Im confused every week we try to support our local venues but im getting bored . most of my freinds tend to travel out of the black country to get away from the commercial motown & overplayed culture that seems to be thriving here . . im not talking about mega rare stuff just underplayed tracks that fill the dance floors anywhere else . there are only a hand full of local venues that i really enjoy but of late they have been very quiet .

I love nighters but don,t want to do them every week ............so what,s wrong ?

mart ( kerby )

Edited March 14, 200916 yr by kerby

TRY THIS

Im confused every week we try to support our local venues but im getting bored . most of my freinds tend to travel out of the midlands to get away from the commercial motown & overplayed culture that seems to be thriving here . . im not talking about mega rare stuff just underplayed tracks that fill the dance floors anywhere else . there are only a hand full of local venues that i really enjoy but of late they have been very quiet .

I love nighters but don,t want to do them every week ............so what,s wrong ?

mart ( kerby )

Hi Mart,

As you know from running your own do, people say they want something different when it is offered they seem frightened to try something new.

It doesn't help when some other promoters in the area are content to stick with the same old same old.

Remember Mart you can't please all of the people all the time.

Just go out and enjoy it for what it is and it won't always be like this.

Jane & Taf

Im confused every week we try to support our local venues but im getting bored . most of my freinds tend to travel out of the midlands to get away from the commercial motown & overplayed culture that seems to be thriving here . . im not talking about mega rare stuff just underplayed tracks that fill the dance floors anywhere else . there are only a hand full of local venues that i really enjoy but of late they have been very quiet .

I love nighters but don,t want to do them every week ............so what,s wrong ?

mart ( kerby )

Hiya Mart,

That's the West Mids for ya mate, most venues are offering nothing but a diet of oldies, oldies and more oldies......and generally played by the same group of DJs that seem to take turns at doing the venues. It's why I've generally travelled to go out on a Fri/Sat night.

But we'll be seeing you at Move On! in Coventry on the 27th (well I hope we will anyway!!) and trust me, we're NOT the same old same old . Think you'll love it mate . For those that don't know about the Move On! nights then take a peek:

www.moveonsoulclub.co.uk

Well that's my promoting plug done....see you at Six Hills next week

Adam.

I think the Midlands is one of the best places in the country to live for Soul. There's a fair number of decent do's in the Midlands that play good soul - Banbury, Rugby, Warwick etc....

Only a couple of hours by car to the North, or the South... What's to complain about?

TRY THIS

this isn,t the point toad . yes uss is a great night pity it was,nt in a great venue .

I think the Midlands is one of the best places in the country to live for Soul. There's a fair number of decent do's in the Midlands that play good soul - Banbury, Rugby, Warwick etc....

Only a couple of hours by car to the North, or the South... What's to complain about?

ok so perhaps i should have said the black country . or drew a map & as i travel every day to & from places all over the country the last thing i want to do on a friday & saturday is travel somewhere else . all im saying is some promoters in the ( black country ) are obviously out to make a fast buck . they have venues on every week and are catering for people who don,t have weddings to go to .

mart

Edited March 12, 200916 yr by kerby

I think the Midlands is one of the best places in the country to live for Soul. There's a fair number of decent do's in the Midlands that play good soul - Banbury, Rugby, Warwick etc....

Only a couple of hours by car to the North, or the South... What's to complain about?

Rugby..yes great nighter and the freestyle room really lets DJs frredom to play the less obvious but you have to wait 2 months for it to come round again!

Banbury...yes, a really top quality soul night...but it's not in the West Mids!

Warwick....not been since they moved to the Assembly, enjoyed it the times I have been but it's an oldies and Motown night (nowt wrong with that, it's how they advertise themselves and they do a great job) and I think Mart was commenting that there are not many choices in the West Mids apart from oldies/motown.

Rugby and Lifeline do give the area quality nighters, but if you look at the soul nights there aren't many that offer anything different. Though maybe that is starting to change..Sunflower Lounge, Nu Solutions (if modern is your taste) and Move On! all started recently and all offer something different.....the big question is will they get the support they need????

Will agree with one thing though Simsy....the great thing about living around here is that it is easy to travel to venues north or south. Not sure how some guys like Steve C or Dave Monk Abbott get the energy and enthusiam to travel 4-5 hours to get to venues!

Adam.

