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Got to be a little opportunity there for selling photcopies or scans of original labels so that you can cover up all those pressings you bought in the 70's - I used to put plain white emi-disc type labels over mine rather than looking at OOP labels. No comments please about the morals of doing it, if you are up front about it no problem

Isn't it about sharing - Pete S posted an mp3 in the Marvin Gaye link today so not exactly hard to get

I have the vinyl album and have transferred it onto cd, You are very welcome to have a copy in return for a blank cd - just pm me- It usually goes on Vinyl for about £50 on e-bay and comes up quite a lot so worth adding to your favourite searches. Kev

I have Ain't no Mountain and Tell me it's just a rumour, but never heard Do I love you. I can send mp3's - I can take a little credit for the Ain't no mountain inst as I sent it to Richard Searling and he started playing it. It is on a Karaoke cd and is mistitled as Just my Imagination by the Temptations, but you have to get the right one as there is a genuine Temptations track on a different cd called Stop in the name of love.The one to get is called ABC and has the Jackson 5 on the cover There is a karaoke box set limited edition of 6 cd's for about £30 on Motown, which has tons of instrumentals on it including Ain't too proud to beg, This old heart of mine, 25 miles, Ask the lonely, What becomes of the broken hearted, what does it take, Baby I'm for real Shake me wake me. I got mine on Amazon. It also has the added bonus of the same track with the vocals split with the inst so you can turn the balance knob and get just the vocals or just the inst. Richard Searling often does this and makes the track half vocal and half inst. The best track to do it on is Shake me Wake me - to hear Levi's vocals and the breathing without any backing is just awesome. "Tell me it's just a rumour" is on "a cellar full of Motown" Vol1 . I also have instrumentals of "I'll always love you" and "Love is like an itching" but don't know where they originated. Hope that is useful Kev

Hi Pete, I've been buying stuff from you for years and I don't know why people have to reserve things. You either want it or you don't. You have my card details and you charge me, straightforward. I don't mind paying by CC because you always enclose the slip and it never has the card number displayed so it is totally secure. If people haven't got the money to buy it they shouldn't contact you. If they prefer to pay by cheque then give them 3 or 4 days otherwise it goes to the next person who asked for it. Kev My only complaint is the self adhesive glue on those mailers you use is a b*****d to get open and you can never re-use them - I end up tearing them to shreds.

Found it - In Bill Dahl's book "Motown the golden years" he says that Simpson anonymously filled in for Tammi so skilfully that no one was the wiser on hits "What you gave me" and posthumously on "The Onion Song" Happy now !

Thanks again, She does a brilliant job of it and I'm sure if it had been kept a secret we would have been none the wiser. Kev

Thanks Tone, You put that with such authority - is it documented somewhere? Kev

On the current thread of Marvin Gaye it reminded me of the story that when Tammi Terrell was too ill to finsh the MG & TT "Easy" album Valerie Simpson apparantley finished off the vocals. I have tried to see if I can spot which tracks she might be singing on but can't. Is it a myth or can someone identify which tracks they think Valerie is singing on.

I think you are right, He always wanted to be a crooner and I have to confess that "Try it Baby" is a particular favourite of mine for that style of record, not his best but a firm favourite. "I heard it through the grapevine" had the biggest impact on me as I had just started to buy soul music and I remember leaving the arm up on the record player to that one. Also "wherever I lay my hat". Most of his early stuff didn't get to me until I started collecting and looking back at his career. Having said all that I kind of stopped listening to him after Trouble Man and totally hated his duet album with Diana Ross. It is a problem I have, that I go off people when they get mass appeal and you hear their stuff on the radio all the time.

