Mick Holdsworth

Yes, I just wanted to clarify that the pitch of the vocal AND the backing are raised together, IDENTICALLY. Is is easy to notice a vocal that has been changed, but not so noticable with music. In this case the vocal "sounds" different (that's because it is), wheras the music may "sound" untouched (but in reality, it is different, just as different as the vocal). To demonstrate the differences in the music, here is a short clip of the two intros, First part is the intro from the Cindy thing, followed buy the same intro by Tony. Ends of the Earth intros only.wav

Both the vocal AND the backing have had their PITCH raised identically, and in each case their TEMPO remains the same or similar. In other words the track was processed as one "noise". If the vocal was processed seperately, leaving the music untouched, then it would be horribly off key. Since this was done there has been separation programs available to adjust a vocal track independently of music, and is used if the singer is off key. To make a male sound female whilst leaving the music untouched (eg. creating a duet) is also something that now available, but at the moment has a very small range. It's called Form or Formant adjustment.

Yes, this came up about ten years ago, and it was simply Tony Middleton with a pitch shift. Same or similar tempo but the pitch raised dramatically, presumably to sound like a female, athough I'm not sure of the species. I don't know who or where is was pressed up, but they were for sale on Juno, and may still be.

Such awful news, so saddening. Rest in peace, Ted.

Marc Collins show - link is on page 2 of this thread Eddie.

I understand he is Moroccan.

That's the one, I remember you posting it here years ago, I just got the size wrong. I see it is uncredited too, something else I remembered incorrectly.

Absolutely fine, no offence taken.

That image and website is mine, and I did sell it onto Carl W. I am from the West Midlands (Wolves), but it was just a simple sale. The "indiscretion" and story that follows is not me though. I do think I know who you are referring to, but I won't name him as it he has nothing to do with this record. Cheers Mick PS There is also an 8 inch acetate labelled much as my own was, also credited to JBW and DWBHNM. Think it belonged, or belongs to Andy Rix. Not sure if it's single sided.

Oh Dear, that's sad news, and a complete shock, as I was only talking with him, in a message about two weeks ago.

I wonder if anyone knows if North Broad St. Records are experiencing any problems with orders. I have an outstanding order with them from the end of the year and nothing has arrived. There is no response to emails, or the contact form on their website. It may be nothing and they are busy just getting on with it as fast as they can, but lack of communication is always a bit unnerving. Thanks Mick UPDATE - I'm now in direct contact so I'll lock this post off. Cheers everyone.

I also bought three on 28th December and as of this morning the order is unprocessed, presumably John and staff have had a long break. Probably get dealt with Monday onwards.

Yes, the message varies. I've just had one saying unable to verify at the moment, try again tomorrow. For this one, it was a retun to Talk Talk and they sent me a pre paid sticker , and a link to book a collection. When I tried to enter the number I got a similar error message, so on Wednesday I went to the PO and they beeped it fine. I asked them if number was okay, mentioning problems with booking it online, and they sait the munber is fine, even comfirmed the open "OT" rather than "0T" (It has to be two letters, then nine numbers then two more fimal letters. Thanks for your help

Thanks for that, that is the UK RM page I was getting until a couple of days ago. Just tried it again and even though It's the same error, I hit the red button a couple of times and hey presto, it worked, so thank you for that.

Yep, that's what I get too, for both. Think the problem is the RM site itself rather than the numbers. (As I said before the LV .. number did show up, as "In Transit" up till 2 days ago, so it must be on the system.

Thanks for that. I think the US one is the same info on the USPS site, and the ParcelApp one doesn't recognize the number. Running the US number through ParcelApp it also gives the Full USPS info, but can't pick up the number in the UK I think the problem is with the Royal Mail site.

I'm looking for a bit of help please. Is anyone is having trouble with the Royal Mail tracking page ? Maybe it's me, but these two are giving me a headache, and I wonder if anyone can check them out for me. The first one is a US incoming parcel. It shows on USPS site okay, and it DID show on the UK RM site, but it was hit and miss, up till a couple of days ago, and now it won't work atall. https://www.royalmail.com/track-your-item#/tracking-results/LV672970434US The second one is a UK Parcel I sent out (to Talk Talk) using a pre paid sticker couple of days ago (Accepted at PO no problem). https://www.royalmail.com/track-your-item#/tracking-results/OT242490028GB In each case I the numbers turn to red and I get an error message. "Sorry, there was a problem, please try again". So if anyone can test them and let me know what you get, that would be great. Thanks Mick

The clunk can be heard on the UK Grapevine release too, as it was mastered from a La Beat copy. I think the clearer Palmer press only turned up over here just after the UK Grapevine was released in 1980.

If the rumour is right, it may explain why a version without her lead vocal was put out on the B side of an unrelated track.

Have to say I never knew that their name "The MGs" came from our British Leyland car of the day.

Doll Face - Betty Ann

Glad you're on the mend, and I wish you the best.

One of their LP tracks I quite like is "My Heart Stood Still". Probably needs cranking down a bit. (also on a US EP)

Just as a matter of interest, was it "Funny" that becket was asking about, as that is the track in the mixcloud link. If he meant "Found Love In My Own Back Yard", then is that clip also in the link, (I haven't been though the whole show). "Funny" is new to me, and I love it. I'd love to hear the other side.

Cilla Black - You're My World - Parlophone was also pressed up by Polydor. As with above, EMI supplied labels, but immediately noticable by the three pronged middle. I only saw it once about 15 years ago.