A nice little article/reference to  NYC musician/record producer and PAP record label owner Patrick Adams .

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/aug/13/sources-the-pp-records-soul-and-disco-anthology-review

 

 

tfk 

Edited August 14, 20159 yr by tfk

Thanks. Are you Hogwild on the Guardian website?

Hi Daved 

love the Patrick Adams stuff - loads of goodies amoungst his catalogue .... 

Hogwild Defo not me haha 

Hey whatsya favourite PAP recording ? 

 

Best tfk 

same guardian: decline of night clubs article...some relevance to us toothless hags I think.

dean

Hi Daved 

love the Patrick Adams stuff - loads of goodies amoungst his catalogue .... 

Hogwild Defo not me haha 

Hey whatsya favourite PAP recording ? 

 

Best tfk 

For me probably Florence Miller - The Groove I'm In - P&P and also one of the prettiest labels as well (for that single) and I have always preferred the original P&P version of Four Below Zero - My Baby's Got ESP  

I sold this recently, Kick ass Funkler.. serious Wah Wah action, and all that..

 

the chap that started this thread said PAP, not P&P, are we all speaking about the same label here?

Hi Daved 

love the Patrick Adams stuff - loads of goodies amoungst his catalogue .... 

Hogwild Defo not me haha 

Hey whatsya favourite PAP recording ? 

 

Best tfk 

You mean there's another Guardian reader out there who likes this stuff? 

 

I's have to go for the obvious because it still sounds great to me - Four Below Zero

Hi Daved 

love the Patrick Adams stuff - loads of goodies amoungst his catalogue .... 

Hogwild Defo not me haha 

Hey whatsya favourite PAP recording ? 

 

Best tfk 

Hello Andy….hope alls good for you

I really like all these P&P related tunes: Disco A GoGo !

Four Below Zero "My Babys Got ESP"[ I like both versions but I think I do prefer the Roulette version at a push]

Rainbow Brown "Till you Surrender" [Vanguard]

DayBreak "Everything Man" [P&P]……..  Of Course !

Jessie Gould "Out Of Work" [P&P]

Mary Clarke "Take Me Im Yours" [La Shawn]

Jessie Henderson "I Did It Again" [Land Of Hits]

Queen Yahna  "Aint It Time" [ P&P]

Plus those earlier Patrick Adams related things on Perception/Today, [Debbie Taylor, J.J.Barnes]

All the best, Ivor

 

For me probably Florence Miller - The Groove I'm In - P&P and also one of the prettiest labels as well (for that single) and I have always preferred the original P&P version of Four Below Zero - My Baby's Got ESP  

great record John best A

Hello Andy….hope alls good for you

I really like all these P&P related tunes: Disco A GoGo !

Four Below Zero "My Babys Got ESP"[ I like both versions but I think I do prefer the Roulette version at a push]

Rainbow Brown "Till you Surrender" [Vanguard]

DayBreak "Everything Man" [P&P]……..  Of Course !

Jessie Gould "Out Of Work" [P&P]

Mary Clarke "Take Me Im Yours" [La Shawn]

Jessie Henderson "I Did It Again" [Land Of Hits]

Queen Yahna  "Aint It Time" [ P&P]

Plus those earlier Patrick Adams related things on Perception/Today, [Debbie Taylor, J.J.Barnes]

All the best, Ivor

 

Hello Andy….hope alls good for you

I really like all these P&P related tunes: Disco A GoGo !

Four Below Zero "My Babys Got ESP"[ I like both versions but I think I do prefer the Roulette version at a push]

Rainbow Brown "Till you Surrender" [Vanguard]

DayBreak "Everything Man" [P&P]……..  Of Course !

Jessie Gould "Out Of Work" [P&P]

Mary Clarke "Take Me Im Yours" [La Shawn]

Jessie Henderson "I Did It Again" [Land Of Hits]

Queen Yahna  "Aint It Time" [ P&P]

Plus those earlier Patrick Adams related things on Perception/Today, [Debbie Taylor, J.J.Barnes]

All the best, Ivor

 

hi Ivor hope your well - alls good at this end.... Great list there for sure .

 

regards Andy 

You mean there's another Guardian reader out there who likes this stuff? 