PS. I don't dislike oldies, in fact love a good oldies night (just not every weekend) and IMO one of the best oldies nights around is 15 mins up the road at Nuneaton Co-op.

ok so perhaps i should have said the black country . or drew a map

mart

Laughing here - black country - midlands - west midlands ... Spit & a kick as my dad used to say, meaning just down the road. I remember complaing to a Yank about the drive from here to Cornwall to which he replied "shit man we go that far for taco".

Will agree with one thing though Simsy....the great thing about living around here is that it is easy to travel to venues north or south. Not sure how some guys like Steve C or Dave Monk Abbott get the energy and enthusiam to travel 4-5 hours to get to venues!

I don't live in t'midlands anymore & although the south is soulful, i do miss just 'nipping' to Manchester or Stafford. Have heard really good stuff about Move On, The Sunflower Lounge, The Attic etc but when you have a 4 hour + round trip it's a mission for just a soul night.

Edited March 12, 200916 yr by Mrs Simsy

Laughing here - black country - midlands - west midlands ... Spit & a kick as my dad used to say, meaning just down the road. I remember complaing to a Yank about the drive from here to Cornwall to which he replied "shit man we go that far for taco".

pmsl

Hiya Mart,

That's the West Mids for ya mate, most venues are offering nothing but a diet of oldies, oldies and more oldies......and generally played by the same group of DJs that seem to take turns at doing the venues. It's why I've generally travelled to go out on a Fri/Sat night.

But we'll be seeing you at Move On! in Coventry on the 27th (well I hope we will anyway!!) and trust me, we're NOT the same old same old . Think you'll love it mate . For those that don't know about the Move On! nights then take a peek:

www.moveonsoulclub.co.uk

Well that's my promoting plug done....see you at Six Hills next week

Adam.

come to scotland

this isn,t the point toad . yes uss is a great night pity it was,nt in a great venue .

oakleys a nice 2 room venue

what are you really looking for ?

black country events are doing what the majority want and thats to live in the past with the same djs playing requests

oakleys a nice 2 room venue

what are you really looking for ?

black country events are doing what the majority want and thats to live in the past with the same djs playing requests

sorry toad but after doing the oakley a few times i must say , i personaly dont like the venue it,s ok for weddings . .... thats an idea why dont we move one of the handbag nights into there and we can have a decent venue for uss .

well it must be very difficult to find a suitable venue with a understanding manager

its not easy to get both

at least the oakleys better than a wmc

Im confused every week we try to support our local venues but im getting bored . most of my freinds tend to travel out of the midlands to get away from the commercial motown & overplayed culture that seems to be thriving here . . im not talking about mega rare stuff just underplayed tracks that fill the dance floors anywhere else . there are only a hand full of local venues that i really enjoy but of late they have been very quiet .

I love nighters but don,t want to do them every week ............so what,s wrong ?

mart ( kerby )

Mart we have put 2 venues on in the midlands to play underplayed did it work NO

But you ars spot on

this isn,t the point toad . yes uss is a great night pity it was,nt in a great venue .

Don't worry Mart I have some news about USOS and will be putting a thread up later.

Sharon

Edited March 12, 200916 yr by munchkinette

I love nighters but don,t want to do them every week ............so what,s wrong ?

mart ( kerby )

You could go to an all-niter but only stay soul nite hours...

You get in £2 cheaper in the first hour at Rugby, so still a good deal.

Im confused every week we try to support our local venues but im getting bored . most of my freinds tend to travel out of the midlands to get away from the commercial motown & overplayed culture that seems to be thriving here . . im not talking about mega rare stuff just underplayed tracks that fill the dance floors anywhere else . there are only a hand full of local venues that i really enjoy but of late they have been very quiet .

