Love, like or hate it - "Goodbye Nothin' To Say" by The Javells & Nosmo King will always be around as a toe-tappin' tune!

But does anyone know the story of how this got to be played? See, I've just picked up a demo of "Goodbye" by Nosmo King (pictured below), released July 1974. It's actually the B-side to "Teenage Love". I know that it made the UK Top 30 in November 1974, but did it actually get played out anywhere between this time, or was it just a mock-up reissue for the UK charts?

So, apart from a clever play on words for this guy (No Smoking), does anyone have any info on its origins? Maybe even a value?

Yours,

Nowan King (no relation)

Love, like or hate it - "Goodbye Nothin' To Say" by The Javells & Nosmo King will always be around as a toe-tappin' tune!

But does anyone know the story of how this got to be played? See, I've just picked up a demo of "Goodbye" by Nosmo King (pictured below), released July 1974. It's actually the B-side to "Teenage Love". I know that it made the UK Top 30 in November 1974, but did it actually get played out anywhere between this time, or was it just a mock-up reissue for the UK charts?

So, apart from a clever play on words for this guy (No Smoking), does anyone have any info on its origins? Maybe even a value?

Yours,

Nowan King (no relation)

It was a big big full fuller at Wigan in the summer of 74.

On one of my live tapes (1st Ann) Russ plays it 3 times in one hour.

It was covered up as The Javells at 1st, than reissued on Disco Demand as The Javells.

Some more info here.

https://www.nme.com/artists/javells-and-nosmo-king

Love, like or hate it - "Goodbye Nothin' To Say" by The Javells & Nosmo King will always be around as a toe-tappin' tune!

But does anyone know the story of how this got to be played? See, I've just picked up a demo of "Goodbye" by Nosmo King (pictured below), released July 1974. It's actually the B-side to "Teenage Love". I know that it made the UK Top 30 in November 1974, but did it actually get played out anywhere between this time, or was it just a mock-up reissue for the UK charts?

So, apart from a clever play on words for this guy (No Smoking), does anyone have any info on its origins? Maybe even a value?

Yours,

Nowan King (no relation)

Thanks for the heads-up guys! Interesting to note that Nosmo (aka Stephen Jameson) was a member of The Truth - never knew that until now.

Thanks for the heads-up guys! Interesting to note that Nosmo (aka Stephen Jameson) was a member of The Truth - never knew that until now.

Did'nt Johnathan King have something to do with it ?

All these triple post, Everyone must really love it

Hope this does not come up 3 times !

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Did'nt Johnathan King have something to do with it ?

Don't think he did - think it was Roger Greenway and Roger Cook.

I think Ady C as a acitate with totaly different artist name on it !

Did'nt Johnathan King have something to do with it ?

i thought it was johnathon king under one of his many disgiuses

i thought it was johnathon king under one of his many disgiuses

NO, NO AND THRICE...........NO.

BRI PINCH.

BENTINCK, BACK ROOM, 19TH JUNE.

Jonathon King owned UK records that released Dean Parish,The Devonnes..and l just want to kick his lights out!!

The name " Nosmo King " was used by singer / songwriter Steve Jameson in respect of the release for " Goodbye "

/ " Teenage Love " ( UK PYE 7N 45383 ).

The record was repromoted following its' success on the NS , as " Goodbye , Nothing To Say " - The Javells featuring Nosmo King .......

SJ " borrowed " the name from H. Vernon Watson ( 1886 - 1952 ), a popular English variety artist , who touring the music halls before World War I , but he remained relatively obscure until the 1920s , when he shot to fame as Nosmo King .

Jonathan King had no connection with the record whatsoever .

Steve Jameson is now is a successful comedian , touring under the name of his alter - ego , Sol Bernstein

Mr Jameson is pictured below ( as SB ) , along with a photograph of the initial release , for your consideration .

Malc Burton

Edited June 19, 200915 yr by Malc Burton

Hi Gene, The Guy from Pye records who put this over to Richard at the Casino chatted about this on Richard's radio show some years ago, I have it on tape if you want it, Basically a Wigan Anniversary show.

