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Was thinking of having a bid on this but that price is ridiculous. How on earth is that disc worth so much of someone's money? As far as OVO goes - it's not really any more OVO than a Grapevine 45 f.f.s. I bet this thread got them all mad to bid on it :lol: Cheers Richard

Sure Kris - but this is a bootleg/counterfeit discussion thread, not a legit lookalike thread Over and out

Sure - but my point was that is why it's difficult to tell some of these 45s apart - because they are designed to confuse - surely they will all be bootlegs, but not all counterfeits (i.e. one's that look totally different to originals)? Richard

These are counterfeits - designed to deceive!!! Bootlegs are unlicensed use of an artists material The terms are widely misused, especially on the rare soul scene Cheers Richard

Here's one now - aaaarrgghh - please someone lock it :@

Not all of the RCAs have the issue rarer than the demo. Cheers Richard

Agreed that a camera would not pick up this easily. It took me a couple of minutes with a hand-lens (the type used for botany) to pick it up in sufficient light and detail to see what it was. It is in hand-written script - so I can also see how it could be thought of as 3 x 'W's Pete. First 'W' correct way up and in the top left. Directly below that, and touching it, is an upside down 'W'. Directly to the right of these two, and basically twice the size (so it runs along the whole height of the two 'W's stacked on top of each other) is a 'W' on it's side. This one faces so that the bottom of the 'W' is to the left - so it looks a bit like an 'E'. So it could be 3 x 'W's - or the WC on top of an MC that I described above. I could draw it but I'm not sure how to without lots of hassle Cheers Richard

Hi Dave I have an Eddie Parker white DJ copy here. Looking at the A-Side there is a raised ARCHER stamp at around 9 O'clock. At around 8 O'clock there is 95 scratched in. At 7 O'clock there is what you call the "3 'W''s" scratched in. I have had a hand lens on this and it actually looks like 'WC' with the 'W' scratched through, and then underneath that there is ' MC'(so it is like a block of two letters on top of two letters - like a 2 x 2 matrix) - bit like this below but I think the 'W' has a line through it and there is less of a gap between the two rows as the numbers basically meet: WC MC Then at around 10 O'clock it says A1-A. All the scratch marks are fine and quite feint. Hope that helps mate. Been straining my eyes with the hand lens and now I have a slight headache Cheers Richard

I watched it again after seeing it at Leicester Square with a non-soulie mate when it first came out.. Can't remember what I said on here then, but on the small screen it came across like a poorly put together, low-budget affair. The acting was not particularly good either. Was not impressed by the standard of the dancing in the movie, and even the Wigan out-takes weren't the best bits. There were more cringe-worthy bits in the film than I remember. Get's everyone talking though Cheers Richard

No - me too But I do like the Bernie Moore on Lark Cheers Richard

That Sonny Childe is a top class proper Northern record IMO Cheers Richard

I can do you sound files of both sides if you don't already have them mate I'm "Such A Lonely Guy" is the better more 'northern' side Cheers Richard

Thanks guys I love the label name Perma-Hit - reminds me of Perma-Frost - but a great concept - a permanent hit ... Keep Looking (But I Guess I'll Never Find Him) is a totally charming girl group record. Shame not more is known about the group - nevertheless, thanks for the info folks Cheers Richard

How this has descended into the usual!!! Anyway, who is collating and ranking this lot of suggestions (not me) here are my off the top of my head thoughts ... EDDIE PARKER - I'M GONE RITA & TIARAS - GONE WITH THE WIND (IS MY LOVE) (DORE) BUDDY SMITH - WHEN YOU LOSE THE ONE YOU LOVE (BRUTE) WILLIE TEE - WALKING UP A ONE WAY STREET (THE WRONG WAY) (NOLA/ATLANTIC) J.J. BARNES - PLEASE LET ME IN (RIC-TIC) WILLIE KENDRICK - CHANGE YOUR WAYS (RCA VICTOR) SALVADORS - STICK BY ME BABY (WISE WORLD) C.O.D.s - SHE'S FIRE (KELLMAC) FRANK BEVERLEY & BUTLERS - IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED (SASSY/GAMBLE) Cheers Richard

I'm confused now - did Cecil Washington actually sing lead vocal on the released version of IDLTL or was he just credited on the label as the singer? Cheers Richard

Recently picked this up. A copy of the Perma-Hit release in a sleeve with (presumably) original period scribble which says: "Vanessa Henley, leader of the Sharp-ette's [mis-spelling according to group name on label]. Henry Smith Jr. is the manager. 8981911." Cheers Richard Click on the image below to see it full size

Interesting comments - thanks guys I also like the other side "He's Gonna Break Your Heart" very mice mid-tempo 'street level' Detroit girl group sound. I just recorded this and loaded it up on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/user1502162/sequins-hes-gonna-break-your Cheers Richard

Been watching this one on eBay. Sequins - Try My Love (The Detroit Sound) https://cgi.ebay.co.u...c#ht_500wt_1414 Seems expensive for what basically looks like a VG copy - USD $1,436.00 (approximately GBP £908.06) 13 bidders and 22 bids - quite high for an eBay auction. Brilliant record nevertheless. Cheers Richard

Dreadful??????

Nice one Chalky - never had one of those when they were done - many thanks Excellent stuff Cheers Richard

Jive talk by the Gambrells wanted....................Cheers I didn't reply to this originally because it didn't say please - call me old fashioned but common courtesy cost nothing. Richard

Yes, not too expensive. Medium I would say in terms of hardness to pick up as far as Magic City stuff goes. Also done by Cynthia & Imaginations on same label. Cheers Richard

Hi Chalky - not me mate - sorry - not worked out how to do that yet Cheers Richard

Hi all Dean's Fabulous show is on again tonight 7-9pm Special guest tonight is Gilly for a 2nd guest slot! Tune in now folks (Dean will be in the studio in a bit so don't be put off by the non-Northern stuff being played to fill in ). Cheers Richard

Best format IMO is the Revilot white DJ copy. Cheers Richard