I love nighters but don,t want to do them every week ............so what,s wrong ?

mart ( kerby )

HAVING LIVED IN WOLVES FOR 30 YRS NOW, IN MY YOUTH I MADE SURE THAT THE WEEKEND WAS ACTION PACKED, COMING UP TO THE MIDLANDS TO GO TO THE CATS, UP THE JUNCTION MECCA AND THE TORCH WITH THE LIKES OF MICK SMITH ect, WHEN WIGAN OPENED IN SEPT 73 UP UNTIL I DROPPED OF THE SCENE IN THE SPRING OF 78 I WOULD GO TO THE MECCA, WIGAN SAT NIGHT ,WIGAN OLDIES ALLNIGHTERS, CATS WHISKERS,SAMANTHAS, THE RITZ, CLEATHORPS BOTH PIERS, YATE,ST IVES AND PETERBOURGH, NOT FORGETTING THE MALLETT AND MANY MORE I EVEN WENT TO THE WHEEL IN 69, SO YOU CAN IMAGINE WHEN I CAME TO WOLVES EXPECTING IT TO BE DRIPPING WITTH RARE SOUL? I KNOW I DID NOT GO TO STAFFORD SHAME ON ME BUT DID GO TO THE VIC, 86 CLUB, JUNCTION 10 ALLNIGHTERS, KEELE, AND USE TO DJ AT THE BLACK HORSE, NOT FORGETTING PADDY & AGGYS DUES AT THE CONAUGHT, AND TEDS AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS, BUT RECENTLY LIKE THE LAST 8 YEARS I STAY AT HOME AND GET MORE SATISFACTION PLAYING MY OWN RECORDS THIS IS MAINLY DUE TO THE FACT THAT WITH THE GREATEST RESPECT TO ALL MY FRIENDS MOST LOCAL SOUL NIGHTS ARE TO MUCH THE SAME IN THAT THEY PLAY THE SAME STUFF ALL THE WHILE I HAVE RANTED ON ABOUT THIS SITUATION FOR YEARS AND THE POLICY GOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS IF YOU OWN A 100 TOP TUNES YOU GET A DJ SPOT IF YOU OWN AND TRULY COLLECT SOUL MUSIC FOR THE THE PASSION OF THE RECORD NO MATTER THE PRICE YOU DONT GET TO PLAY THEM OR WORSE BY A LOAD OF REISSUE STUFF AND CALL YOURSELF A SOUL BOY/GIRL I WANT TO HAVE NIGHTS LIKE IN THE BEGINING THAT IT WAS EXCITING TO BE THERE AND WANT TO TRY AND OWN SOME OF THE RECORDS YOU HERED ON THE NIGHT I HAVE SPOKEN TO PETE SMITH ABOUT THIS AS THERE ARE NO REAL SOUL NIGHTS THAT CATOR FOR THE LIKES OF MYSELF ANY MORE I AM 57 NOT 27 THEM DAYS ARE OVER FOR ME I CAN JUST MAKE IT TO KEELE 3 TIMES A YEAR AND THAT TO IS NOT AS WELL SUPPORTED BY THE WEST MIDLANDS CROWD UNLESS YOU CALL 15 A REPRESENTATION I DONT LETS MAKE THINGS HAPPEN AND NOT JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT AND MISS DAVE KIL

You could go to an all-niter but only stay soul nite hours...

You get in £2 cheaper in the first hour at Rugby, so still a good deal.

we do rugby anyway & if i do a nighter i stay till the end. as i said , i like nighters but not every week . it,s about the scene in and around the black country .

Don't worry Mart I have some news about USOS and will be putting a thread up later.

Sharon

I will be looking out for the news on USOS Sharon me & Mart really enjoyed the last one.

JB xxxKTFxxx

Don't worry Mart I have some news about USOS and will be putting a thread up later.

Sharon

bloody marvellous 2 venues i enjoy going to on the same night 5 miles away from each other . i give up

mart .. wheres that rope ?

Hiya Mart & JB

The thread about USOS is now up in events, what a nightmare, I am sorry that it clashes with the Stables, but even if it had still been at Holmes Chapel it would have been on the same night it's just unfortunate that we had trouble with the original venue and ended up down your way. Anyway Mart please don't be buying any ropes I know we clash this time but at the moment USOS is sort of homeless which also gives us the chance to play around with dates although as you know it's nearly impossible not to clash with another do along the way especially in the Midlands. We are still looking for another permanent venue at the moment.

Hope your not too disheartened, give the Sunflower a try the music is brilliant there as well.

Sharon

What's this warwick do like?

Used to live in Knowle , which is not far away, now in Berkshire, but its on the main chiltin line..

