Going through more stuff and I found this

Edward Hamilton And The Natural Looks-My darling baby/Yes I can-Mary Jane-P1010

JM lists 1010 as 'Willing mind' on the b side

So any one got a full definative listing for the man ??????

Edited May 8, 200916 yr by Dave Thorley

"Yes I can" on mine too. Probably error in John's listing?

"Yes I can" on mine too. Probably error in John's listing?

Afternoon Rod, as you say must be a mistake. Still would love to see a full listing.

How tricks with you

Dave

Afternoon Rod, as you say must be a mistake. Still would love to see a full listing.

How tricks with you

Dave

Well the sawing a woman in half went horribly wrong but it was the wife so it wasn't the end of the world. Well, for her, it was.

Here's a link to Dave Flynn's listing

https://capitolsoulclub.homestead.com/Detro...lsMARYJANE.html

Obviously in regard to 1003,1009 and 1010 that throws up some talking points for those of us who don't have to go out shopping immediately.

ROD

"Yes I can" on mine too. Probably error in John's listing?

no, it got released with two flips, here's the one john has:

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=220405869794

Carrie 1516 - "My one possession/Somebody tell me"

Carrie 6502 - "I'm gonna love you/Call me"

Carrie 009 - "Call me/I'm gonna love you"

Carrie 015 -"Today I kissed my new love/Let me try"

Carrie 0039 "I love you so/Now you have to cry alone"

Jameco 2008 -"I'm gonna love you/Call me"

Lanrod 1605 - "I love you so/Now you have to cry alone"

Lanrod 1605 - "Temptation of love/Now you have to cry alone"

Lanrod 1606 - "You upset me baby/(Please) take a chance on me"

Well the sawing a woman in half went horribly wrong but it was the wife so it wasn't the end of the world. Well, for her, it was.

Here's a link to Dave Flynn's listing

https://capitolsoulclub.homestead.com/Detro...lsMARYJANE.html

Obviously in regard to 1003,1009 and 1010 that throws up some talking points for those of us who don't have to go out shopping immediately.

ROD

So You have to go out shopping, see that's what happen when you try the old saw trick, otherwise you could of sent her out.

Does look like they thought 'My darling baby' had a chance.

Hope she will be well enough to do the cleaning at the weekend.

Dave

Going through more stuff and I found this

Edward Hamilton And The Natural Looks-My darling baby/Yes I can-Mary Jane-P1010

JM lists 1010 as 'Willing mind' on the b side

So any one got a full definative listing for the man ??????

Now this is interesting Dave, Here's a scan of the B side of my Edward Hamilton And The Natural Looks-My darling baby -Mary Jane-P1010

It's "Willing Mind" but look at the number. It's P1111

A side is definately P1010 so some mistake at plant perhaps. Give me a few minutes to go and play it and I'll let you know what the song is.

Cheers,

John.

"Yes I can" on mine too. Probably error in John's listing?

Rod,

No mistake I have a copy of Mary Jane 1010 on the shelves at the mo' with "Willing Mind" on the flip this was pressed @ ARCHER. Interestingly the # on the flip "WM" the label # is 1111 and the deadwax matrix reads 1112.

what's the deadwax details on your flipside and label # on the flip label?

On the subject of Edward Hamilton nobody has yet come up with the loan of the BDYWeep, coloured bootleg. So I'll up my offer to £50 credit just to borrow it for documentation.

So if you have a coloured bootleg of "Baby Don't You Weep" could someone mail me a copy.

Edited May 8, 200916 yr by john manship

Now this is interesting Dave, Here's a scan of the B side of my Edward Hamilton And The Natural Looks-My darling baby -Mary Jane-P1010

It's "Willing Mind" but look at the number. It's P1111

A side is definately P1010 so some mistake at plant perhaps. Give me a few minutes to go and play it and I'll let you know what the song is.

Cheers,

John.

No interesting is if you were claiming to have been abducted by aliens.

"Yes I can" is 1009 on other side of "Darling baby" 1010.

