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this was always sort of around (not ultra-common but came up once in a while) then people on here started hyping it up about a year ago like it was some mega rarity

who would that much for this common record that was a hit? I can go to gemm right now and even find a UK seller that has it for $5, this should be like a $1 record.

i've seen this twice on ebay, once it went for $500 other time it went for $250 (I was the second bidder the other time), doesn't turn up, maybe that is a realistic set sale price given that people's set sale prices here are at least about double ebay and this is one that doesn't come up for sale

Pete S put me in touch with Kenney Harrison of the Promatics, they were a totally different group, he's pretty cool, they were also from the bay area and sang backup on a few other tracks including Lonnie Hewitt "Gotta keep my bluff in" and Marvin Holmes and Justice on Brown Door.

dig deeper's doing their live show in brooklyn on the 30th of this month, it's gonna be sick, i'm flying out there to see it, anyone in the states should definitely go.

do you listen to urban radio? people do remixes of tracks all the time where they pretty much redo the whole song with a different artist, it's almost like the same thing.

i seriously doubt it. i don't know the record but more likely a reference to Jackson, MS

that's not cheap for a trashed copy relative to the mint copies that sold

not that rare, i'm surprised that you're surprised. i think the story was it was originally issued with dog eat dog as the intended a-side, it became the hit, then they reissued it with part 2.

I don't think it's the fuller brothers pretending to be different people, it's producer ron carson reusing the same backing track on different artists. love and brotherhood were a real group, i have a photo of them, and they're not the fuller brothers as far as I know (although I guess I never checked against a photo of the fuller brothers to see if they looked the same).

it's clearly a songwriter's demo, not intended for radio play (made so the person could shop around a song), which is why it comes with sheet music, and why the person can't sing very well.

Hi. Today on my radio show I interviewed Benjio Caffee, member of the Satagans and Solid Gold. Benjio was originally from Birmingham, AL and was inspired to get into music by his neighbors Eddie Kendricks and Paul Williams. He joined the Air Force and while in the service he formed a group called the Cameos, performing in Berkeley, CA and in Alaska. Benjio moved to Chicago in 1961. Throughout the 60s, Benjio performed in nightclubs in Chicago, performing in Red Saunders' review at different clubs throughout the city. Toward the end of the 60s, Benjio began writing songs for producers Leo Austell and Hillary Johnson (for example, writing for Betty Everett, including "Take Me", the B-side to her hit "There'll come a time"). In the mid-60s, Benjio did a show with the Sheppards and made friends with the group, becoming especially good friends with their guitarist Kermit Chandler. After the group broke up, Benjio started singing and writing songs with Kermit and they formed a vocal group called the Satagans. They recruited a third member, Willie Logan; Benjio knew Willie's sister and Willie had previously sang with the Doowop group the Equallos (who had also cut a soul record as the Plaids). The Satagans were initially produced by Len Bowden, who produced a 3-song demo recorded at RCA studios. The recordings had a unique, psychedelic sound -- especially due to the Pharoahs' backing (with Charles Handy on flute and Master Gibson on congas) and Kermit Chandler's guitar work. Kermit's gravelly lead vocals added to the psychedelic feel of the recording. A few copies of the tracks were pressed on a 10" acetate with the intention of shopping the recordings around to different labels. Willie Dixon immediately picked up the record for release on his Yambo record label. After signing with Dixon, Chandler became very ill and died. The group replaced Chandler with James "Brother" Isaac of the Sheppards and re-recorded the vocals with Isaac on lead. Dixon released "Smokin" / "Lovers to friends" on Yambo and "Smokin" got radio play in Chicago. Unfortunately, the group never really came together as a performing group and soon drifted apart. In the late-70s, Benjio formed a new group called Solid Gold with his wife Lucy singing lead and a couple of other male backing singers. Lucy had previously sang live for several years with Donny Hathaway as "June" as June Conquest's replacement in "June and Donnie". Solid Gold released on record -- "Don't you know" / "The Magic" -- on Fortress, a tiny Kankakee, IL record label in the late 70s. Although the record was a nice ballad and even got picked up by the national label AVI, it received little play. The group almost signed to RCA but failed due to management problems and soon broke up, although they have since recorded a few more times. Benjio has continued to be active in producing music since the 70s. You can check out the interview at the bottom of my interview page at: https://www.sittinginthepark.com/interviews.html thanks, Bob

i think it's the only record by a "tojo" but maybe the artist released other records under another identity, it would be nice if "dj beans" revealed the artists real identity.

frankly, vietnam and protest related songs are two separate things. most vietnam songs are not protest songs, a couple (the charades' and jimmy holiday's tracks) are even pro-vietnam, but most are just love songs about lost loves as vietnam was just the context for people's lives for 10 years and love songs were the convention of the genre. vietnam became a backdrop for the songs. protest songs were a separate genre entirely. the original poster didn't really make it clear what the phd student's actual thesis was or what types of songs he/she was looking for. i hope it's something coherent.

I think it's the change of pace

also, there are 2 bobby o'browns on single B (or at least 2, I have 2 on my shelf), 111 and 113, you want the 111#, which I would say should be $50-$100 set sale and less on ebay

shouldn't be too hard, don't let someone rip you off on this

i could probably do at least two more full show of different vietnam songs but the quality would suffer or they would be more deep-soul focused which is less in the theme of my show. as for socially conscious songs, i do one every mlk day, you could do hundreds of hours of songs of those, it's a genre in of itself, i don't see a point listing them unless it's a thread listing maybe the most "important" ones like curtis mayfield's "move on up", marvin gaye's "what's going on", isley brothers "fight the power", etc.

I think that is the one of the ones that doesn't really work well on 45s though.

leo austell (now deceased) owned both the renee and twin stacks labels

there was already a thread on this record a while back, someone posted another label it was on, it was very colorful. john, you missed a micron copy very cheap on ebay a few days ago, like $50

i *HATE* polished records, one of my number one pet peeves

thanks a lot. I will try it if my first option (and I guess dthedrug's option of I think pouring boiling water over the record????) falls through. Thanks a lot.

very rare chicago record

thanks a lot for the holes. The variations has to be a mistake though, that is the bay area group on samaki that didn't record until the late 70s and that is their late 70s cut?