Just bought this from the states for $8.

Really nice, and I know it is a re-press as the seller told me,

but does anyone know it's history? Original label, ect.? and

maybe your thoughts on the tune itself?

Thank you

Update, just found this on Youtube

Edited November 23, 201212 yr by Steve Luigi

WOW! 86 views and no replies? can anyone help?

it's a press of an acetate-only thing. i think it was pressed in the early 90s by one of the vegas dealers -- at least they were the ones with stock of it. so technically you bought an "original" since it was never originally pressed.

it's a press of an acetate-only thing. i think it was pressed in the early 90s by one of the vegas dealers -- at least they were the ones with stock of it. so technically you bought an "original" since it was never originally pressed.

WOW! Excellent, thank you for the info. What do you think of the track?

I also got this at the same time. Again I know it's a re-press, but what a great tune.

Cost me $14 +P&P

Edited November 24, 201212 yr by Steve Luigi

Nice tune ! Never heard it before

Don't know it.....and I think I quite like it actually (Needed a couple of plays as you do sometimes) Also, if that was 'spliced' in at a nighter I recon it would work really well.

All the best,

Len

the ringleaders was a dave thorley spin. again unreleased acetate...maybe stafford i think.....the mpac copies were pressed up about 10 years ago again with a las vegas connection....some on red vinyl whether they are legit ....well

ringleaders pressed by jo gitanno (spelling) from las vegas, so, about as legit as as an m.p.'s expenses claim

Prefer the other side of the Visions track myself. Nice downtempo.

gary

the ringleaders was a dave thorley spin. again unreleased acetate...maybe stafford i think.....the mpac copies were pressed up about 10 years ago again with a las vegas connection....some on red vinyl whether they are legit ....well

It was Stafford. Win You Over is on the flip, or was that the second acetate? Anyway both played back then.

Butch has the acetates now.

also, the ballad flip of that ringleaders thing is not actually the ringleaders. i don't know who it is though, but it was probably also something unreleased.

also, the ballad flip of that ringleaders thing is not actually the ringleaders. i don't know who it is though, but it was probably also something unreleased.

Bob, ........

I resurrected a 2009 thread on that Ringleaders' song to ask you or anyone in the know if any other Chicago artist/group sang that song, as I remember hearing it a long time ago (probably before the demo record was rediscovered). As far as I remember, I never heard the CD it was introduced on. I think I might have a Chicago record with that song on it. Do you know if anyone else sang that song. The interesting thing about that is that The Ringleaders and Caver wrote their other M-Pac cuts. So, how would that song get to another label? Anyone know who Caver was? Maybe their manager or producer?