Mal

Hiya Mart & JB

The thread about USOS is now up in events, what a nightmare, I am sorry that it clashes with the Stables, but even if it had still been at Holmes Chapel it would have been on the same night it's just unfortunate that we had trouble with the original venue and ended up down your way. Anyway Mart please don't be buying any ropes I know we clash this time but at the moment USOS is sort of homeless which also gives us the chance to play around with dates although as you know it's nearly impossible not to clash with another do along the way especially in the Midlands. We are still looking for another permanent venue at the moment.

Hope your not too disheartened, give the Sunflower a try the music is brilliant there as well.

Sharon

no probs sharon, i know how difficult it is ,when we ran the double deckers i made sure there was,nt anything else local on that night apart from a motown nite ,& within 3 months there were 5 venues running within 8 miles of us , so i gave up & just after so did the other 4 venues .

mart

Edited March 12, 200916 yr by kerby

What's this warwick do like?

Used to live in Knowle , which is not far away, now in Berkshire, but its on the main chiltin line..

Mal

ask phil richards

mart

no probs sharon, i know how difficult it is ,when we ran the double deckers i made sure there was,nt anything else local on that night apart from a motown nite ,& within 3 months there were 5 venues running within 8 miles of us , so i gave up & just after so did the other 4 venues .

mart

Forgot you used to do that Mart my memory isn't what it used to be plus all this over the past couple of months is making it worse (well that's my excuse anyway ). This is what happens though, we have stuck through clashes etc which can't be helped most of the time and carried on going we do have really good supporters though and we do really appreciate their support.

I really hope you find something that you like.

Sharon

Forgot you used to do that Mart my memory isn't what it used to be plus all this over the past couple of months is making it worse (well that's my excuse anyway ). This is what happens though, we have stuck through clashes etc which can't be helped most of the time and carried on going we do have really good supporters though and we do really appreciate their support.

I really hope you find something that you like.

Sharon

hi sharon,

big shame you had to clash and so close!! well myself,ted massey,kenny onions,phil richards & sue are all

just 4mile down the road dj'ing at "brookfields" so i'm afraid thats our support gone for this one!!

max..

hi sharon,

big shame you had to clash and so close!! well myself,ted massey,kenny onions,phil richards & sue are all

just 4mile down the road dj'ing at "brookfields" so i'm afraid thats our support gone for this one!!

max..

I know Max our do had been booked along with the dj's in the middle of last year which is why we are sticking with our dates, your support was and is really appreciated along with everyone else, unfortunate on this occasion.

Anyway think we've gone a bit off topic so apologies for that, see you all soon.

Sharon

Why didn't you ask about getting an allnighter at the stables that night and running the 2 venues together

Des

Edited March 13, 200916 yr by SOUL.INC

we do rugby anyway & if i do a nighter i stay till the end. as i said , i like nighters but not every week . it,s about the scene in and around the black country .

Oops, sorry but you did put Midlands. PS, thanks for the use of the fotos 4 the cd cover.

Why didn't you ask about getting an allnighter at the stables that night and running the 2 venues together

Des

what a superb idea des , but i dont think the lifeline boys would appreciate it . would,nt it be a cracking night .

mart

Edited March 13, 200916 yr by kerby

Oops, sorry but you did put Midlands. PS, thanks for the use of the fotos 4 the cd cover.

as you know i had to do the last winsford . so i hope you,ve saved me a cd . hint hint .

mart

as you know i had to do the last winsford . so i hope you,ve saved me a cd . hint hint .

mart

No worries, I'll have one on the door for you at the next Rugby at Easter...

Laughing here - black country - midlands - west midlands ... Spit & a kick as my dad used to say, meaning just down the road. I remember complaing to a Yank about the drive from here to Cornwall to which he replied "shit man we go that far for taco".

The difference is Simsy, you can drive 150 miles in the States and everything will be exactly the same at journey's end, as at the start. Imagine the difference say driving 150 miles north from London, different architecture, accents, character of people.etc. It's the same with soul........it does change from region to region and unless you pick your West midlands events carefully, you do get a diet of oldies in my experience.

I'll give a shout here for Creative soul in Wellingborough as trying something very different. And before anyone says it, Northants is officially in the East Midlands.

The difference is Simsy, you can drive 150 miles in the States and everything will be exactly the same at journey's end, as at the start. Imagine the difference say driving 150 miles north from London, different architecture, accents, character of people.etc. It's the same with soul........it does change from region to region and unless you pick your West midlands events carefully, you do get a diet of oldies in my experience.