 

I's have to go for the obvious because it still sounds great to me - Four Below Zero

still like 4 below zero ? used to read The Worksop Guardian but it's just The Guardian now   

Edited August 17, 20159 yr by tfk

PAP stands for Patrick Adams Productions and P&P stands for Peter Brown and Patricia Gilyard. It was started way before Patrick Adams came into the picture. Patrick met Peter through Lonnie Johnson of Scorpgemi Records.

Patrick Adams did not do Florence Miller - The Groove I'm In.

Edited August 18, 20159 yr by 1978

A killer and slept on Patrick Adams tune is The Eight Minutes - Looking For A Brand New Game. The flip is good too!

Daybreak - I Need Love is my favourite. One of my favourite records full stop.

 

Peter

A killer and slept on Patrick Adams tune is The Eight Minutes - Looking For A Brand New Game. The flip is good too!

Which shares the intro (at least) with David Martin "You"re Mighty Right"

Love em both

Cheers Paul

 

How about Caress' cover of Pete Warner's I Just Want To Spend My Life With You from their 1977 self titled LP

Daybreak - I Need Love is my favourite. One of my favourite records full stop.

 

Peter

I'm more of an Everything Man type of guy

I'm more of an Everything Man type of guy

Yep that's a great record too Dave but love the flip. It's always been a favourite ever since Dickie was spinning it as Tyrone Edwards.

P

hi 

I sold this recently, Kick ass Funkler.. serious Wah Wah action, and all that..

 

the chap that started this thread said PAP, not P&P, are we all speaking about the same label here?

How about Caress' cover of Pete Warner's I Just Want To Spend My Life With You from their 1977 self titled LP

 

Mmmm not sure what happened there ?

 

How about Caress' cover of Pete Warner's I Just Want To Spend My Life With You from their 1977 self titled LP

 

 

A good shout there Ady of Newark and you took the words right out of my mouth with The Caress album and the group version of Pete Warner ,The Caress also includes another vocal to "Ronnie Love " Almeria biggie - which if my memory serves me both versions were played at that infamous WC allnight discotheque   and talking of "Ronnie Love " on Almeria Records don't forget The Magnetic Touch and The Universal Robot Bands versions too...PA goodies!!!

Edited August 18, 20159 yr by tfk

HURTXCD137 Sources: The P&P Records Soul & Disco Anthology

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CD1                
1. Superstition - Dennis Mobley & Fresh Taste    
    Original Club 12" Mix 07:47
2. (Let’s Just) Stay Away    - Louise Murray    
    Original Club 12" Mix    06:18
3. Spank Me - Bobby Mann    
    Original Club 12" Mix 03:31
4. Pound For Pound - Le’o Roy    
    Original Club 12" Mix    04:26
5. The Guardian Angel Is Watching Over Us - The Golden Flamingo Orchestra ft Margo Williams      
     Original Club 12" Mix    06:51
6. Gotta Get Your Love - Gary Davis    
     Original Kenny Dope Remix 03:41
7. Charlie's Angels - Oral Caress    
     Original Club 12" Edit 07:28
8. Charleston Hopscotch - Cloud One    
     Original Album Version 06:17
9. Get Down - Rudy Stuart 
     Original Club 12" Mix     05:46
10. Robot Dance - Marvin Wright
      Original Club 12" Mix 08:33
11. You've Been Hunchin' All Night (And Can't Get It Right) - Catherine Miller    
      Original Club 12" Mix 04:58
12. Got You Dancing - Karisma ft Jocelyn Brown    
      Original Club 12" Mix 05:17
13. It's So Good To Know - Best Friend Around    
      Original Club 12" Mix 07:00
                
CD2                
1. Atmosphere Strutt - Cloud One    
    Original Club 12" Mix 08:08
2. Got To Have Your Love - Clyde Alexander & Sanction    
    Original Club 12" Mix 09:39
3. Dance, Dance, Dance - Marta Acuna    
    Original Club 12" Mix    06:13
4. Out Of Work - Jesse Gould    
    Original Club 12" Mix 06:26
5. Johnson Jumpin’ - Johnson Products    
    Original Club 12" Mix    06:00
6. 25 Hours - Lanier    
    Original Club 12" Mix    06:00
7. Patti Duke - Cloud One    
    Original Club 12" Mix    05:21
8. Super-Jay Love Theme - Super-Jay    
    Original Club 12" Mix    07:30
9. Rock, Spank, Freak - High Voltage    
    Original Club 12" Mix    10:57
10. Stereo Funk - Darrow & Stereo    
      Original Club 12" Mix 04:50
11. Disco Juice - Cloud One     
      Original Club 12" Mix 06:56
                
