Ok its that time again...

once every 5 or so years we do have to do a serious upgrade to the site system software

Due to the nature of the upgrade and the custom side of the main  site features  along with the amount and the age of the content on here it can be just a bit problematic.

Plan is to start it all next Monday Night 12th May 2025. Once the upgrade has been carried out , there may be a lot of work afterwards to get the main features back up and running as you are used to, so 

Anyway ideally the total process will take no more than 3 days ,The site should be available but as said some main features may be lacking or indeed absent for a short time

Just letting ya know in advance, all happening next week

 

 

 

 

 

56 minutes ago, Martyn Pitt said:

Yes Mike that is what I am seeing, I need to remove the right hand column, I wear wide field varifocal specs and it makes reading the posts distracting.

Thanks

Martyn, there's no easy way to offer that at the current moment

a work around could be to drag your browser window so its smaller in width, as when the site hits a certain width the sidebar falls down and out of view and so it will then be single pane view

any good?

21 minutes ago, Source Team said:

thats odd as the image shows dark text but the browsers doesn't

so the theory is got to be the browser settings?

have you got another browser on your pc you could test the site out on?

if that's the same it may be your pc settings?

Strange -

I use Firefox normally, but I just tried it in Chrome and Opera and it's fine. I think the problem with Firefox is the distinction between bold and light text is lost, as if any styling is not happening.

For me at least using opera is an ok workaround.

Cheers

Mick

52 minutes ago, Source Team said:

Martyn, there's no easy way to offer that at the current moment

a work around could be to drag your browser window so its smaller in width, as when the site hits a certain width the sidebar falls down and out of view and so it will then be single pane view

any good?

Thanks for the reply I will try that.

On 16/05/2025 at 00:05, Mike said:

Gav

Its ok here, maybe a browser issue, as some have had issues with the editor, can you try another one and see if the same?

Hi Mike,

You right, the delay in letters appearing only occurs when I'm using Safari on my iPad. Using Google browser to reply an the digits appear instantly.

I guess I'm just gonna have to live with the delay on my iPad.

Best

Gav

1 hour ago, Illusive said:

Hi Mike,

You right, the delay in letters appearing only occurs when I'm using Safari on my iPad. Using Google browser to reply an the digits appear instantly.

I guess I'm just gonna have to live with the delay on my iPad.

Best

Gav

yep can't do much for older browser versions, maybe type elsewhere then use copy and paste for the longer posts

2 hours ago, Mick Holdsworth said:

Strange -

I use Firefox normally, but I just tried it in Chrome and Opera and it's fine. I think the problem with Firefox is the distinction between bold and light text is lost, as if any styling is not happening.

For me at least using opera is an ok workaround.

Cheers

Mick

just checked on firefox here and it all seems ok from here, same as other browsers, maybe its a firefox settings thing?

have to smile as just thought that you can always use our brand new 'dark view'!

1 hour ago, Mike said:

yep can't do much for older browser versions, maybe type elsewhere then use copy and paste for the longer posts

just checked on firefox here and it all seems ok from here, same as other browsers, maybe its a firefox settings thing?

have to smile as just thought that you can always use our brand new 'dark view'!

I really like the dark mode - it's much less eye strain than the white background! Big thumbs up from me!

Mike,

Don't know if these have been mentioned or brought to your attention but the Google maps have "disappeared" from the events page .

I just looked the Twisted Wheel event for 25th May and the map was there.

Logged to change something and when I saved the change, the map has gone with the following error-

No matter what I try, It will not return

This happens on my windows 11 PC and also on Android phone.

The other minor thing is when adding the "END" time for the event I cannot get the colon ":" to show betwen hour and minute.

John Green

Edited May 19May 19 by John Green

2 hours ago, John Green said:

Mike,

Don't know if these have been mentioned or brought to your attention but the Google maps have "disappeared" from the events page .

I just looked the Twisted Wheel event for 25th May and the map was there.

Logged to change something and when I saved the change, the map has gone with the following error-

No matter what I try, It will not return

This happens on my windows 11 PC and also on Android phone.

