Everyone seems to be missing the point on this. Whether the Four Vandals was, a real record, singer, (Steve Bernstein) or real musicians were used is not the issue. Whether people liked, disliked or knew all along that it was not legit is also of no consequence, I was not my intention to re open this well worn topic I used the FVs as an example of how the scene was and, can be manipulated. As pointed by Geeselad, Richard Searling played this on his Sunday radio show additionally a well known Dj parted with a large sum of cash to own the record. The fact that people were mis led is undeniable. The AIGs being posted at the moment are pretty crude,although some are some better than others. They will inevitibly get much, much better, in the hands of a skilled sound engineer,and introduction of orchestral backing etc they will be indistinguishable from the real thing. Cut to vinyl, and placed into a box at a US record fair (as an example) in very similar to the way that the FVs was fed into the scene, hey presto, Sallys your uncle & Bobs your Aunt. If you tell me I've got that the wrong way round see the AIG video, its the one after the dog flying a plane ! Impossible ?, they won't fool me ? I'd like to think that I'm in that camp,but, If Elton John and Paul Mcartney think AI might be problamatic for the wider music scene, then I'll air on the side of caution.