With Flynny's listing and input from Jaco and Boba, Dave has now forced a complete re-evaluation of Mary Jane output which will teach him to be more careful in the future.

I didn't know about Arabians [le Mans] on Lanrod either.

ROD

Now this is interesting Dave, Here's a scan of the B side of my Edward Hamilton And The Natural Looks-My darling baby -Mary Jane-P1010

It's "Willing Mind" but look at the number. It's P1111

A side is definately P1010 so some mistake at plant perhaps. Give me a few minutes to go and play it and I'll let you know what the song is.

Cheers,

John.

OK, played it through and the song is definately "Willing Mind".

Checked all my other Mary Jane releases and they are all numbered ok except the B side of "Thank Your Mother" P1007 here's the scan:

Number is P1008!

The plot thickens....... Then I was abducted by aliens.

John.

Edited May 8, 200916 yr by John Al

Rod,

No mistake I have a copy of Mary Jane 1010 on the shelves at the mo' with "Willing Mind" on the flip this was pressed @ ARCHER. Interestingly the # on the flip "WM" the label # is 1111 and the deadwax matrix reads 1112.

what's the deadwax details on your flipside and label # on the flip label?

On the subject of Edward Hamilton nobody has yet come up with the loan of the BDYWeep, coloured bootleg. So I'll up my offer to £50 credit just to borrow it for documentation.

So if you have a coloured bootleg of "Baby Don't You Weep" could someone mail me a copy.

Hi John

Looks like for some of these releases, they gave each side it's own release number. As the disc I have have gives' Yes I can' P1009, while the flip 'My darling baby' is P1010

Lanrod 1606 - "You upset me baby/(Please) take a chance on me"

Hi Jaco, are you sure about this one ? Never seen one, only ever on Le Mans.

Marc

Plus

Arabians "Let Me Try / Today I Kissed My New Love" Staff 1808

and the very uptempo early "Who`s In The Shack" on another blue label which name although I have it at home escapes me at present...anyone ?

The group on Magnificent by the way is a different group.

Marc

Carrie 1516 - "My one possession/Somebody tell me"

Carrie 6502 - "I'm gonna love you/Call me"

Carrie 009 - "Call me/I'm gonna love you"

Carrie 015 -"Today I kissed my new love/Let me try"

Carrie 0039 "I love you so/Now you have to cry alone"

Jameco 2008 -"I'm gonna love you/Call me"

Lanrod 1605 - "I love you so/Now you have to cry alone"

Lanrod 1605 - "Temptation of love/Now you have to cry alone"

Lanrod 1606 - "You upset me baby/(Please) take a chance on me"

today i kissed my new love / let me try......released on staff not carrie

you upset me baby / take a chance on me......released on le mans not lanrod

....talking about simultanously posting

Hi Jaco, are you sure about this one ? Never seen one, only ever on Le Mans.

Marc

Marc,

Per R & B Indies which lists the Le Mans one as The Arabians only.

Also the Staff track per R & B indies is The Arabians only.

Marc,

Per R & B Indies which lists the Le Mans one as The Arabians only.

Also the Staff track per R & B indies is The Arabians only.

yes, both true but obviously both also do feat. Edward H on lead. Same goes for "Who`s In The Shack" which also only credits the Arabians. I fear its a typo with "Please Take A Chance" having been rel. on Lanrod as well. I will ask Bob though...

Rod,

No mistake I have a copy of Mary Jane 1010 on the shelves at the mo' with "Willing Mind" on the flip this was pressed @ ARCHER. Interestingly the # on the flip "WM" the label # is 1111 and the deadwax matrix reads 1112.

what's the deadwax details on your flipside and label # on the flip label?

On the subject of Edward Hamilton nobody has yet come up with the loan of the BDYWeep, coloured bootleg. So I'll up my offer to £50 credit just to borrow it for documentation.

So if you have a coloured bootleg of "Baby Don't You Weep" could someone mail me a copy.