The other minor thing is when adding the "END" time for the event I cannot get the colon ":" to show betwen hour and minute.

John Green

looking into it John, will post once resolved

9 hours ago, Mick Holdsworth said:

Strange -

I use Firefox normally, but I just tried it in Chrome and Opera and it's fine. I think the problem with Firefox is the distinction between bold and light text is lost, as if any styling is not happening.

For me at least using opera is an ok workaround.

Cheers

Mick

MIck

Looked a bit deeper and it looks like you are using a old version of firefox

If you can you be best upgrading or switching

cheers

mike

Hi Mike

I've noticed that the paid for pink event banners/headers are no longer showing on the activity stream when they used to before the upgrade x

Edited May 19May 19 by Jumpinjoan

3 hours ago, John Green said:

Mike,

Don't know if these have been mentioned or brought to your attention but the Google maps have "disappeared" from the events page .

I just looked the Twisted Wheel event for 25th May and the map was there.

Logged to change something and when I saved the change, the map has gone with the following error-

No matter what I try, It will not return

This happens on my windows 11 PC and also on Android phone.

The other minor thing is when adding the "END" time for the event I cannot get the colon ":" to show betwen hour and minute.

John Green

ok on the google maps issue, thanks for making us aware, appreciated

now resolved

all entries that entered details should now be showing their map ok

1 hour ago, Jumpinjoan said:

Hi Mike

I've noticed that the paid for pink event banners/headers are no longer showing on the activity stream when they used to before the upgrade x

thanks Joan, on the list todo

thumbs up

Many Thanks Mike,

13 hours ago, Source Team said:

MIck

Looked a bit deeper and it looks like you are using a old version of firefox

If you can you be best upgrading or switching

cheers

mike

It's an old version of Windows (Win 7), so that's probably the root problem.

19 hours ago, Mike said:

have to smile as just thought that you can always use our brand new 'dark view'!

I'll try that Mike, but where can I find Dark View. Thanks.

Hi Mike,

Hope all ok.

I can’t locate sales feedback page on new format.

Any advice?

Cheers

Keamus

2 minutes ago, Keamus said:

Hi Mike,

Hope all ok.

I can’t locate sales feedback page on new format.

Any advice?

Cheers

Keamus

Hi Keamus

been mentioned a few times above

feedback is off line at the moment

up to 2 weeks , as said waiting for the author of that app to update, if not available by then will look at an alternative version/setup - data is kept so hopefully wont be too much of a pain or too long

a week or so left

cheers

Thanks for clarifying!

4 hours ago, Mick Holdsworth said:

I'll try that Mike, but where can I find Dark View. Thanks.

Scroll down to the bottom of the page Mick - in the left hand corner there are 3 icons - click on the one that looks like a half-moon for the dark option. I find the dark mode causes much less eye strain! Hope this helps.

On 19/05/2025 at 17:46, John Green said:

The other minor thing is when adding the "END" time for the event I cannot get the colon ":" to show betwen hour and minute.

John Green

this and similar hassle with the door tax entry has now been resolved

21 hours ago, Kathryn Magson said:

Scroll down to the bottom of the page Mick - in the left hand corner there are 3 icons - click on the one that looks like a half-moon for the dark option. I find the dark mode causes much less eye strain! Hope this helps.

Thanks Kathryn, that is better, for me atleast.

on an on it goes....

work is taking that bit longer than first thought, the time and effort needed to rewrite, rebuild and such all our custom features on here, has been a bit more than first anticipated

example is the events 'near me' map feature, which took a fair few hours to sort

anyway this is now open for members for final testing and all being well will open later today for all

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/events/14-local-soul/

I'm assuming we're stuck with this dreadful font and its terrible spacing forever now ?

It's really doing my head in to read , what was wrong with the existing font that meant it needed "upgrading" (and also shrinking) in such an awful way ?

36 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said:

I'm assuming we're stuck with this dreadful font and its terrible spacing forever now ?

It's really doing my head in to read , what was wrong with the existing font that meant it needed "upgrading" (and also shrinking) in such an awful way ?