You should read my Southern Northern Soul v Northern Northern Soul thread. I think we covered these points in there a couple of years back.

So the Midlands is fine but the West Midlands..

ok so perhaps i should have said the black country . or drew a map & as i travel every day to & from places all over the country the last thing i want to do on a friday & saturday is travel somewhere else . all im saying is some promoters in the ( black country ) are obviously out to make a fast buck . they have venues on every week and are catering for people who don,t have weddings to go to .

mart

Oooo you could get me in right trouble with this thread !!!

First thing - can't believe Bishop's Wood hasn't had a mention. Granted I've not been to every one, but when I have, the music has been somewhere between vg+ and excellent, in terms of "interesting & quality" playlists ( i.e. leaving out the played to death oldies & handbag fodder)

Second thing - If you take out the last few years there has been an almost unbroken line of succession of strong clubs within 20 miles of Wolves, playing a mix of current breaking tunes, unknown & lesser knowns, plus underplayed/interesting music, stretching back to the dawn of the scene. Tell me, were the playlists at venues like The Cats, Cavendish, Stafford, Wheatsheaf, Bilston Town Hall, Lea Manor (behind closed doors), to name but a few, full of played to death/wedding Motown & Handbag tunes? no, they blooming weren't ! Most clubs featured dj's from the very top drawer of the scene, either as regulars or guests, so local people who didn't do a great deal of travelling still got to hear all the big cover up's and regional sounds.

So this idea of the West Midlands being an "Always and Only Oldies area" is a false memory, perpetrated by people who have a reason to do so, and largely weren't there for best part of twenty odd years in the middle while the rest of us were out enjoying hearing new exciting tunes and wearing thin the soles of our favourite dancing shoes, keeping the scene going locally and nationally.

Third thing - Personally I think we got it really close to perfect in the area when we had a parallel system, with every friday nite giving the punters a choice of one 'Interesting' Rare Soul nite, and one Oldies nite ( I said Oldies, not handbag) This left the saturday nites free for a choice between going out of the area to a major Niter, or the odd few local Niters and soul nites of both types.

The beauty of this system was that people travelled into the area and supported these clubs because it was worth it, as both types of nite were worthwhile, musically and atmosphere/crowd wise. The extra bodies meant promoters weren't always out of pocket, and meant the nites could be run on a more professional level. One problem now is that people are not political enough, and want their clubs to be all things to all men, with a foot in both camps, playing handbag and rarities/newies at the same club. It's my belief that this just makes largely unhappy punters, which is why so many clubs eventually fail. For every vocal complainer there's often another twenty, thirty or forty sitting around the tables looking glum, deciding "I'll give it one more try, then I'm not coming back here". Across The Board never meant 'let's play five hours of cheap handbag tunes and played out 'classics' and throw in two newies/rarities to justify the adverts", it was a term to describe the mixing of all styles of rare soul/northern soul/ modern soul, excluding anything hugely popular on the scene from 1979 or before.

Instead, people should be shouting from the rooftops "Our club only plays proper Oldies" "Our club only plays Handbag" or "Our Club plays Interesting Quality Rare Soul & won't play Handbag", whatever. That way folk can rally to support the clubs playing their favourite style of music. I know I'm making generalisations here, but usually handbag fans get very irate when dj's play something from outside of their musical orbit and give the promoters & dj's grief. The only difference between those fans and the fans of Interesting/Connoiseurs/ATB Rare soul is that these rare people tend to complain less, they just quietly leave and don't come back. Either way, people want what they want, and are now too long in the tooth to put up with spending time not enjoying themselves.

Fourth Thing - There is a way to have a healthy (non Oldies or Handbag) club scene in the area. There is room for four regular friday clubs and one special only every 3 months friday nite club, which truthfully need to be run by different people. It requires selfless people to organise it. The nites need to be run by people who understand the need to involve all the local collectors & dj's, and each weeks club needs to have its own flavour ( let's say one is a bit more late 60's crossover, one a bit more early 60's/r'n'b /popcorn, one a bit more 60's super rarities, one a bit more 70's for example) but with enough common ground so it feels like part of a whole.

