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HI ALL...SAD NEWS....RIP LOU PRIDE DAVE K

HI ALL...SAD NEWS....RIP LOU PRIDE DAVE K

Hi All I touch on the subject of how much the original copies of the BLUES & SOUL monthly Magazine was fetching on RJM (John Manship) MANSHIPS SITE, As discussed many times over the years, John has a knack of setting the bench mark for sales at all time highs, this ain't a problem, as with GLOBEL and other well established well run shops that sell the best. They have to work hard to make a profit, even more these Days, So MANSHIPs have the reputation of whatever you buy, you are making an investment, in the very best quality that they can find, of Items that are rare and Pricey even in a VG Condition, and John comments on every thing he auctions, has it;s own cult following, (well it has with me Johnny Boy) However I really would like to no what John thinks about the prices that gave been achieved for the copies that have been already auction, and what you think, As the price has risen, what would the insurance valuation of the 1st 23 copies? as there are still more to come I can only make a guesstimate of £3K. Also my search for #2 is over & with John selling a copy for £193, make me shudder at what all my papers mags Posters and other rare soul memorabilia is worth? maybe John could give us a update on rare Northern Soul related collect ables, as the prices can only get higher, and so far even the best repro, are easy to tell from original items (am I being a bit Naive about this},, Any way before I finish, I hope John does reply, as a guide to how he sees the future of this area ASALWAYS DAVE K

Hi All Thanks for this update on advice already given, If you notice on my postings, I try to give the record info, rough value, and the reason of why I picked the 45, as normally I play at least 10 records daily, in that selection, I try to justify why I would like to post as my pick of the day, which can be 1 of a myriad reasons? Personally anyone can use the YOU LIKE box or as you say, give a written reply. if the PRBLEM persists I will start the thread again on the 21st June which was the planned date or I can bring it forward, just PM if that would be the preferred answer to resole this, problem, For all of you who make this a popular thread, please continue with your selections of great 45s that in my opinion makes this thread a #1 winner as every 10 records that go on the site the selection is so eclectic compared to other soul lists, It would make a great series of VA Cd's to promote the site & SOULSOURCE As Always DAVE

HI Sorry about the Stevenage thing, are we talking about raining glass at the MECCA, or 14 days of gang fighting in the MECCA at the TIMES CLUB then in the LONGSHIP and the fight at JIFFYS HOT DOG WAGON OPPERSIT THE BOWLING ALLY, When I got a wicked kick in by GONZALIS AND 50 STEVENAGE BOOT BOYS? AND MY BROTHER TOOK THEM ALL ON?? You are right about the C&W aspect of the label, and BABARA MILLS was a white C&W SINGER, so was CHARLIE ROMAN, But the close link between 60s SOUL & C&W is hard to get your head around this side of the pond, as DIXYLAND consists of many ethnic groups and it shows if you follow each ethnic region, as you are aware there is a spine that runs from Louisiana Kentucky up to CANAD where the people still use french as the 1st language the music is french style Cajun, great stuff, then you have the black music that become known as ragtime our main man was SCOTT JOPLIN, he wrote opera's aimed at DIXY, of course you had the work songs that were called hollows, this form had a lead voice shouting out instructions and getting a response, work songs very similar were sung in the UK, FAITH SONGS were there for the poor, again with a vocal leader singing the gospel, eventually turning into gospel as we now no it, the BLUES has no real starting time, but it was WC HANDY who preached the hardships that effected everyone which in turn was influence followers of JOPLIN & HANDY but with the E chord being the BOSS as the musicians tried to follow the lead instrument as went up and down the E chord like a snake, normally it was a trumpet or piano leading but the sax was also in this fusion mix of E with it's razz a ma tazz, we call JAZZ,, HILLBILLY MUSIC turned itself when mixed with trad folk music into COUNTRY, WHICH WHEN MIXED WITH BLUES turned into ROCKABILLY LATER ROCK & ROLL, When mixed with GOSPAL and put in the hands of RAY CHARLES YOU HAD YOUR 1ST SOUL record WHAT I SAY, and when Sam Cook and Jackie Wilson sung BERRY GORDY invented MOTOWN, THAT WAS SO HUGE, EVEN THE WHITE LADIES TRIED TO SING IT IN NASHVILE, JUST LIKE BABARA did when she sung QUEEN OF FOOLS, Or something along them lines DAVE