Anyhow the guy at Pye was fooled into thinking it was a new Northern sound by his co workers at the label, when in fact it was a b side of a Pye Pop single, so he put it over to Wigan, it fooled them, went massive and Nosmo actually went to a nigher to hear it played, he was said to be made up!!!

as to who Nosmo actually was, they never mention that, only that he went to the wigan...

There is allot more but its on the tape.. See you next week..

Mal

Edited June 19, 200915 yr by Mal.C.

Hi Gene, The Guy from Pye records who put this over to Richard at the Casino chatted about this on Richard's radio show some years ago, I have it on tape if you want it, Basically a Wigan Anniversary show.

Anyhow the guy at Pye was fooled into thinking it was a new Northern sound by his co workers at the label, when in fact it was a b side of a Pye Pop single, so he put it over to Wigan, it fooled them, went massive and Nosmo actually went to a nigher to hear it played, he was said to be made up!!!

as to who Nosmo actually was, they never mention that, only that he went to the wigan...

There is allot more but its on the tape.. See you next week..

Mal

As I stated in my post above , rhe name " Nosmo King " was used by singer / songwriter Steve Jameson in respect of the release for " Goodbye " / " Teenage Love " ( UK PYE 7N 45383 ) in 1974 .......

Malc Burton

Edited June 19, 200915 yr by Malc Burton

As I stated in my post above , rhe name " Nosmo King " was used by singer / songwriter Steve Jameson in respect of the release for " Goodbye " / " Teenage Love " ( UK PYE 7N 45383 ) in 1974 .......

Malc Burton

there you go, the true identity Nosmo king... I'll find the tape and get the info for you all, Kev Roberts and Richard interviewed this guy about Pye, and his involvement... good stuff.

mal

Just recently joined and followed up on Nosmo King. Here is the man himself explaining the song...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XALqQM-Xug&list=WL&index=19

I remember seeing the acetate on the decks at the Casino. I will never know why Pye didn't release it as an A side, it might have been a hit even without the NS connection!

No Smoking, thank you

R E Gards

I'm sure he sang it at the 1st anniversary niter '74. 🤔

 

 

quality🙃

You can't but love that can you 🤪

Never guessed Maxine Nightingale was a rip off of this, but now I hear it... think 'Right Back'might have charted in the States as well, gets featured in a fair few Hollywood films...

Nosmo KIng was indeed a stage name of H.Vernon Watson whose act between the Wars involved blacking up and inpersonating black people but I very much doubt he was the reason the name was chosen by Sol Bernstein.

More likely it was a play on theatre signage stating No Smoking. 

 

On 19/06/2009 at 17:41, Mal C said:

Hi Gene, The Guy from Pye records who put this over to Richard at the Casino chatted about this on Richard's radio show some years ago, I have it on tape if you want it, Basically a Wigan Anniversary show.

 

Anyhow the guy at Pye was fooled into thinking it was a new Northern sound by his co workers at the label, when in fact it was a b side of a Pye Pop single, so he put it over to Wigan, it fooled them, went massive and Nosmo actually went to a nigher to hear it played, he was said to be made up!!!

 

as to who Nosmo actually was, they never mention that, only that he went to the wigan...

 

There is allot more but its on the tape.. See you next week..

 

Mal

Dave McAleer was the Pye promotion guy responsible for The Javells and Pye Disco Demand label 

I almost thought that it sounded okay in the music deprived state of being locked up in Borstal, but then I remembered having to explain that northern soul wasn't Nosmo King... and nor was Footsee. They were hard times... but Borstal was a laugh,

Hit on this thread because Matchy gave me a box of crap records that includes two copies of the Javells. Wondered if anyone know why it was released as Goodbye nothin' to say DDS 2003 and Nothin'to say (on both the A and B side) also DDS 2003. While writing this I realised it is just a labelling error... does that mean it's worth more than Frank Wilson? 😉 

I’ve got nothing to say about this tune the less said the better

A side vocal 

B side instrum

No Smoking 😉😆