I think it was Des Parker who summed it up one time, he said if you get 25-30 local dj's and tell them if they support the club each month, they will get a chance to get up on the decks & share their tunes 1,2,3 or 4 times a year, depending on their status/records/ability etc, Lea Manor was a bit like this. If each of these 25-30 bring along 1 or 2 people you've got the basis of strong healthy clubs, that other non dj's. and people from further afield would want to attend. I'm not saying it's impossible to run local clubs with resident dj's, just that it gets more difficult each time a new venue starts. If you're a rare soul enthusiast who likes to get up on the decks and share some tunes (i.e. a potential dj) and you know one club has 72 spots open to the likes of you a year, as opposed to a club that only has one spot open for guests each month, because the other spots are full of residents, then assuming the quality of the music and all other factors are similar surely you're more likely to support the 72 one?

Maybe you need one or two residents to ensure continuity? or 3 if it's a Niter? either way to make this idea work you need at least five, preferably six open spots, at least 45 mins long (better if it's an hour) so nites which run 8 til12 are never gonna offer enough. Is it really that hard to get a 1.30 or 2 o'clock club?

Last Thing - Most of us want a good local club to support (maybe every week is too much for some people?) trouble is convincing the reluctant like dthedrug that what your club has to offer is worth the effort. Word of mouth is always the best convincer, but if I bump into him this saturday morning up Bilston Market which clubs would I tell Dave he really must come to every time they are on? Which clubs would you tell him he really shouldn't miss ?

and finally. If we went back to that golden period of just one good oldies and one good non-oldies club every friday I know I'd want to breakout every so often & attend the good oldies club maybe four times a year, because although I believe in keeping moving forward, sticking to the original blueprint of northern soul, I still enjoy Classic Oldies, just not all the time and a 48 to 4 split in favour of interesting, underplayed, new, groundbreaking, different and just downright forgotten never was's seems about fair.

oh and by the way, just because you weren't around when it was written is no excuse for not knowing that a Classic Oldie that's rare by quantity doesn't qualify as Rare Soul in the Black Country Northern Soul Definitions Bible, as kept by the Black Country Soul Moles, circa 1981.

see I told you you were gonna get me in trouble .....

purist

you can add the laffayette to the list many a new tune got played by soul sam and pep before the first play at the casino

the way forward imo is to have 2/3 residents with decent collections

well writen

purist

What's handbag? Heard it banded about by a few but I'm a bit behind on them there new fangled terms like?

Im confused every week we try to support our local venues but im getting bored . most of my freinds tend to travel out of the midlands to get away from the commercial motown & overplayed culture that seems to be thriving here . . im not talking about mega rare stuff just underplayed tracks that fill the dance floors anywhere else . there are only a hand full of local venues that i really enjoy but of late they have been very quiet .

I love nighters but don,t want to do them every week ............so what,s wrong ?

mart ( kerby )

I left!

What's handbag? Heard it banded about by a few but I'm a bit behind on them there new fangled terms like?

don,t start on that 1 again it,s been done . but just for you when you go to a family wedding or party theres allways a group who dance round there handbags to commercial motown or the local wedding djs idea of northern soul . ok . so we tend to label venues that don,t realy stray to far off the track musically .( handbag nights .)

mart

Edited March 13, 200916 yr by kerby

Oooo you could get me in right trouble with this thread !!!

First thing - can't believe Bishop's Wood hasn't had a mention.

hiya john when i started the thread iwas,nt singling out any venues . if i had put the ones i enjoy on here someone would have made an issue out of it so i left them out on purpose . so while im on i,ll say bishops wood is an excelent night we,ve been going from day 1 but it,s one of the local nights that does,nt get the support it deserves . we could go down many routes here but that not the point of this thread . going back to the start i was pointing out that the venues that stick to what you know are allways full of punters so the same promoters put on another 2 or 3 venues on in the month to cater for them . so instead of those same punters comming to a venue like bishops wood they are not , so djs like yourself with awsome collections (dare i say original vinyl ) are playing to half empty rooms with little or no atmosphere

mart ( kerby )

