicated to Ric Tic or Golden World. The songs are compiled but spread across others. But getting the original singles from the masters compiled properly on CD would be welcome. There are the usual less-than-official compilations with the usual murky quality, but they do not do the job.
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Indeed. Those first two Luther albums are a must. Like some of those Aretha albums, I think I read it was the artist themselves who blocked their reissue. I could be wrong on that. The Four Tops ABC singles have now been issued in a good CD set, so I hope for the albums too soon.
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There were all those Cam-Park CDs. I always felt they sounded a touch muddy and their origins were dubious. I posted the original item here as it seems to be the first CD dedicated to Northern Soul for the label, even though the songs are distributed amongst other CDs and almost now available legally online I think.
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https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/jul/01/martha-reeves-dancing-in-the-street-motown-protest
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You Got The Power - Cameo Parkway Northern Soul CD Cameo Parkway was late to CD but the Northern Soul selections have been trickling onto CD/LP compilation releases legally now for a couple of decades, starting first with the 'Introduction to Northern Soul' boxset I think. Here is the first official CD dedicated entirely to the Northern Soul releases on the label I envisage, I could be wrong. In theory these are out now, but I haven't seen them anywhere and the big A lists them for September. Although I think I've got just about everything there from other compilations, it's still worth a buy for a couple of songs. There are separate Dance Craze and Chubby Checker CDs too. https://www.abkco.com/news-feed/cameo-parkway-compilations/ "You Got The Power: Cameo Parkway Northern Soul 1964 -1967, showcases the numerous Cameo Parkway singles that would go on to become part of the soundtrack of Britain’s Northern Soul lifestyle phenomenon. Northern Soul’s emphasis was on obscure yet danceable records, a number of which became the focus of a cult-like worship years after they were first issued, partially due to the rarity of the 45s on vinyl. Recordings by Frankie Beverly & The Butlers, Bunny Sigler, The Orlons, Evie Sands, Candy and the Kisses, Christine Cooper and Eddie Holman are highlights of the 20-track collection." You Got The Power: Cameo Parkway Northern Soul 1964-1967 You Got The Power – The Four Exceptions Because Of My Heart – Frankie Beverly & The Butlers (Whoa, Whoa) I Love Him So – Nikki Blu Girl Don’t Make Me Wait – Bunny Sigler It’s Rough Out There – Jerry Jackson Envy (In My Eyes) – The Orlons Picture Me Gone – Evie Sands Country Girl – Vickie Baines Night Owl – Bobby Paris Village Of Tears – Ben Zine You Just Don’t Know (What You Do To Me) – Chubby Checker The 81 – Candy And The Kisses Shake And Shingaling (Pt. 1) – Gene Waiters S.O.S. (Heart In Distress) – Christine Cooper Eddie’s My Name – Eddie Holman Pass Me By – Hattie Winston The Grass (Will Sing For You) – Lonnie Youngblood (Your Love Was Just A) False Alarm – Tari Stevens Who Do You Think You Are – The Soul City You Didn’t Say A Word – Yvonne Baker