The upgrade meant a complete reset of all the site customisation that has been carried out over the previous years, returning the site back to a default format

The current font is one of the default fonts that the system software now offer and was felt to be best suited after the reset of the site, the previous font family used wasn't offered as a choice and so was/is not available at this time

Your post is the first mention/feedback that have had about the new default font choice, yep sure could change or could offer other options in the future but it all needs to be done in a deliberate way when things are rock solid, which unfortunately they are not yet

6 hours ago, Mike said:

The upgrade meant a complete reset of all the site customisation that has been carried out over the previous years, returning the site back to a default format

The current font is one of the default fonts that the system software now offer and was felt to be best suited after the reset of the site, the previous font family used wasn't offered as a choice and so was/is not available at this time

Your post is the first mention/feedback that have had about the new default font choice, yep sure could change or could offer other options in the future but it all needs to be done in a deliberate way when things are rock solid, which unfortunately they are not yet

Very sad to hear , still it's your playground so your rules I guess.

Have fun with the infernal mess the 'upgrade's created , you're obviously happy with it which is all that matters I guess , it's been fun but ....

13 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said:

Very sad to hear , still it's your playground so your rules I guess.

Have fun with the infernal mess the 'upgrade's created , you're obviously happy with it which is all that matters I guess , it's been fun but ....

no worries, the site is actually now imo in its strongest state for years tech wise

like the new switch the future's bright/dark

To be honest Mike I am with Woodbutcher on this, there is a delay when typing into the message box, the text is smaller and not as clear, and navigation is delayed and jerky ... I am not seeing much evidence of an upgrade.

It may improve when you finish all the customisation.

19 minutes ago, Martyn Pitt said:

To be honest Mike I am with Woodbutcher on this, there is a delay when typing into the message box, the text is smaller and not as clear, and navigation is delayed and jerky ... I am not seeing much evidence of an upgrade.

It may improve when you finish all the customisation.

If you are using older versions of browsers on older os's then you may hit such issues, can you let me know what version you are using, pm if rather

thanks

17 minutes ago, Mike said:

If you are using older versions of browsers on older os's then you may hit such issues, can you let me know what version you are using, pm if rather

thanks

I am using Safari 17.6 ... if I change browser will that get rid of the annoying column of text on the right hand side?

11 minutes ago, Martyn Pitt said:

I am using Safari 17.6 ... if I change browser will that get rid of the annoying column of text on the right hand side?

Hi Martyn, Im using 18.5, it has the activity section still on the right hand side if thats what you mean?

pic of safari 18.5 browser if that helps

2 hours ago, Martyn Pitt said:

I am using Safari 17.6 ... if I change browser will that get rid of the annoying column of text on the right hand side?

the 'column of text' is a layout feature, which doesn't really depend on browser version

it was there before , its just now 'sticky' now, the text flows with the scrolling

did mention a temp work around of narrowing the browser window

as said before, can look at things like this later when things are solid

but it makes no sense whatsoever to start changing things at this moment based on one person requests/references

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does appear in this topic at least, that members using non-current browsers on non-current operating systems may be having problems with the display/layout

will look into this deeper later and see what options are available, but suggest for now those using such try and use a more up to date browser

Sorry for the hassle Mike, as I said I will see what it's like when all the work is finished.

ok a catch up of the current state of the site

main features

Feedback feature - author of app says an alpha version be ready in a few days

Our online store should return in 48-72hrs

Site layout

Almost firm, just work on header outstanding

news feature, video feature

work needed on layouts/display

forum

minor tweaks to do

soul markt

once feedback is back can add the previous sale related links/info

events

working fine!

need to sort the return of the map view

front page

layout work needed

Misc

birthdays gone walkabout, now back

ok that's about it

thanks to most for the constructive feedback and suggestions

1 hour ago, Mike said:

ok a catch up of the current state of the site

main features

Feedback feature - author of app says an alpha version be ready in a few days

Our online store should return in 48-72hrs

Site layout

Almost firm, just work on header outstanding

news feature, video feature

work needed on layouts/display

forum

minor tweaks to do

soul markt

once feedback is back can add the previous sale related links/info

events

working fine!

need to sort the return of the map view

front page

layout work needed

Misc

birthdays gone walkabout, now back

ok that's about it

thanks to most for the constructive feedback and suggestions

ta...for the update...

