Guest Rowly Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 Okay! So you know how it is... You're sitting there minding your own business when a tune suddenly pops into your head from nowhere - and you can't shift it. Happened to me last night.... Suddenly, Gladys Knight - "If You Ever Get Your Hands On Love" was ringing round by brain - and in the end I had to go and dig out my "Cellarfull of Motown" cd and play it. And it then got me to thinking.... Especially with all the original 45 only / no boots/pressings/cd's discussions going on round here ... So this was unreleased yes? So What's the history of it on the scene? Who first started playing it and when.... And what were they playing? Are there any legit demo copies going about that I'd need sell my children and /or vital body organs to buy? (If I could ever find one!) Was it off Studio Acetates cut straight from the Master Tapes? I've got one of those look-a-likey Soul w/d boots with "pieces of my broken heart" on the other side that came out a few years back.... But obviously that's a no no for playing out anywhere..... So what's the story peeps?
Jerry Hipkiss Posted February 4, 2005 Posted February 4, 2005 Your vital organs (and your kids!) are safe - no, there were no demos, it was part of one of the further "unreleased" lot...love it to death, but like you can't play it out at a venue as there's no original vinyl OK, the thought police might let me off with it, but I'd better not risk their wrath Jerry. 1
Guest Rowly Posted February 4, 2005 Posted February 4, 2005 (edited) Cheers Jerry.... Was beginning to think I had BO or bad breath or Summat... (120 views & no replies!) Surely a case of a boot being a pemissible play out in this case then, if no original vinyl exists??.... (Dons Tin Hat and retires quietly to the corner ready to receive incomming flak!) Edited February 4, 2005 by Rowly
Guest Andy BB Posted February 4, 2005 Posted February 4, 2005 Surely a case of a boot being a pemissible play out in this case then, if no original vinyl exists??.... (Dons Tin Hat and retires quietly to the corner ready to receive incomming flak!) link Wouldn't it be more a case of an acetate pressed by you, from the CD you own (on which royalties have been paid) being more permissable than a boot which someone else made illegal dosh out of? Feel free to ponder... But don't ask me, buggered if I know the answer!
Guest dundeedavie Posted February 4, 2005 Posted February 4, 2005 rowly ...as andy says get an acetate cut off the cd and that in my opinion is ok ...i done that with tammi terrell " all i do is think about you " which i THINK is the same sort of situation Davie
Guest Rowly Posted February 4, 2005 Posted February 4, 2005 (edited) Ah! But seeing as I have already bought the cd and therfore paid my royalty there, cutting an acetate off that would just be wasting money no? May a well just play the boot I already have.... in theory! And it still doesn't amswer my question.... who first played it out (to make it the fave it is...) and what did they play it off? Or was it just through Richard Searling playing it on the Radio? Edited February 4, 2005 by Rowly
Guest Andy BB Posted February 5, 2005 Posted February 5, 2005 Ah! But seeing as I have already bought the cd and therfore paid my royalty there, cutting an acetate off that would just be wasting money no? May a well just play the boot I already have.... in theory! And it still doesn't amswer my question.... who first played it out (to make it the fave it is...) and what did they play it off? Or was it just through Richard Searling playing it on the Radio? link No playing the boot isn't allowed you stingy Mod get!
Guest Rowly Posted February 5, 2005 Posted February 5, 2005 Whats the difference? Or do you pay a royalty when you get an Acetate cut?
Mixedangased Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 Think this is in a mow town box set on a 7”so legal issue and ok to play out
Smudger Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) It is a legal issue on here https://www.discogs.com/Various-The-Motown-7s-Box-Rare-And-Unreleased-Vinyl-Volume-2/release/5765677 Edited February 23, 2020 by Smudger
Guest Shufflin Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 there's also this re-edit one from last December (no idea what licensing status these have) https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/14541376?ev=rb
Mixedangased Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Shufflin said: there's also this re-edit one from last December (no idea what licensing status these have) https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/14541376?ev=rb Wouldn’t d like to say this release is legit or not Edited February 23, 2020 by Mixedangased
Davey S Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 On 04/02/2005 at 14:54, Jerry Hipkiss said: Your vital organs (and your kids!) are safe - no, there were no demos, it was part of one of the further "unreleased" lot...love it to death, but like you can't play it out at a venue as there's no original vinyl OK, the thought police might let me off with it, but I'd better not risk their wrath Jerry. If I were a DJ I would not have a problem playing my copy of this it needs playing it's one of the best .
Guest Shufflin Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 the OVO thing is getting stupid, I'd honestly just appreciate hearing it played and dancing to it, which I have (to a white carver probably, as were lots of these unreleased ones) if worried - buy a CDJ and play the original cheap CD and mix with that, it ain't difficult this scene
Scootboy Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) The one from the boxset Edited February 23, 2020 by Scootboy 2
Tobytyke Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 Tony Blackburn played it Saturday morning. Great track!
Davey S Posted February 23, 2020 Posted February 23, 2020 I have one of the Motown mock-up copies from years ago it's my prize possession , I got Gladys to sign the sleeve last time I saw her it's a fabulous track and one that should be played regardless of format
Chalky Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 13 hours ago, Shufflin said: there's also this re-edit one from last December (no idea what licensing status these have) https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/14541376?ev=rb Its a boot, those who were jailed I believe behind it play the cd or the box set one, anything else a boot 2
Blackpoolsoul Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Chalky said: Its a boot, those who were jailed I believe behind it play the cd or the box set one, anything else a boot These ones ? https://monkeyboxing.com/content/del-gazeebo-aldo-vanucci-soul-flip-edits/
Chalky Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 40 minutes ago, Blackpoolsoul said: These ones ? https://monkeyboxing.com/content/del-gazeebo-aldo-vanucci-soul-flip-edits/ Looks a different set up to what I was thinking but still don't think they are legit. Probably some copyright infringement with the logo too. We did discuss them a while back. 1
Davey S Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 From what I can remember it came from a haul out of a skip which pretty much makes them nicked , it's a great tune along with most of the other tracks that were saved from the tip.
Chalky Posted February 24, 2020 Posted February 24, 2020 There is no evidence of soul flip records on a company check, if it is legal they are under a different name but I somehow doubt it . Nothing on the label to say licensed etc and there usually is
Hutchy Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 On 24/02/2020 at 10:10, Chalky said: There is no evidence of soul flip records on a company check, if it is legal they are under a different name but I somehow doubt it . Nothing on the label to say licensed etc and there usually is Bought one off Manship Soul Label many moons ago . Sent back due to condition. Not as advertised . Regards Dave
Davey S Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 It is an excellent slab of Soul dance music got my White Soul copy signed by the lady herself , prize record in my collection and if I was djing would definitely play it legal or not kit deserves to be heard. Dave.
Hutchy Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, Davey S said: It is an excellent slab of Soul dance music got my White Soul copy signed by the lady herself , prize record in my collection and if I was djing would definitely play it legal or not kit deserves to be heard. Dave. Totally agree . Am still kicking myself over not accepting it . As may well never find another true white Soul Demo .
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