Been a while since I've hit soul-source... this really surprised me!!

I recently bought a copy of "Want Ads" / "Bird Walkin'" by the Emanon's (and Emanon's Orch.) off of the E(vil)Bay for the princely sum of $20 (10 pounds).

It's still on my 'favorites' search thing, and now I see one going off today for $300 with 8 hours left in the auction!

Did I get super absurdly lucky? The seller did have a typo in the listing ...

Has that auction just gone batty?

Or did I buy a good-lookin' boot? How do I tell?

Mine looks the same as this one up now (LINK TO EBAY AUCTION) and has 'virtue' stamped in the deadwax, as he mentions... but mine's label is suspiciously clean and nice lookin'!!

Any tips?

juddy

The tune was once re-released in a limited edition completely with a nice picture sleeve but I don`t knwo if they used the same label. Great tune still...so who was first Honey Cone or Emanon`s ?

Been a while since I've hit soul-source... this really surprised me!!

I recently bought a copy of "Want Ads" / "Bird Walkin'" by the Emanon's (and Emanon's Orch.) off of the E(vil)Bay for the princely sum of $20 (10 pounds).

It's still on my 'favorites' search thing, and now I see one going off today for $300 with 8 hours left in the auction!

Did I get super absurdly lucky? The seller did have a typo in the listing ...

Has that auction just gone batty?

Or did I buy a good-lookin' boot? How do I tell?

Mine looks the same as this one up now (LINK TO EBAY AUCTION) and has 'virtue' stamped in the deadwax, as he mentions... but mine's label is suspiciously clean and nice lookin'!!

Any tips?

juddy

Looks pretty much like my 70s boot mate. I used to have a real one and the vinyl was much heavier and I think the label was a deeper red. I think the boots play Bird Walkin slightly off centre too. Not sure about the virtue stamp though...

Godz

BOOTLEG IS BRILLIANT,ONLY SURE WAY TO TELL IS BY THE WEIGHT, MR MANSHIP TOOK MINE AWAY TO WEIGH IT AND THEN VERIFIED ORIGINALTY, BE VERY CAREFUL.

ALLTHE BEST CARL W

There are also very, very slight differences in the typeface for the artist and titles. You need to look very closely, but the bootleg sports a 'newer', squarer style of typeface - check it against the one on Ebay at the moment, which is a definite original.

BOOTLEG IS BRILLIANT,ONLY SURE WAY TO TELL IS BY THE WEIGHT, MR MANSHIP TOOK MINE AWAY TO WEIGH IT AND THEN VERIFIED ORIGINALTY, BE VERY CAREFUL.

ALLTHE BEST CARL W

ALL THE BEST TO YOU AND MARIA,

WHAT DOES A REAL ONE WEIGH THEN? I HAD MINE OF NEIL RUSHTON 4 YRS AGO £50 I SEEM TO REMEMBER.

JUST GOT IT OUT OF THE BOX FEELS QUITE HEAVY BUT NO SCALES TO WEIGH IT ON!!!!!

BEST WISHES

JOHN FISHER

ALL THE BEST TO YOU AND MARIA,

WHAT DOES A REAL ONE WEIGH THEN? I HAD MINE OF NEIL RUSHTON 4 YRS AGO £50 I SEEM TO REMEMBER.

JUST GOT IT OUT OF THE BOX FEELS QUITE HEAVY BUT NO SCALES TO WEIGH IT ON!!!!!

BEST WISHES

JOHN FISHER

HI JOHN

MANNY DID'NT TELL ME THE ACTUAL WEIGHT BUT HE'LL PROB REMEMBER IF YOU PM HIM, BUT IT IS MUCH HEAVIER THAN A NORMAL 45

REGARDS.CARL

There are also very, very slight differences in the typeface for the artist and titles. You need to look very closely, but the bootleg sports a 'newer', squarer style of typeface - check it against the one on Ebay at the moment, which is a definite original.

As the fella at The Attic Records told me today, when I asked him how to tell the difference, "If you paid $20, it's a boot!"

