please can someone sell me this, either the Turbo LP or the 7" reissue thing. Offlist please to l_l_m_w@hotmail.co.uk or PM me.

Cash/trades waiting.

Billy

re-issue is an lp...Japanese P-Vine. Tis on e-bay now and then although missed one not so long ago on a sales list for £50.

hasn't mr D got one Chalks?

If you can settle for a "reissue"/bootleg... why not make one yourself? The tune is included on an official UK CD compilation, get that or ask someone to rip it for you. Then go to www.vinylcarvers.co.uk and get them to cut a one-sided copy for £15. You'll have it within a week.

I know I use them for a lot of unreleased stuff. They're fab and turnover is superb .....but as it ain't unreleased I won't settle until I've got it on P-Vine or Turbo I'm afraid.....

I know I use them for a lot of unreleased stuff. They're fab and turnover is superb .....but as it ain't unreleased I won't settle until I've got it on P-Vine or Turbo I'm afraid.....

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If you did not know already there`s a Version on the Lp of,

"Sweet Memories" as "Robert Tanner" was one of the lead singers of

"The New Sound" group

Dave f............

I know, but he doesn't sing lead on that version, or so I was told. Have you got one Dave?

I know, but he doesn't sing lead on that version, or so I was told. Have you got one Dave?

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Yes Mate but not for sale

Dave f...........

I know, but he doesn't sing lead on that version, or so I was told. Have you got one Dave?

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I think it was "Dawson Smith" who sang lead on "Sweet Memories" on the Lp.

Dave f..........

...but as it ain't unreleased I won't settle until I've got it on P-Vine or Turbo I'm afraid.....

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The P-Vine copies are apparently bootlegs according to those who know. The only original issue (or not, as it was unissued) is the Turbo LP.

The P-Vine copies are apparently bootlegs according to those who know. The only original issue (or not, as it was unissued) is the Turbo LP.

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It was issued on Turbo, but from what I was told they were poor quality so were withdrawn.

hasn't mr D got one Chalks?

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Andy was one of the first to spin this way back.

Andy was one of the first to spin this way back.

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do you think he'd sell it?

Manship had the P-Vine Lp last week for £40 but you're too late Billy it's gone

soulmac.

do you think he'd sell it?

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no

If you did not know already there`s a Version on the Lp of,

"Sweet Memories" as "Robert Tanner" was one of the lead singers of

"The New Sound" group

Your Joking, so thats the same as Sweet Memories - Robert Tanner / Megaton??

Wow..I was looking to hear that track and now I know why..you live and learn..

Have both Billy, but the P-Vine copy is in the Uk, I'm in sydney.. If you can wait till Nov I'd sell it..The Turbo copy I'd never sell..

Mal.C.

Edited July 18, 200520 yr by Mal.C.

Robert Tanner does indeed sing lead on the New Sound LP version of "Sweet Memories", another guy on "Don't Take Your Love" though. P-Vine is a resiiue or boot. I don't think Andy Dyson has the album anymore, seem to recall he said he sold it. May be wrong though. He plays "Don't Take Your Love" from a dubplate or something. The Turbo LP is hardly playable out in aclub anyway due to the extremely high low bass and messed up mastering. Just forget the LP and buy something else is my advice. The New Sound apparently never called themselves the New Sound, that was a name George Kerr came up with.

The group recorded all the songs themselves, gave tapes to George Kerr but no deal was ever struck. Despite of this George Kerr made a deal with All Platinum/Turbo behind their backs and the LP was pressed up, but was never officially released by all accounts. The group never got any money from anyone. George Kerr apparently added his own name to all the songs with BMI too. This is according to an interview Greg Tormo did with someone from the band and that was published in Shades Of Soul. The groups was known as The Jivers at one point.

The track is on a compilation I did called "Flying High- The Modern End Of Northern Soul" after being turned on to it by Mr Fonzues. The version on that CD was cleaned up considerably in the studio from original vinyl (no tapes) and I think its the best quality you'll get. So if the P-Vine is a boot (I dunno) the only legal copies are the Turbo album and the CD.

There was a plan to release it legally on a 45, but the company that issued the CD decided not to because the consultants didn't think it would sell.

Edited July 21, 200520 yr by Simon White

The group recorded all the songs themselves, gave tapes to George Kerr but no deal was ever struck. Despite of this George Kerr made a deal with All Platinum/Turbo behind their backs and the LP was pressed up, but was never officially released by all accounts. The group never got any money from anyone. George Kerr apparently added his own name to all the songs with BMI too. This is according to an interview Greg Tormo did with someone from the band and that was published in Shades Of Soul. The groups was known as The Jivers at one point.

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I bought this album recently and really like it a lot but I have no idea what it is worth... Anyone want to help me? What does this album sell for in the UK?

Worth around £200 on Turbo I reckon.

Edited July 26, 200520 yr by Guest

The track is on a compilation I did called "Flying High- The Modern End Of Northern Soul" after being turned on to it by Mr Fonzues. The version on that CD was cleaned up considerably in the studio from original vinyl (no tapes) and I think its the best quality you'll get. So if the P-Vine is a boot (I dunno) the only legal copies are the Turbo album and the CD.

