Vin Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Hi all ,hope someone can shed a bit of light on this I came across a record on E-Baay..... .Ray Richards..Everywhere I Go / Minneapolis Minnesota on Black Security Label. ....I clicked on the Minneapolis soundfile to hear..Rufus Lumleys voice belting out albeit with some added tambourine and girly vocals .( So technically a different issue).The other side I had never heard before..and I wouldnt give you two bob for it. I contacted the seller asking was this an original issue as I was led to believe that the original version was issued on Afford...he replied that he was not aware of a re-issue and the only two copies he had seen were this one and another owned by a local DJ who plays it, He then mailed me back and told me that his source had informed him that they had figured out that the Afford issues were re-issue bootlegs and it was definitely originally pressed on Security...but still rare as only a limited amount were pressed on Afford and only ten pressed on Security.he said he will post a picture of the Minneapolis side on Sun/Mon..Oh and it NOT cheap im not to hot on putting links on pages so ive typed out the E-baay address RAY RICHARDS minneap'lis minnesota / everywhere i go 7" Northern Soul R&B Rocker #310561056771 His store is Shuga records.. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest john s Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) Well, I would say that Shuga is legendary for enormous prices that bear no relation to the real world, and a lot of his item descriptions are extremely dubious. Personally, I wouldn't take anything he says as accurate unless it can be backed up elsewhere! Also, my copy of the Afford release came from a box that hadn't been touched for at least 15 years - along with Cookin' Bag, Cheryl Johnson, Al Glover, and a lot of other rare and obscure 45s, so if it is a bootleg, it's an old one... Edited January 19, 2013 by john s Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RAY-RICHARDS-minneaplis-minnesota-everywhere-i-go-7-Northern-Soul-R-B-Rocker-/310561056771?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item484ee1a803 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Security is a subsidiary of Holton - the label that I'm Standing came out on, so it's possible that it's kosher. Would need to check the runout for a stamp (the RCA SK4M or similar). Horrible record. IMO. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest john s Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) This is taken from a recent auction for the Afford issue from a seller in Detroit.... "It doesn't get any more mint than this....this Rufus Lumley 45 norhtern soul record was just found sitting inside the actual box from Afford records-which was actually Carla records here in Detroit. I know this because right next to it with an almost identical label was a Carla record box with similar graphics. The box is not included, but is pictured here for reference...it also contains a date of April 5, 1965...either the recording date, or more likely the pressing date. There was also a Factory Inspection Slip in the box, with te date 4/6 and the Press Operator ID and Inspector ID. " "I'm standing" is 1966, isn't it? Which would seem to imply that this pre-dates "I'm standing". No idea if that makes sense about Afford/Carla...? The runouts on my copy of 'Minneap'lis' have: 'Minneap'lis' : (stamped) 45 10441 5 (opposite) I 'Everywhere I go' : (stamped) 45 10442 4 (opposite) I Does that sound right for a Carla 45? Edited January 20, 2013 by john s Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 just don't buy from shuga Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Triode Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Ray Richards and Rufus Lumley are one and the same person. I read he used Ray Richards for his acting career and Rufus Lumley for his recordings I think Ray Richards was his real name. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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