Great Debate, I used to be a club dj in the 70's playing predominantly funk and still have quite a lot of stuff . At the same time I was going to Wigan and the stuff I would listen to would be northern or deep soul. There are some really fantastic funky tracks like the "Dramatics - Get Up, Get Down" which I used to hear on AFN, Jackson Sisters - "I believe in miracles", Lynn Collins - "Think", which is awsome,Creative Source - "Who is she", but there are some real repetitive things out there like James Brown's 70's stuff in particular ( I know he did ballads etc, but the bulk of his stuff was dance with a similar riff). Remember him accusing David Bowie of ripping him off when he did "Fame" so he brought out "Hot" using the identical riff and said sue me. It is generally repetitive, but certain Northern tracks turn me right off for their repetition, eg.Just Brothers - Sliced Tomatoes (should be called "Sliced Wrists") Tried to think of more but couldn't. Jazz Funk however is a much better option with tons of accomplished musicians all playing on each other's albums and some fantastic vocalists, tons of stuff that I would call the Northern Soul of the 21st century

I bought a load of albums(all dj copies) from a german guy who claimed they came from AFN - got some crackers like Anthony White, Willie Hutch's rca stuff, tons of Philly stuff I know BBC Radio merseyside didn't keep an extensive library before the 70's and they had to requisition them from London and they would take 4/5 days to arrive. it would list the dates requisitioned and by whom.

I have an mp3 file of it which I can post up when I get home if you haven't heard it. Is a great track but don't think it has been played much - wouldn't mind a copy myself, I don't think it is expensive - YET!!

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Sorry, could be anyone, sounds like a million other things that could be anyone One of those "you had to be there" moments I'm afraid

Cheers mate, any details on the Betty Everett labels

Did the Gloria Lynne Track "I gotta tell somebody" that is on her album "Happy & in love" ever come out as a 45 and did anyone else cover it.

Whilst reading Soul-Hull's post on distinctive voices I thought of Al Green and then I thought - Corey Glover So who are those artists that sound the same and had you confused. These are some of mine Lou Rawls (early stuff) and Ernie Andrews Al Green - Sidney Joe Qualls on Run to me Marvin Gaye & J J Barnes Barry White & The Boogie Man Orchestra Deon Jackson singing "someday the sun will shine" sounds like Bobby Vee ZZ Hill and Johnnie Taylor

Nancy Wilson - Don't let me be lonely tonight - James taylor record

Cissy is Whitney's mum and Dionne and Dee Dee Warwick are Whitney's cousins Cissy's birth name is Emily Drinkard Jean Terrell of the Supremes is the sister of heavyweight boxer Ernie Terrell There are some more that escape me at the moment

I sold a mint copy of Patrice Holloway -"Love and Desire" issue copy on UK Capitol in 76 for £40 and bought it again on a UK demo for £200 last year so not that much of an investment if I'd kept it. I would have made more if I had stuck it in the building society for 30 yrs.................

I don't think these two can rival them for vocal strength but they were pretty instrumental in testing out vocals on tons of motown records before they were assigned to particular artists as well as backing singers and even had a couple of their own releases on VIP. Helen & Kay Lewis - The Lewis Sisters Also prolific songwriters - "Just walk in my shoes" 18_Don_t_Make_Me_Live_Without_Your_Love_The_Lewis_Sisters.mp3

I may have missed it but was this ever played anywhere - It comes off their "Easy" album which has California Soul on it. It has the same lyrics and tune(but not the same backing track) as "Your love can save me" by The Marvelettes but obviously has a slight change where they sing "only your love can save this poor heart of mine" Funny how you can have records in your collection that you don't discover for thirty odd years. Even dancing to the Marvelettes at Wigan in the 70's I never made the connection between the two tracks. Marvin & Tammi - This poor heart of mine 04_This_Poor_Heart_of_Mine_Marvin_Gaye___Tammi_Terrell.mp3

Supremes - Mother Dear - This has everything - great vocals, sax all the way through in the same vein as "He's all I got" Smokey Robinson - Can you love a poor boy - not a dancer but Smokey at his best 03_Mother_Dear_The_Supremes.mp3 18_Can_You_Love_a_Poor_Boy_Smokey_Robinson___the_Miracles.mp3

two more Temptations - save my love for a rainy day from the With a lot o soul album - Always liked the Van Dykes but this is the original and far and away much more polished IMHO Smokey Robinson & Miracles - My baby changes like the weather - taken from Going to a Go Go Album - great intro 06_Save_My_Love_for_a_Rainy_Day_The_Temptations.mp3 10_My_Baby_Changes_Like_the_Weather_Smokey_Robinson___the_Miracles.mp3