There was a plan to release it legally on a 45, but the company that issued the CD decided not to because the consultants didn't think it would sell.

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"Mr Fonzeus" got it from me, he recorded my original album.

"Mr Fonzeus" got it from me, he recorded my original album.

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I have a remixed copy of the track on CD, always wondered about cutting it as it sounds better than the LP but somehow didn't think it was right thing to do (perversely I would probably feel alright about it if I had the LP, did that with another LP track, OV Wright, forget the track title, as that needed the bass bringing up, luckily someone else had already done that and lent me his remix). Interesting moral quandry, but think I'll leave it.

Isn't P-Vine a legit Japanese reissue label from the same family as Ace?

"Mr Fonzeus" got it from me, he recorded my original album.

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The one used for the CD came from the P Vine album. I first heard it via Sebastian. There was a plan to reissue it on a 45-they didn't want to but I was going to do it - legally- myself but thefinancial risk is something I didn't want to sustain personally. Anyone got a spare grand ?

Robert Tanner does indeed sing lead on the New Sound LP version of "Sweet Memories", another guy on "Don't Take Your Love" though. P-Vine is a resiiue or boot. I don't think Andy Dyson has the album anymore, seem to recall he said he sold it. May be wrong though. He plays "Don't Take Your Love" from a dubplate or something. The Turbo LP is hardly playable out in aclub anyway due to the extremely high low bass and messed up mastering. Just forget the LP and buy something else is my advice. The New Sound apparently never called themselves the New Sound, that was a name George Kerr came up with.

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when i first played the " don't " track some 20 years ago it was of a 7" dub for 2 reasons firstly the sound quality and 2 i don't play albums ,i still got the turbo lp and some p vines and the dub i got cut at the time, covered it up as darrell banks at the time dearlove,browny jan barker,goucher none of the premier knowledges on soul music had a clue what it was , infact i put them out of their misery on the night if me memory serves me right - have played it on and off ever since. still sounds as fresh and truly premier division to this day in my unproffesional opinion....

when i first played the " don't " track some 20 years ago it was of a 7" dub for 2 reasons firstly the sound quality and 2 i don't play albums ,i still got the turbo lp and some p vines and the dub i got cut at the time, covered it up as darrell banks at the time dearlove,browny jan barker,goucher none of the premier knowledges on soul music had a clue what it was , infact i put them out of their misery on the night if me memory serves me right - have played it on and off ever since. still  sounds as fresh and truly premier division to this day in my unproffesional opinion....

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Hi Andy,

Andy Mann here mate, i remember you playing this at the hoist suite in doncaster, back in the day early 90's, remember thinking bloody hell what a voice, great record that has never really took off,apart from a few little dos hear and there, going back to those short lived dos in doncaster they were great and still miss them i know jim does also, used to love travelling up and having a laugh having a few to drink and listening to great soul records, remember you playing herman hitson "its better to have loved" the better side to "yes you did" imho also brownie playing steeplechase first time i ever heard that.

Anyway Andy hope your keeping well mate hope to see you soon somewhere.

best andy

Hi Andy,

Andy Mann here mate, i remember you playing this at the hoist suite in doncaster, back in the day early 90's, remember thinking bloody hell what a voice, great record that has never really took off,apart from a few little dos hear and there, going back to those short lived dos in doncaster they were great and still miss them i know jim does also, used to love travelling up and having a laugh having a few to drink and listening to great soul records, remember you playing herman hitson "its better to have loved" the better side to "yes you did" imho also brownie playing steeplechase first time i ever heard that.

Anyway Andy hope your keeping well mate hope to see you soon somewhere.

best andy

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Andy thanks for that and your support all those years ago - it was always appreciated ,in those days people would travel to the ends of the earth for the right music ,we even had dave godin on dj'ing ! joseph websters down to deep ballads were played , many things that probably haven't been played since !

send my best to jim one of the unsung heroes of soul music - see ya soon andy.

Hi Andy,

Andy Mann here mate, i remember you playing this at the hoist suite in doncaster, back in the day early 90's, remember thinking bloody hell what a voice, great record that has never really took off,apart from a few little dos hear and there, going back to those short lived dos in doncaster they were great and still miss them i know jim does also, used to love travelling up and having a laugh having a few to drink and listening to great soul records, remember you playing herman hitson "its better to have loved" the better side to "yes you did" imho also brownie playing steeplechase first time i ever heard that.

Anyway Andy hope your keeping well mate hope to see you soon somewhere.

best andy

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That Steeplechase is brilliant on your CD Andy , Dean Parrish on lead isn't it ? Best Wishes ,Eddie .

That Steeplechase is brilliant on your CD Andy , Dean Parrish on lead isn't it ? Best Wishes ,Eddie .

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Hi Eddie,

Yes your right Dean Parrish is on lead vocals, had this on a 45 demo on polydor and then got a issue of it and is a slightly different mix to the demo, don't know if it's the same mix to the lp or not, anyway great record.

soulfully yours

andy