Just going through my album collection tonight and played this as I heard it at a soul night at the weekend , had'nt played the track in donkeys but forgot how good it was , now listening to Eddy Edmondson's radio show and it gets played !

Who else is playing this out at the moment and is it getting reactivated ?

Just going through my album collection tonight and played this as I heard it at a soul night at the weekend , had'nt played the track in donkeys but forgot how good it was , now listening to Eddy Edmondson's radio show and it gets played !

Who else is playing this out at the moment and is it getting reactivated ?

I sent this to Eddy for him to consider playing, as one of the two tunes he plays weekly from my website www.soulmusic.co.uk as i have a couple of copies for sale.

Does sound ripe for reactivation doesn't it?

Cheers

Steve

missed three of these on the bay. was gonna get it and sit on it, cos i'm sure it will have it's day again. great little c,hall toon!!

missed three of these on the bay. was gonna get it and sit on it, cos i'm sure it will have it's day again. great little c,hall toon!!

yes nice 70s sing along tune

have a spare myself for sale

I actually bought this tune on 7" yesterday for $10 so I am still waiting for it to arrive. I had been looking for a copy for a while, and I am happy to finally get a nice copy for a good price. Manship had it at £20 for a long time, but I noticed that recently he raised it to £40.

I actually bought this tune on 7" yesterday for $10 so I am still waiting for it to arrive. I had been looking for a copy for a while, and I am happy to finally get a nice copy for a good price. Manship had it at £20 for a long time, but I noticed that recently he raised it to £40.

mmmm... and it was an 80p genuine anti-rarity when I first played it!

Guess now its fetching a couple of bob, it'll start picking up a few plays.

TOO LATE WAS A MUCH BIGGER SELLER IN THE STATES AS WELL SO IF THIS HAD THE SAME EXPOSURE IT COULD AND SHOULD AT LEAST MATCH THAT IN THE PRICE TAG STAKES. WASNT IT ANOTHER ONE OF YOURS SEAN

DAVE

TOO LATE WAS A MUCH BIGGER SELLER IN THE STATES AS WELL SO IF THIS HAD THE SAME EXPOSURE IT COULD AND SHOULD AT LEAST MATCH THAT IN THE PRICE TAG STAKES. WASNT IT ANOTHER ONE OF YOURS SEAN

DAVE

99.99999% sure it was Steve Croft at Rotherham, Sean disagrees and normally I bow down to his memory but this time the senility and the whisky has got the better of him!!

I definitely remember buying one off Crofty at Rotherham for £10 which sounds very Steve, when Sean and everyone else was obviously buying them for 80p.

Sounds great now and funnily enough I just recorded it this week so will put a clip up in a minute or two.

99.99999% sure it was Steve Croft at Rotherham, Sean disagrees and normally I bow down to his memory but this time the senility and the whisky has got the better of him!!

I definitely remember buying one off Crofty at Rotherham for £10 which sounds very Steve, when Sean and everyone else was obviously buying them for 80p.

Sounds great now and funnily enough I just recorded it this week so will put a clip up in a minute or two.

In truth... It was both of us Jock.

Aside from our own boxes, we had a joint 50 playbox (probably the first 'hot box' ) that Mandrill and the dozens of others we broke at the time (Ronnie Dyson, Norman Connors, Annis, Skip Mahoney, Chaka Khan, Dramatics, Gene Page, Ujima etc) were all in.

First, I'd play the top new tunes from 'the box' and then later Steve would play the same tunes from 'the box' and vice versa. That's how we broke so many records in quick succession and they'd become huge overnight.

It's first airing was almost certainly by me (and Steve) at Cleethorpes - but as Jock says - it would also have been played at Clifton, Bradford, Warrington and everywhere else we were involved in around that time.... its just that, in the depths of what memory I have left, I'm pretty sure that its baptism was at Cleggy.... though it could have been either... because it was definitely both!

Sean

In truth... It was both of us Jock.

Aside from our own boxes, we had a joint 50 playbox (probably the first 'hot box' ) that Mandrill and the dozens of others we broke at the time (Ronnie Dyson, Norman Connors, Annis, Skip Mahoney, Chaka Khan, Dramatics, Gene Page, Ujima etc) were all in.

First, I'd play the top new tunes from 'the box' and then later Steve would play the same tunes from 'the box' and vice versa. That's how we broke so many records in quick succession and they'd become huge overnight.

It's first airing was almost certainly by me (and Steve) at Cleethorpes - but as Jock says - it would also have been played at Clifton, Bradford, Warrington and everywhere else we were involved in around that time.... its just that, in the depths of what memory I have left, I'm pretty sure that its baptism was at Cleggy.... though it could have been either... because it was definitely both!

