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yes, the gamble press is the same recording but a second label. the title I've seen most on this label is the mellow moods (great female sweet soul)

in my experience, this has been the most common title on the label that I've seen

if I ever visit the UK will he let me see his collection? it sounds incredible (I don't collect cigars though but that is cool).

which post above is jealous? i'm not seeing it. instead I'm seeing responses to what steve g correctly describes as "a meaningless thread." There are some qualities which I think describe the attitude of a "serious" collector but naming a specific person is impossible and pointless. Who determines the criteria for "best"? That said, that 82000 piece collection, if it really exists as described, blows my mind.

no, long 45s aren't good. they are pressed at a low volume and sound bad. Any marks / wear makes them unplayable as instead of light crackle it will be crackle that overwhelms the music. Long LPs suck too. the other reason the a-side is short is because it's a radio edit. they would not play a 7 minute long song on r&b radio

aren't there a zillion records like this? I think it just has to do with the song being too long for a side.

i knew they were from louisville but didn't know about the other connections, crazy. thanks for the info.

you should 100% put in the dispute before the 45th day. Just say the package did not arrive. At that point paypal is not taking any action, it just initiates communication between you and the seller. It buys you more time. Paypal will only start to take action (probably giving your money back) after you escalate the dispute to a claim. If you're currently communicating with the seller on good terms you can even tell them you're putting in a paypal dispute just so you don't miss the window but don't plan to escalate it to a claim. Maybe on the 44th day put in the dispute.

I had a package take 8 or 9 weeks to get to germany. the tracking made it look like it never left chicago. i assumed it was lost somewhere here. but it somehow just showed up.

edit: it appears you just answered some of my questions

maybe I'm confused now. I think i sent you (ady) an email with info when I had the two copies in my hand saying what the records said on each side, whatever I said there is more accurate. Thanks.

it might turn up, but I never look at pop records on ebay or in real life. I think either the curtom or wand press of the something new says 'featuring terry crispino' on one side but it's not on both records.

I have a clean sherrys on hot but my scanner is broken and puts a blue line through everything (my old scanner broke the same way, I don't know if you remember I was actually talking to you about it at the time). If you want a scan with a blue line that you could maybe fix in photoshop, I could do that.

also the few other times I've seen the curtom record it was a promo.

I have it on Wand (didn't at the time of the earlier post) and Curtom. Both are promos on styrene. The same pressing plates weren't used but they are the same recordings.

true, I think a better thread title that conveys what the OP was saying was "most complete collection". That still is subjective but not as subjective. I think the most disciplined collectors will pick one or a few very specific things to have a laser focus on such that they get really deep into something rather than sort of knowledgeable about many things. There are enough records in almost any subgenre of R&B that you can collect pretty much forever. If you just randomly buy all types of records you usually end up relying on other people to tell you what to buy and put on your want list. When people ask me why I don't buy doowop, gospel, etc. I tell them that I like a lot of different kinds of music but am perfectly happy to listen to mp3s of that music -- for me collecting is a different act than just "buying music you like".

oosh, i had a copy i could have sold / traded

You mean "Capito" not "Captivo" (probably a typo). There is no connection to the Valentine group. The Capito group is from Detroit. The Valentine group is from Philadelphia. They said that Valentine was their manager's label so I doubt anything else would be on it. Actually here is the listing based on info from them. I don't have a scan or photo of the second record, the info came over the phone. Valentine 10001 Why I Love You / Gotta Get Out (71) 4690 You're Only Fooling Yourself / You're Not The Same (76)

the person with the definitive 1950s Chicago R&B collection is Robert Stallworth.

i can record it for you if you need a recording... random info: mary mundy produced that killer elements 45 on big street

second release on the same label but like 5 years later or something like that. They had the titles, I have it somewhere in my email.

I'm actually surprised at this because the a-side "It's too late for love" (one of the all-time great sweet soul 45s) was the hit side. Maybe locally it got flipped over (this happened with some records in Chicago). "Somebody please" charted nationally on the R&B charts.

I vaguely remember something else on the label but I'm not sure. But that's not the only record that got released locally before ix chains -- the grand jury and crystal image were both on local labels first.

This is more R&B than soul (it almost has a rockabilly beat), you could specifically ask people like Greg Belson or Matt Weingarden who are on here.

I had to google that name to know what you were talking about. See, just now I learned something.