Just noticed one little thing that's gone missing , before when you wanted to find your own 'Content' you would just hover the cursor over your user avatar top right and the options would drop down with a 'Find my content' box therein , you now have to click on the avatar to get the drop-down and the Find Content option is no longer there.

It's no great hassle but you now have to open your profile and hunt around that way but the previous set-up was nicer , has it gone forever ?

And similarly if you hover over your avatar on the left in the activity feed there is just a blank grey box appears , but nothing in the box regarding content etc.

Edited 9 hours ago9 hr by Woodbutcher

41 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said:

Just noticed one little thing that's gone missing , before when you wanted to find your own 'Content' you would just hover the cursor over your user avatar top right and the options would drop down with a 'Find my content' box therein , you now have to click on the avatar to get the drop-down and the Find Content option is no longer there.

It's no great hassle but you now have to open your profile and hunt around that way but the previous set-up was nicer , has it gone forever ?

just checked and yep that hover menu has gone

the link took you to your activity page, that is the same place as the 'show me my activity " button/link on your profiles does now

so now 3 clicks 'open menu' , goto profile and then 'find my activity' instead of the 2 before

the amount of customisation needed to bring that hover menu or similar back is just not feasible

41 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said:

And similarly if you hover over your avatar on the left in the activity feed there is just a blank grey box appears , but nothing in the box regarding content etc.

you should be seeing something like the below each time you hover

are you seeing it in other places?

7 minutes ago, Mike said:

just checked and yep that hover menu has gone

the link took you to your activity page, that is the same place as the 'show me my activity " button/link on your profiles does now

so now 3 clicks 'open menu' , goto profile and then 'find my activity' instead of the 2 before

the amount of customisation needed to bring that hover menu or similar back is just not feasible

you should be seeing something like the below each time you hover

are you seeing it in other places?

Please ignore me Mike , when I hovered and the blank box appeared my avatar was near the bottom of the page so the details beneath the box were hidden until I scrolled down ...

P.S. It would be nice to see the emoji list reversed as it's a mini ballache scrolling right through the stuff nobody uses to get to the 'nice' smileys which are right at the bottom ...

Edited 8 hours ago8 hr by Woodbutcher

38 minutes ago, Woodbutcher said:

P.S. It would be nice to see the emoji list reversed as it's a mini ballache scrolling right through the stuff nobody uses to get to the 'nice' smileys which are right at the bottom ...

that's doable

just done, the classic/default ones are now at the top

27 minutes ago, Mike said:

that's doable

just done, the classic/default ones are now at the top

You're a darling , thank you ...

yeah aint i just

some of them they look a bit shabby, especially on dark view, will see if there's any better when time allows , as in same design but better resolution

I've not read this whole thread so excuse me if it"s already been mentioned but I" m missing the "Back To The Top" arrow on threads.

Cheers Paul

7 minutes ago, Soul Shrews said:

I've not read this whole thread so excuse me if it"s already been mentioned but I" m missing the "Back To The Top" arrow on threads.

Cheers Paul

I noticed that'd gone too but thought I'd done enough whingeing for one week , thanks for raising it ...

19 minutes ago, Soul Shrews said:

I've not read this whole thread so excuse me if it"s already been mentioned but I" m missing the "Back To The Top" arrow on threads.

Cheers Paul

showing here ok on desktop view

bottom right

can ya confirm if missing and will dig deeper

35 minutes ago, Mike said:

showing here ok on desktop view

bottom right

can ya confirm if missing and will dig deeper

Nowt there on my laptop view.

3 hours ago, Soul Shrews said:

I've not read this whole thread so excuse me if it"s already been mentioned but I" m missing the "Back To The Top" arrow on threads.

Cheers Paul

ok have tracked this one down and should now be resolved fully

thumbs up