Sean

Okay you could have me on that one, only went to a couple of Crofties Cleethorpes dos as they seemed the ends of the Earth then, Rotherham via Manchester (the only train route for us then) involved having to take the afternoon off so Cleethorpes seemed a bridge too far (still does when I think about it!).

ALl these venues sort of run into one time span for me, would be interested to have dates on them all, I often forget Rotherham had been going for a year before I first went, as only went the month after the Casino closed (or to be more accurate the month after its first last night as that was the only one I went to!!)

Your impending sentence to a retirement home has been postponed for now, we can carry this on at Essence!!

See you mate, maybe you should ring Bully and make sure he went to bed after his 5.41am appearance on here this morning.

Okay off to insulate my loft while listening to Junior Walker, was supposed to start 40 minutes ago but Betty Wright has been flirting with me aurally since then.

Just going through my album collection tonight and played this as I heard it at a soul night at the weekend , had'nt played the track in donkeys but forgot how good it was , now listening to Eddy Edmondson's radio show and it gets played !

Who else is playing this out at the moment and is it getting reactivated ?

Currently being reactivated in my lounge!!!

Hadn't played this in years, still sounds great, can't remember where I first heard it but can remember it being well played at Stafford - Top of the world around '82/3.

Thanks for jogging my memory!

Just going through my album collection tonight and played this as I heard it at a soul night at the weekend , had'nt played the track in donkeys but forgot how good it was , now listening to Eddy Edmondson's radio show and it gets played !

Who else is playing this out at the moment and is it getting reactivated ?

I've played this out a few times in the last year or so, Bonnyrigg, Hibs club etc, a cracking little cheapo well worth looking out for

Lenny

Just going through my album collection tonight and played this as I heard it at a soul night at the weekend , had'nt played the track in donkeys but forgot how good it was , now listening to Eddy Edmondson's radio show and it gets played !

Who else is playing this out at the moment and is it getting reactivated ?

Great record playing this at minworth soul club well worth £10 but going up in price . BRUMMIE CARL

In truth... It was both of us Jock.

Aside from our own boxes, we had a joint 50 playbox (probably the first 'hot box' ) that Mandrill and the dozens of others we broke at the time (Ronnie Dyson, Norman Connors, Annis, Skip Mahoney, Chaka Khan, Dramatics, Gene Page, Ujima etc) were all in.

First, I'd play the top new tunes from 'the box' and then later Steve would play the same tunes from 'the box' and vice versa. That's how we broke so many records in quick succession and they'd become huge overnight.

It's first airing was almost certainly by me (and Steve) at Cleethorpes - but as Jock says - it would also have been played at Clifton, Bradford, Warrington and everywhere else we were involved in around that time.... its just that, in the depths of what memory I have left, I'm pretty sure that its baptism was at Cleggy.... though it could have been either... because it was definitely both!

Sean

In truth... It was both of us Jock.

I used to play this at Cleggy too, nicer on vinyl than the crappy styrene

Edited February 22, 200916 yr by Awake 502

yes nice 70s sing along tune

have a spare myself for sale

NOW SOLD --NICE DEMO IT WAS

TO A CERTAIN STOKE CITY LOVING D.J

can anyone guess who

NOW SOLD --NICE DEMO IT WAS

TO A CERTAIN STOKE CITY LOVING D.J

can anyone guess who

There's not that many to guess from so is it MR everson brummie carl

Okay you could have me on that one, only went to a couple of Crofties Cleethorpes dos as they seemed the ends of the Earth then, Rotherham via Manchester (the only train route for us then) involved having to take the afternoon off so Cleethorpes seemed a bridge too far (still does when I think about it!).

ALl these venues sort of run into one time span for me, would be interested to have dates on them all, I often forget Rotherham had been going for a year before I first went, as only went the month after the Casino closed (or to be more accurate the month after its first last night as that was the only one I went to!!)

Your impending sentence to a retirement home has been postponed for now, we can carry this on at Essence!!

See you mate, maybe you should ring Bully and make sure he went to bed after his 5.41am appearance on here this morning.

Okay off to insulate my loft while listening to Junior Walker, was supposed to start 40 minutes ago but Betty Wright has been flirting with me aurally since then.

That Jr Walker "Hot Shot" album is the business isn't it?

Ian D

That Jr Walker "Hot Shot" album is the business isn't it?

Ian D

Also one on www.raresoul45s.co.uk Ive also played this a few times lately Had forgotton how good it was until I heard Sean Hampsey play it at Bridgewater about a year ago, definatley gathering momentum sold a copy on Friday this is the last copy.

I come across this less than Too Late a much rarer record imo.

In truth... It was both of us Jock.

Aside from our own boxes, we had a joint 50 playbox (probably the first 'hot box' ) that Mandrill and the dozens of others we broke at the time (Ronnie Dyson, Norman Connors, Annis, Skip Mahoney, Chaka Khan, Dramatics, Gene Page, Ujima etc) were all in.