Edited March 13, 200916 yr by kerby

christ almighty, cant believe what I,m reading

huh huh

Edited March 14, 200916 yr by JELLYBEAN

huh huh

Edited March 14, 200916 yr by JELLYBEAN

christ almighty, cant believe what I,m reading

i realy must learn to look & see if jellybeans logged on my computer before i post . anyway . come on lou lets have it im sure you,ve got something to say & i did,nt mention the sunflower rooms because it,s in birmingham . ( by the way i only started this thread coz i was bored on thursday night & had my mischievious head on )

mart

Edited March 14, 200916 yr by kerby

the sunflower, not bothered,its there for people who want it, not for everybody,s cup of tea, its just when you have been around as long as me,and thats over 30 years, its just the same old same old being regurgitated over and over again, find me a venue in wolves, I,l put a venue on for ya, with the right DJ,s, if you are that fed up, you have to follow the music, I do,and if that makes me a snob, so be it, I really dont care, all I know is that I moved on a long time ago, purist makes a really good post, and the way I see it, somebody once told me and he,s right the northern soul scene is TRIBAL, and oh how right he is, I read I look I see, that its split into little fractions of people who all DJ for each other etc etc etc, it,s the In crowd, for some people, not the tunes they have or the knowledge they have acquired, or for some, they dont even care if you play boots etc,I find your post about the Oakley dance floor amazing, great dance floor, I,m not sure what you are looking for , dance floors are a dying breed these days,most newer clubs dont have a big dance floor, its about drinking at the bar, soon dance floors will be thing of the past as in the 50,Ts hey day of rock and roll etc, they dont want you to dance they want you to drink, its not viable to put a dancefllor in these day,s , or put a small one in rarther than a large one! we have supported most of the clubs in the west midlands over a period of many years, we support alot of venues all over the place, yes like many others, I have my favorite, nothin wrong with that, you pay your money and you make your choice, we should all know by now what to expect from a venue, you can tell by who the DJ,s are that are booked, or even who the promoters are, if you want an oldie nite then choose, if you want a underplayed, which is a term I am not keen on then choose, if you want rarer then choose, I choose, there is a big wide northern scene out there, and there is something for all tastes in music, lets make the best of it, how long will it continue, who knows, but what i will say, is in the midalnds like any other town is a wealth of dj,s with awesome collections, who dont play out when really they should, who choose to not go out any more , which is a crimnal shame,and if I can get them out, I would gladly book them,no problems there, like I say,I know a good dj, and I know a good tune,and if you put another photo up of me, revenge is a supper best eaten cold I always have my camara with me

ask phil richards

mart

Thanks

the sunflower, not bothered,its there for people who want it, not for everybody,s cup of tea, its just when you have been around as long as me,and thats over 30 years, its just the same old same old being regurgitated over and over again, find me a venue in wolves, I,l put a venue on for ya, with the right DJ,s, if you are that fed up, you have to follow the music, I do,and if that makes me a snob, so be it, I really dont care, all I know is that I moved on a long time ago, purist makes a really good post, and the way I see it, somebody once told me and he,s right the northern soul scene is TRIBAL, and oh how right he is, I read I look I see, that its split into little fractions of people who all DJ for each other etc etc etc, it,s the In crowd, for some people, not the tunes they have or the knowledge they have acquired, or for some, they dont even care if you play boots etc,I find your post about the Oakley dance floor amazing, great dance floor, I,m not sure what you are looking for , dance floors are a dying breed these days,most newer clubs dont have a big dance floor, its about drinking at the bar, soon dance floors will be thing of the past as in the 50,Ts hey day of rock and roll etc, they dont want you to dance they want you to drink, its not viable to put a dancefllor in these day,s , or put a small one in rarther than a large one! we have supported most of the clubs in the west midlands over a period of many years, we support alot of venues all over the place, yes like many others, I have my favorite, nothin wrong with that, you pay your money and you make your choice, we should all know by now what to expect from a venue, you can tell by who the DJ,s are that are booked, or even who the promoters are, if you want an oldie nite then choose, if you want a underplayed, which is a term I am not keen on then choose, if you want rarer then choose, I choose, there is a big wide northern scene out there, and there is something for all tastes in music, lets make the best of it, how long will it continue, who knows, but what i will say, is in the midalnds like any other town is a wealth of dj,s with awesome collections, who dont play out when really they should, who choose to not go out any more , which is a crimnal shame,and if I can get them out, I would gladly book them,no problems there, like I say,I know a good dj, and I know a good tune,and if you put another photo up of me, revenge is a supper best eaten cold I always have my camara with me

mart

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Edited March 15, 200916 yr by kerby

I have found a venue for Rare and underplayed but its in wolverhampton