A couple of weeks ago I was browsing thru' a chaps box at a well resepected NW Soul nite and happened upon a copy of the aforementioned tune. Price? £300. Now call me Mr. Picky but has the scene totally lost the plot. My first memories of it are of Butch giving it a fair bit of needle time when I started to attend the Oxford Street temple in about 87/88. Picked one up from an infamous dealer from the midlands shortly after for about £20!

Where on earth do otherwise sane people get these prices from?

some would pay the same price for water damaged as you would mint. You see it every day where people pay mint prices for not so mint records

I'd ask and probably get £350 nowadays for a minter

I'm playing an unreleased version with an alternate vocal.

Hi Chalky, meant to ask you this at Prestatyn (i recall you mentioned this to me, prior to playing it in the Old Vic)) is this an alternative acetate cut?

I would have said 600/700 squid Mike, not as good as Delegates in my opinion. Think I paid about £20 fro a Delegates in the 80's. Sold it for not much more few years later. The £350 plus is no one off silly ebay price though, all lately seem to be fetching that or more. Although over priced IMO, it should be £150 tops, it's worth whatever someone is willing to pay, same as any record.

Hi Chalky .....traded my (had 4 copies in my time collecting,so far) copy with John Weston last year for about £150 .....Now silly money.............IMO..BUT it is an oldie and well known by "suddenly have my inheritence to spend" collectors.........ATB Stevie

i think that's a good analysis paul.

there are some records that are rare though and ebay, and the fact that more and more people around the world know about them, and would be looking for them, and they're still not turning up, proves that.

mind you, i agree generally.

You just contridicted Paul's agruement by saying MORE PEPLE around the WORLD, I reckon there are just as many people buying northern soul records now as there was back in the 70's, it's just that it's WORLD wide now, even the yanks are buying them now, when before the were giving them away.

hi all

need to ask the question; what price for a water damaged copy?

russ

lel club, st.ives cambs, friday 7th, 8 - 2am see events

Hi Russ

I sold a water damaged copy just over a year ago for £250.

Karen.

You just contridicted Paul's agruement by saying MORE PEPLE around the WORLD, I reckon there are just as many people buying northern soul records now as there was back in the 70's, it's just that it's WORLD wide now, even the yanks are buying them now, when before the were giving them away.

i don't quite get what you're saying here, sorry?

to clarify what i meant, more people around the world now know what these records are worth (because of the manship book, ebay and just experience - it's not like it was, where you could walk into a store and some gormless redneck would let you rape his cellar for 10c, which did happen, a lot) and thus when something like (say) johnny rodgers on amon goes for $3000 on ebay IF there were loads out there people would be going, Ah! I've got 20 copies of that in the loft! and flogging it. but they aren't which suggests, to me, that it is rare.

i personally don't buy this argument - either - that the rare soul scene collecting-wise is world-wide. yes, there are people abroad buying these records, but statistically they are insignificant. the market is 90% or more in this country and the rise in prices and the rise in value is due to people paying off their mortgages and having disposable income. IMO.

anyway, green wing series two about to start - genius.

I'm playing an unreleased version with an alternate vocal.

Very nice version too Chalk's. Although different vocal to released version of "delegate's" on uplook, got good voice and sound's great. Hope your putting this in your play box when you dj at Horncastle and the next Manhatten, looking forward to dancing to it.

Karen x

i had several water damaged ones, most of which i sold 15-20 years ago for next to nothing

i sold the last one six months ago to a soul sourcer for (i thi nk) 150 quid, which we both thought was fair.

i recently brought a water damaged copy which plays a ex+ for £80 bargain i think

russ

lel club, st.ives cambs, friday 7th 8 - 2am see events

Charles Mintz version - mimimum bid £1000 - Anglo - Rarest version in TB's opinion.

We could go on forever about how much was paid / is worth now - Whats gone is gone - Couldnt bear looking at old record lists now .... Just wish I'd bought a copy of Delegates when it was £40 ( tho I couldnt coz my paper round didnt pay that much! !!!!

But I did get a Big Daddy Rogers for a fiver. .

ATB

Rich

Very nice version too Chalk's. Although different vocal to released version of "delegate's" on uplook, got good voice and sound's great. Hope your putting this in your play box when you dj at Horncastle and the next Manhatten, looking forward to dancing to it.

Karen x

I might put it in the playbox just for you

Talking of "I'll Coming Running Back" how much is the Charles Mintz version on Uplook? Seems to be picking up the odd play or two here and there.

Charles Mintz IMHO kicks the living s**t out of the Delegates of Soul.....................never get bored of hearing this & if your into the price thing, far rarer than the Delegates too. That wah wah geetar does it for me every time...........chunky, funky, but solid proper Northern all the way.........what a tune.

Russ

I'll surprise you James, I don't like it, and the Charles Mintz version is even worse.

Wash your mouth out with soap & water young man...................!

Russ

I am surprised you like it. I'm lucky enough to have one and think it's a blinder, probably the funkiest thing I've ever heard. The Minz copy gives me a headache though, that wah guitar........am I a philistine?

Yes.

Charles Mintz version - mimimum bid £1000 - Anglo - Rarest version in TB's opinion.

We could go on forever about how much was paid / is worth now - Whats gone is gone - Couldnt bear looking at old record lists now .... Just wish I'd bought a copy of Delegates when it was £40 ( tho I couldnt coz my paper round didnt pay that much! !!!!

But I did get a Big Daddy Rogers for a fiver. .

ATB

Rich

BDR was £15 a pop at soul bowl, I had to borrow my wifes credit card to buy 5 copies which I sold for £40 each.....thought I was the bollocks record dealer.............doh .

Russ

I might put it in the playbox just for you

Any chance of a small sound file Chalks .

Russ

Aside, when was BDR first played out? 198*?

Aside, when was BDR first played out? 198*? [/quote

Not really sure Simon, but I bought my copies in the late 80's early 90's. My first recollection of it played out was Ady playing it at the 100 Club mid 90's, but surely had earlier plays ???.

Russ

Not really sure Simon, but I bought my copies in the late 80's early 90's. My first recollection of it played out was Ady playing it at the 100 Club mid 90's, but surely had earlier plays ???.

Russ

Remember BDR being played midish 80's. Certainly late 80's by Mark Bicknell. Got it on tape from that period somewhere.

Edited April 4, 200619 yr by chalky