First, I'd play the top new tunes from 'the box' and then later Steve would play the same tunes from 'the box' and vice versa. That's how we broke so many records in quick succession and they'd become huge overnight.

It's first airing was almost certainly by me (and Steve) at Cleethorpes - but as Jock says - it would also have been played at Clifton, Bradford, Warrington and everywhere else we were involved in around that time.... its just that, in the depths of what memory I have left, I'm pretty sure that its baptism was at Cleggy.... though it could have been either... because it was definitely both!

Sean

Jock's right Sean. It was played at Rotherham, I thought it was played there before Cleggy actually. By both of you from your joint "hot box" as no one else played it there (CH). The Dramatics and Skip M weren't "hot box" records though. Even Bill W played the Dramatics as a new release ( as did everybody else ) and Skip M (I assume you mean Running Away from Love rather than Janice) was played at CH well before Ujima etc. In fact after SC left CH, those records (Connors Ujima) etc etc were played almost exclusively by you, with the odd exception of course .

ps I notice you make no claim to the "Where Can We Go" cover up though

Jock's right Sean. It was played at Rotherham, I thought it was played there before Cleggy actually. By both of you from your joint "hot box" as no one else played it there (CH). The Dramatics and Skip M weren't "hot box" records though. Even Bill W played the Dramatics as a new release ( as did everybody else ) and Skip M (I assume you mean Running Away from Love rather than Janice) was played at CH well before Ujima etc. In fact after SC left CH, those records (Connors Ujima) etc etc were played almost exclusively by you, with the odd exception of course .

ps I notice you make no claim to the "Where Can We Go" cover up though

Early Stafford too , I think Sam and Adey ?

Early Stafford too , I think Sam and Adey ?

Very early Stafford though Simon. At the time of CH and Cleeethorpes Sam wasn't on at Stafford (if I remember correctly) Richard and Pat were the two "headliners" ably backed by dave Thorley and Gary Rushbrooke (plus others) i think.80/81 ish ?

err. The above is partly wrong. See next post

Edited February 22, 200916 yr by SteveM

Very early Stafford though Simon. At the time of CH and Cleeethorpes Sam wasn't on at Stafford (if I remember correctly) Richard and Pat were the two "headliners" ably backed by dave Thorley and Gary Rushbrooke (plus others) i think.80/81 ish ?

Actually when did Stafford start . First time I went was 1982

Actually when did Stafford start . First time I went was 1982

Actually Simon, I'm wrong. I've just looked at Dave Rimmers site, and Sam was on at Stafford in 1983, as was Adey P) so he probably did play it then. He may well have played it on his and Arthurs "modern scene" ( arguments about the first modern scene on a separate thread please ) before that - or Cleethorpes - when Crofty was running it.

Actually Simon, I'm wrong. I've just looked at Dave Rimmers site, and Sam was on at Stafford in 1983, as was Adey P) so he probably did play it then. He may well have played it on his and Arthurs "modern scene" ( arguments about the first modern scene on a separate thread please ) before that - or Cleethorpes - when Crofty was running it.

Ahh OK . I think we had the first Modern Scene event thread years ago . by the way does anyone have Mandrill " Its so easy lovin you " on 7'' ?

Ahh OK . I think we had the first Modern Scene event thread years ago . by the way does anyone have Mandrill " Its so easy lovin you " on 7'' ?

The first modern scene threads are going to pale into insignificance now Seans become embroiled in the original vinyl/legitimate release argument. That'll make the freebasing political threads look like love ins

The first modern scene threads are going to pale into insignificance now Seans become embroiled in the original vinyl/legitimate release argument. That'll make the freebasing political threads look like love ins

Oh yeah could be interesting.. Im on Seans side

Edited February 22, 200916 yr by Simon M

Jock's right Sean. It was played at Rotherham, I thought it was played there before Cleggy actually. By both of you from your joint "hot box" as no one else played it there (CH). The Dramatics and Skip M weren't "hot box" records though. Even Bill W played the Dramatics as a new release ( as did everybody else ) and Skip M (I assume you mean Running Away from Love rather than Janice) was played at CH well before Ujima etc. In fact after SC left CH, those records (Connors Ujima) etc etc were played almost exclusively by you, with the odd exception of course .

ps I notice you make no claim to the "Where Can We Go" cover up though

I'm not saying it wasn't played at Rotherham Steve... I'm saying I believed its first airing was Cleggy. I distinctly remember putting the box together with Crofty and we both agreed it was 'more right' to break it there.

I'm pretty positive that I included it in a BlackBeat magazine review in my 'East Coast Connections' articles - that's why its become embroiled in my Psyche as primarily a Cleethorpes record.

No matter... it was played at both venues. We all agree.

Been thinking more about what was in the box, but first..., The Dramatics "I Can't Stand It" I sold a spare to Bill Ward - after I'd played it and he wanted it.