CD3                
1. Dance Freak - Chain Reaction    
    Original Club 12" Mix    06:42
2. Magic Carpet    - High Fidelity    
    Original Club 12" Mix    05:38
3. New York's Movin' - Ahzz    
    Original Club 12" Mix    07:52
4. Don't Let My Rainbow Pass Me By - Cloud One ft Margo Williams
    Original Club 12" Mix 04:39
5. I Did It Again - Jesse Henderson    
    Original Club 12" Mix    07:27
6. Take Me I'm Yours - Mary Clark    
    Original Club 12" Mix    06:56
7. Turn Up Your Radio - Kessler    
    Original Club 12" Mix    04:46
8. We Are Making Music - Michael Campbell & High Volt
    Original Club 12" Mix    06:44
9. Flying High Pt 2 - Cloud One    
    Original Club 12" Mix    04:28
10. African Rock - Licky    
      Original Club 12" Mix 06:17
11. Funky Track    - Cloud One
      Original Club 12" Mix 07:05
12. Everything Man - Daybreak    
      Original 7" Single Mix 03:18
13. God Save And Protect All The Children - Margo Williams    
      Original Club 12" Mix 05:57

 

 

HURTXCD138 Sources: The P&P Records Funk & Rap Anthology

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CD1                
1. Ain’t It Time - Queen Yahna
    Original Club 12" Mix    03:53
2. Black Ice - Sons Of Darkness    
    Original 7" Mix 02:25
3. I’ve Been Working - Wild Honey
    Original 7" Mix 03:22
4. Shake Off That Dream - Eddie Owen    
    Original 7" Mix 03:00
5. The Groove I’m In - Florence Miller    
    Original 7" Mix 02:55
6. Here’s To You - Ella Hamilton 
    Original Club 12" Mix    05:24
7. NY Applejack    - Scott Davis & The Movements    
    Original Album Version 07:27
8. Who’s Gonna    - Otis Turner    
    Original Album Version 03:13
9. I’m Coming Back To Life Again - Florence Miller    
    Original 7" Mix 03:00
10. The Greatest Debt To My Mother - Henry Brooks    
       Original 7" Mix 02:12
11. It’s Party Time With Getting In The Groove Pt 2 - Sentimental Souls    
       Original 7" Mix 02:07
12. Long Time Ago (But I Wish Today Was Yesterday) - Smokie Brook    
       Original 7" Mix 02:11
13. Freaktime - Scott Davis & The Movements    
       Original Club 12" Mix 03:51
14. I Believe In Love - Florence Miller    
       Original 7" Mix 02:51
15. Do The Funky Donkey - Otis Turner & The Mighty Kingpins
       Original 7" Mix 03:22
16. Feel The Spirit - Foster Jackson Group
       Original Club 12" Mix 04:01
17. Dance To The Music Freakout - Wayne Forde & Stereo
       Original Club 12" Mix 13:19
18. God’s Greatest Gift To Man Is A Woman - Margie Lomax    
       Original Club 12" Mix 05:10
                
                
CD2                
1. School'n (Put Your Mind To The Message) - Sherod    
     Original Club 12" Mix    07:30
2. Family Rap - Family     
     Original Club 12" Mix    06:56
3. Tricky Tee Rap - Troy Rainey    
     Original Club 12" Mix    07:05
4. Spoonin Rap    - Spoonin G    
     Original Club 12" Mix    06:59
5. Death Rap - Margo’s Kool Out Crew    
     Original Club 12" Mix    04:36
6. A Game Of Life - Lavaba & E. Mallison    
    Original Club 12" Mix    04:36
7. Boogie Feelin’ Rap - Sweet G    
    Original Club 12" Mix    08:18
8. Scoopy Rap - Scoopy    
    Original Club 12" Mix    04:53
9. Willie Rap - Willie Wood & Willie Wood Crew    
    Original Club 12" Mix    05:59
10. Fly Guy Rap    - Fly Guy    
      Original Club 12" Mix 04:00
11. Equidity Funk - Mistafide    
      Original Club 12" Mix 11:20
            