Looking at the eBay one and mine, mine's typface is definitely less 'classic 60s' font - not by much, mind!! But just enough to tell the diff.

And I know from the feel that it's NOT as heavy as y'all are saying it oughtta be. But hell, it's not like I'm selling it on, so I'll just think of it as an original.

Thanks, all!

To ease the pain, I picked up a few bits this afternoon: Sweethearts and Four Tees on Kent, and a mint-as-hell Lovettes, "Li'l Miss Soul" to replace my "spilled beer and cig ashes" copy.

juddy

I have a copy of this i got in a collection over here, I would sell it but i never know if its a boot or an orig.....so hard to tell....

chris

Heres mine,what i want to know is how they know what and why?or are they just making it up.

V

Dont give a toss what anyone says,its real..........unless i see proof of coarse.

Edited July 24, 200717 yr by ken

This is one 45 when you really need to know the exact matrix info some very intricate detail.

Here's the details you need.

ORIGINAL first press is made from heavier NON-FLEXIBLE vinyl. Deadwax matrix is hand hand written but matrix has a slight ndentation appearance, giving the impression of it being stamped in (look closely). Reads @ 6 o'clock A-72869-B with VIRTUE directly opposite @ 12 o'clock.

2nd press Is made is lighter flexible vinyl, matrix is scratched with no indentation formed & reads A 7Z869 - B the 7 in the number resembles a reversed F

Value of the original is £300+ second press isrises in value to around £25 / £25

Hope you guys buy the book when it comes out..

Edited July 25, 200717 yr by john manship

2nd press Is made is lighter flexible vinyl, matrix is scratched with no indentation formed & reads A 7Z869 - B the 7 in the number resembles a reversed F

Ahh - that reverse "F" seals it - mine's a second press... well, good to know f'sure.

Was the 'second press' still made under Sonny Hopson?

Tell ya what, still sounds like a million bucks - anybody heard Philly Dave Brown's CD of the Sonny Hopson show, where he talks over the breaks in "Look in the Want Ads"? F'in brilliant... no wonder nobody listens to radio anymore, when there's no one like him on the air!!

juddy

This is one 45 when you really need to know the exact matrix info some very intricate detail.

Here's the details you need.

ORIGINAL first press is made from heavier NON-FLEXIBLE vinyl. Deadwax matrix is hand hand written but matrix has a slight ndentation appearance, giving the impression of it being stamped in (look closely). Reads @ 6 o'clock A-72869-B with VIRTUE directly opposite @ 12 o'clock.

2nd press Is made is lighter flexible vinyl, matrix is scratched with no indentation formed & reads A 7Z869 - B the 7 in the number resembles a reversed F

Value of the original is £300+ second press isrises in value to around £25 / £25

Hope you guys buy the book when it comes out..

by "the book" you mean the new bootleg guide? When is it scheduled to come out? Thanks.

If you look closely on the originals the numbers on the right are slightly higher than the letters on the left. That's what i go off still looking for one myself.

 

Edited February 25, 20223 yr by Dave Sulcas

Oooops just noticed this is from 2007.

I think its been pressed 3 times (?) with a couple of dodgy quality. However there is one boot which is good quality sound wise and looks like an orig, but I was told there a few differences in the run out grooves (see above) and the orig is a dark red and looks like a Rite Pressing with a pronounced central dish effect. 

One of the boots has black text and has The Pretenders - I wanna be - on the other side - so very easy to identify!!   Sound quality is quite good though on this one though.

Adam.

Found this today had me confused for a while it selling as an original Pretenders but a re-issue of Bird Walkin... I've now lost the will to live.

 

Edited February 25, 20223 yr by Dave Sulcas

22 minutes ago, Dave Sulcas said:

Found this today had me confused for a while it selling as an original Pretenders but a re-issue of Bird Walkin... I've now lost the will to live.

 

It it has these me thinks

Matrix / Runout (Side A, Hand Etched): CA 1087

Matrix / Runout (Side B, Hand Etched): CA 1088

It's a Bootleg