HI ALL... The CHOSEN FEW, were a vocal group, who found fame almost by accident, they were so good and crisp, with a sharp dress style, and very much into soul, their mentor was Derrick HARRIOTT 'The Chariot', who cut some nice soul songs in the early 1960s, under the Chariots guidance they did cover version of US CHART SOUL,from 1970 -73 they hit the JA charts with:- your a big girl now, do your thing melting pot, and the SUADHEAD TOP TUNE...SHAFT, That is just as good as the CHEFS, can be easy obtained for under £5 on the SONG BIRD LABEL,Group members FRANKLYN SPENCE, ERROL BROWN, & BUSTY BROWN. MOST OF DERRICK HARRIOTT WORK IS GOOD, BUT SOME IS NOT? The PYE group? were YANKS, WHO DID THE FOOTSIE? ON ROULETTE, DAVE

HI ALL This is my pick of the month? it's taken me a long time to get this one? and what a great 2 sider it is, as always I like to play the obscure or hard to find, this fits into that groove, FONTANA TF736 - FRIDAY BROWN - 32nd LOVE AFFAIR - 1966, and in my opinion a great bit of NORTHERN SOUL, value ?? who cares I got it now DAVE K SO ROLL BACK THE CARPET (DE) THIS IS A PROPER GOODIE https://youtu.be/IyJrPqJfHpY

HI ALL It really is a rare one, but if I had to chose a rare POLYDOR DEMO, It would be JAMO THOMAS - I SPY, FOR THE FBI, I have never owned either, so it's just a personal choice, but which is the rarest? Just read this thread again, and if I am right about Canada as the pressing plant, just as a reminder, if Ranking John remarks about Bootlegs is right, we are talking about a place nearly as far away from Detroit as the UK? Canada on the other hand is inches away, and remember in the STATES a hit record is based on 1st a local hit, 2nd what the septics call a national breakout, so RJM is talking pre NB, and then that makes sense of my CANADIAN press answer? also I can almost guarantee that the RIO COPY was not released at the same time as the RIC-TIC COPY, as we would expect the whole RIC-TIC catalog to have been issued on RIO? does that make sense, the record either way legit or boot, was pressed on the other side of the Atlantic, the USAF supplied the US FORCES with every thing they needed, plus it got a GERMAN RELEASE so why bootleg it, as PETE STATED a great record but very cheap, with the 1 exception, DAVE

PETE I WAS INTERESTED IN THE RONNETTES? BUT YOU ARE NOT TAKING MY MESSAGES?? WHY?

HI A VERY GOOD POINT MADE, my Son very good point. I will put it right thanx DAVE

Saturday, 2 June 2012 ENDED 24 HOUR AD, HAVE A FEW MORE, TO ADD, WHEN THIS ONE ENDS, £í¢"š¬í¢"š¬ AUCTION FINISHED, STILL HAVE TRADES DAVE DtheDRUG, LIST#1. AS A COLLECTOR FOR OVER 40 YEARS - ANY THING I SELL ON THIS SITE, IS AIMED TO GIVE YOU SOUL SELF SATISFACTION, HOPEFULLY ALL ITEMS ARE GRADED AND IN KEEPING WITH MJ RECORDS & PLANET RECORDS, IN OTHER WORDS FAIR & REALISTIC IN PRICE & CONDITION, I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE TRADES, FOR THE 35 RECORDS NEEDED TO COMPLETE MY UK SOUL COLLECTION, P&P MUST BE ADDED URGENT WANTS ARE:- 1. JERRY COOK - HURT ON THE OTHER SIDE - CAPITAL 5981 2, ACTION RECORD LABEL #4507, 4508, 4518 BLACK, 4528, & 4623 Must be on ACTION, BEST OFFER:- I HAVE A NICE FRENCH STATESIDE COPY OF:- PERCY MILEM - CRY CRY CRY B/W CALL ON ME - EX great record (Twisted Wheel Biggie) offers, UK 45's - DEALERS STOCK PACK - SELL - TRADE or SWAP 60s 1. STATESIDE - SS503 ISSUE VG+ Little Richard - baby don't you want a man like me - great dancer. 2. STATESIDE - SS489 ISSUE EX- COD's - Micheal - (classic) 3. STATESIDE - SS2126 ISSUE VG+O'kaysions - girl watcher - WHEEL CLASSIC (hair lip) 4. CORAL - Q.72489 ISSUE MINT- the YOUNG HOLT TRIO - WACK WACK - (MOD Club classic) 5. SOUL CITY - SC111 MINT- Packers - go ahead on - (West coast FUNK) 6. SOUL CITY - SC102 MINT- NOC/WOL -GENE CHANDLER - NOTHING CAN STOP ME - (All time great) 7. SOUL CITY - SC116 MINT- CHUCK BROOKS - BLACK SHEEP - (Superb 2 nice soul sides, rare on US) 8.SOUL CITY - SC107 MINT- BILLY PRESTON - Greeze - (classic inst} 70s 1. TORPEADO - TOR 52 = DEMO - JODY MOWETT - CRY TO ME. MINT- £5 2. CRYSTAL - CR 7014 - DEMO - INVITATIONS - (2 NICE REGGAE TUNES) £5 3. BLUEBIRD - BR 6 - GERRY TREW - DEEPER (2 CLASSIC SIDES) £6 4. ELECTRA - K 12559 - DONALD BYRD - LOVING YOU (2 CLASSIC SIDES) £10 5. ELECTRA - K 12514 - GROVER WASHINGTON - MAKE ME A MEMORY, (QUALITY XOVER) £20 This list of records will be on offer for 24 hours only, email dthedrug@hotmail.com I will get back to you after the 24 hours, so I can see all offers, AS ALWAYS DAVE,