CD3                
1. Roller Rink Funk - Shift    
    Original Club 12" Mix    04:37
2. Big Foot Boogie - Brisko The Kidd    
    Original Club 12" Mix    04:19
3. This Is The Way You Do The Breakdance - Super Coper & Clarence Breakers    
    Original Club 12" Mix 08:41
4. One Time Two Time Blow Your Mind - (MC) Rock Lovely
    Original Club 12" Mix    04:40
5. Win Jesse Win - Stack    
    Original Club 12" Mix    04:30
6. Sweet Naomi Rap - Naomi Peterson    
    Original Club 12" Mix    06:46
7. CC Crew Rap - CC Crew    
    Original Club 12" Mix    11:04
8. Roller Rooster Rap Dance - Fresh Female    
    Original Club 12" Mix    05:04
9. It’s Rough - The Imperial Three    
    Original Club 12" Mix    05:17
10. Hip Shaker - Two Hype    
      Original Club 12" Mix 03:59
11. Gangster Rock - Little Starski    
       Original Club 12" Mix 07:42
12. Smooth Talk     - Mr Fox    
       Original Club 12" Mix 07:50
13. Shout At The Disco - Little Scotty     
       Original Club 12" Mix 05:01

Ian D

 

Which shares the intro (at least) with David Martin "You"re Mighty Right"

Love em both

Cheers Paul

 

Just asked Patrick Adams. This is what he said:

"I have never heard that record before in my life. Sounds like they had access to the original 24trk master, stripped it down and rebuilt a new track over it. I'm speechless"

Then I looked up the producer of David Martin and it's a producer / songwriter / label owner named Jim Porter who actually managed The Eight Minutes!

HURTXCD137 Sources: The P&P Records Soul & Disco Anthology

 

Ian D

 

A broad range of musical styles and beats on that anthology but in truth  little to enthuse the (rare) soul and funk crowd.

Any prospect of a collection concentrating on the soul/funk side of P & P ?

Just asked Patrick Adams. This is what he said:

"I have never heard that record before in my life. Sounds like they had access to the original 24trk master, stripped it down and rebuilt a new track over it. I'm speechless"

Then I looked up the producer of David Martin and it's a producer / songwriter / label owner named Jim Porter who actually managed The Eight Minutes!

thanks for the info 1978 - will pull out The Eight Minutes album and have a closer listen - I wonder if  Patrick Adams has a discography of his work ?

Any of his  music/product that  was recorded and never actually saw the light of day - i would guess there is 100s of tracks that never made it past this stage ? 

 

PS would love to know who some of the groups consisted of ? Daybreak,Caress, 8 Minutes ,Magnetic Touch ,The Reasons to Live ? etc ...just to mention a few .... the list is endless, are there any photos about of these groups ?  - I recall being told that Daybreak was destined to be released on  the Prelude Records (NYC ) label ? Did it make it to a demo release ? 

 

tfk

 

 tfk 

 

Edited August 21, 20159 yr by tfk

A broad range of musical styles and beats on that anthology but in truth  little to enthuse the (rare) soul and funk crowd.

Any prospect of a collection concentrating on the soul/funk side of P & P ?

Certain things couldn't be included due to legal issues and some things that were thought to be P&P owned turned out not be P&P owned. There's almost zero documentation on much of the stuff so this is pretty much the best we could do under the circumstances. Bill Brewster compiled these mainly for the Disco collectors and crate-diggers audiences to be fair......

Ian D  

Just asked Patrick Adams. This is what he said:

"I have never heard that record before in my life. Sounds like they had access to the original 24trk master, stripped it down and rebuilt a new track over it. I'm speechless"

Then I looked up the producer of David Martin and it's a producer / songwriter / label owner named Jim Porter who actually managed The Eight Minutes!

Brilliant research 1978

You"re my favourite year !!!!!

 

Cheers Paul