Deadwax details. ARCHER stamp both sides

"Darling.." 1010 "squiggle" 95

"Yes..." 1009XX "squiggle" 95

Cheers

ROD

So You have to go out shopping, see that's what happen when you try the old saw trick, otherwise you could of sent her out.

Does look like they thought 'My darling baby' had a chance.

Hope she will be well enough to do the cleaning at the weekend.

Dave

What you mean your other half

The Arabians on Jam 3738 & Twin Star 1018 is titled "The Shack" b/w "Heaven Sent You". Twin Star is considered the second issue.

Edited May 9, 200916 yr by carl_p

The Arabians on Jam 3738 & Twin Star 1018 is titled "The Shack" b/w "Heaven Sent You". Twin Star is considered the second issue.

Released on the Northern label first, Johnnie Mae Mathews label.

yes, both true but obviously both also do feat. Edward H on lead. Same goes for "Who`s In The Shack" which also only credits the Arabians. I fear its a typo with "Please Take A Chance" having been rel. on Lanrod as well. I will ask Bob though...

All the releases feature Edward Hamilton on lead. For instance the Le Mans release was leased in by the owner of the label, without knowing who was the lead vocalist. Edward states that he wasn't aware of a number of his records coming out like the Le Mans 45, as they were leased by Lou Beatty to make extra money.

Released on the Northern label first, Johnnie Mae Mathews label.

Just to clarify Jam was the Johnnie mae Matthews label it was issued on. It was never on a label called northern.

Going through more stuff and I found this

Edward Hamilton And The Natural Looks-My darling baby/Yes I can-Mary Jane-P1010

JM lists 1010 as 'Willing mind' on the b side

So any one got a full definative listing for the man ??????

There were discographies for Edward Hamilton & The Arabians published in SHADES OF SOUL #13 and DETROIT CITY LIMITS #2.

Regards

Steve

All the releases feature Edward Hamilton on lead. For instance the Le Mans release was leased in by the owner of the label, without knowing who was the lead vocalist. Edward states that he wasn't aware of a number of his records coming out like the Le Mans 45, as they were leased by Lou Beatty to make extra money.

Just to clarify: The Magnificent 45 does feature a different group of the name Arabians. It is not Edward H.

Just to clarify Jam was the Johnnie mae Matthews label it was issued on. It was never on a label called northern.

Edward Hamilton said it was, also saw it on a sales list on that label some time ago.

Edward Hamilton said it was, also saw it on a sales list on that label some time ago.

https://capitolsoulclub.homestead.com/detroitlabelsguide.html

The Arabians is listed on capitolsoulclub as being on jam and northern with the same catalog number. I will agree It's possible but i still have some doubt since i've never seen it nor seen it listed in any other record guides. Anybody actually have or seen a copy on "Northern"??

https://capitolsoulclub.homestead.com/detroitlabelsguide.html

The Arabians is listed on capitolsoulclub as being on jam and northern with the same catalog number. I will agree It's possible but i still have some doubt since i've never seen it nor seen it listed in any other record guides. Anybody actually have or seen a copy on "Northern"??

I'd have to check back to see if i still have Johnny Fingers list when he advertised it for sale some years ago. Also if anyone has Ady Pierce's Detroit label auctions, to check those.

I have it on tape from a friend of mine as being on Northern also, who has done a lot of research on early Detroit recordings. A lot of his label info comes via Richard Pack of Canada, who has extensive label info i've been told.

Martyn

Rod,

No mistake I have a copy of Mary Jane 1010 on the shelves at the mo' with "Willing Mind" on the flip this was pressed @ ARCHER. Interestingly the # on the flip "WM" the label # is 1111 and the deadwax matrix reads 1112.

what's the deadwax details on your flipside and label # on the flip label?

On the subject of Edward Hamilton nobody has yet come up with the loan of the BDYWeep, coloured bootleg. So I'll up my offer to £50 credit just to borrow it for documentation.

So if you have a coloured bootleg of "Baby Don't You Weep" could someone mail me a copy.

Hi john at last tracked down the offending article, spoke to the lad on the phone tonight, he`s gonna send details and scan