I had it as a 'brand new' release - he didn't .... and it did go into the Joint Box to be played by me and the Croftmeister!

Skip Mahoney on Abet 45 - definitely Cleethorpes and then Clifton Hall - I bought it from Mick Godfrey at the Winter Gardens and played it first night (had lots of my stuff from Mick). It was another one that I think I reviewed in BackBeat. Although the 12" had brief Mecca exposure, I'm pretty sure it wasn't played at Clifton Hall by me - or anyone else - before I played Ujima. I'd been spinning Ujima in almost every set since 1977 and it was a big local tune for me at the Windmill etc. long before the Clifton Hall, Cleggy, Bradford period etc. Certainly, I plundered a few 'occasional Mecca' spins. I saw it as a way of saving the world - or at least reuniting the crowd - as Wigan was approaching its demise and the Mecca had long gone. Those hardly played or forgotten tunes needed playing at a Nighter... and lets be honest.... the Pokes, Rushbrookes, Searlings, and Bradys wouldn't have touched a forgotten underplayed Mecca tune...... or a 50p junk shop find with a Barge Pole!

Other stuff that ended up in the box.....

Norman Connors, I bought from Alex Denham and broke that at Clifton Hall. Went huge - and then everyone (including Richard) started playing it.

Any Love - Rufus & Chaka Khan (Obvious pounder on UK MCA)

Finished Touch - The Down Sound (Crofty had a box full so we broke it at Cleggy and gave copies away on the first night)

Annis - Don't Play Your Games (He conned me into this one . I used it as a trade off for something more soulful )

Ronnie Dyson - Lady In Red (I found this on Lincoln market for 35p. I wanted to play the flip, but Steve wasn't keen. When I flipped it, so did he and we took it to the seaside... the rest is history )

Lorraine Johnson - The More I Get The More I Want (So right for that crowd at that time)

Ruby Wilson - The Feeling's Still There (UK Magnet... perfect to follow Lorraine Johnson... and it cost me pennies)

Gil Scott Heron - Lady Day & John Coltrane (An Inspired choice by Crofty - way ahead of his time!)

Billy Preston & Syreeta - Go For It (Another I'd prefer to forget - but Steve loved his 130BPM stuff)

High Fashion - Hold On (Another Mick Godfrey purchase that had had 'club action' but I launched it at Cleggy)

Al Hudson - Spread Love (Another Mecca sleeper)

Bobby Patterson - I'm In Love With You (Got inspired to pull this from my 'then' complete UK Action collection and hammer it on the back of Pokes Lester Thompkins c/u as I felt they were similar sounding southern midtempo thangs that the scene had previously ignored)

Darrell Banks - I'm The One Who Loves You (Nobody bothered with this until I dropped my old Charade copy at Clifton and it went on, and on, and on....)

Eddie Billups - Shake Off That Dream (Was given this by a young lady... and thought I'd play it in honour of her)

Rhonda Davis - Can You Remember (Bought this for the deep side - blew me away when I found the Ann Sexton soundalike on the flip)

Bill Harris - Am I Cold Am I Hot (Had been a Mecca spin I bought and played as a new release, but it found a new and appreciative audience at Cleggy and Clifton).

Samona Cooke - Subway (I'd been playing Sheri Richards 'Goin Away' and Kev Briscoe brought this to my attention as being similar sounding so it became another in the box and a Monster... for about a fortnight

Got to give a mention to Leon & The Whispers c/u "Gonna Give You More" which we all thought was on LP only - until Darren turned up the 45 years later. Took me ages to find one - and I reckon its harder than anything else we played at that time.

I'll add more as they come to me... but I think you and Jock will find that the old Grey Matter hasn't given up yet!

From memory, these were a couple of years before Stafford, but as mentioned, I'd like to see some exact dates for CH, Cleethorpes and Bradford as I often read things on here that conflict with my recollections and timescales.

Yes... to be continued at Essence, Jock (and hopefully Steve).

Sean

Edited February 24, 200916 yr by Sean Hampsey

Fantastic box Sean!

Mandrill will no doubt be dusted off by Captain Kearney at our new MSc (MODERN SOUL CLASSICS!) night (flyer below!), it's always been one of his top choons....... And while we're on Mandrill Avenue, I'll no doubt be digging out the 12 of 'Stay Tonight' off the new worlds album

Steve

Fantastic box Sean!

Mandrill will no doubt be dusted off by Captain Kearney at our new MSc (MODERN SOUL CLASSICS!) night (flyer below!), it's always been one of his top choons....... And while we're on Mandrill Avenue, I'll no doubt be digging out the 12 of 'Stay Tonight' off the new worlds album

Steve

Hi Steve looks good we'll be there

Daryl www.hullsoulclub.org.uk