HI ALL.... PLEASE DON'T HAVE AGO AT PETE? What I think he meant was a load of crap come out on the SUE label and he overlooked this one? In fact as a UK Collector as I am, so is Pete come to think of it? how did you forget that it got a UK release on SUE Pere?? As a UK Collector the one in my collection looks like this, and is a wee bit more rarer than the SUE issue? don't you think, I don;t think I have ever seen this listed? it was a true junk shop find, way before computers & EBay, value of it would be nice, I would say about £50 but could well be £100 out DAVE IS IT ROCK N ROLL?

HI ALL LETS START AT THE START?????????/ 1. GENE LATTER SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE 2. BILLY HARNER WHAT ABOUT THE MUSIC, 3. CAPITOLS COOL JERK AND BLA BLA BLA BBBLLLL BLA UP TO JOE HICKS DONT IT MAKE YOU FEEL FUNKY? I COULD HAVE LISTED 5000 BUT BLA BLA BLA BBBBLLLAAAA DAVE

HI ALL Where do you start with artists like William Bell, it's only now and again that we stop and focus on all the stuff that is constantly entering a head, through out our life times, so no wonder we all suffer from some sort of depression? and we do! So I put it to you all, William bells music is of such a high standard he shames his contemporaries, One of my 1st 45s was his ex tribute to a KING, & what a tribute, nothing has ever come close to the soul he sang for the Great Otis, (A must play to-day after reading this!) Then you have the duet, with Judy Clay, end of the night stuff, boozed up, and walking onto the dance floor and asking a decent SORT for a DANCE, every thing hinged on the answer, to be told no, meant shame, but back in them days girls wanted lifts home and not on the back of your LI150? PRIVATE NUMBER still gets played around the globe, for one reason only, it's a SOUL CLASSIC. Another true classic is HAPPY yet sadly most if not all of you first got a whiff of it on the rare soul scene, it goes to show, how lucky we all are to be part of the RARE SOUL SCENE, don't you think? Off course the younger ones who forced their way through the doors of WIGAN CASINO at the age of 15 to dance to JANES FOUNTAIN 7 DAY LOVER did not have a clue that William Bell was the main man, however they knew a good soul record when they heard one. The record that I can recommend to all of SOULSOURCE is the LP RELATING STS-5502,and sit down relax, get your breathing together "in through the nose & a gentle blow out through the mouth, get in-touch with your toes & relax to this great mans songs on the RELATING LP, ENJOY DAVE

:hatsoff2:HI ALL HERES A WHEEL CLASSIC (no I ain't got a hair lip?) the Belles - don't pretend, unreleased CASINO CLASSIC, Pretty rare I would say? what do you say?? [media=]

HI MART SORRY MATE THATS THE WRONG VERSION, RIGHT SONG, THE A&M SOUNDS A BIT LIKE GLEN MILLER i KID YOU NOT? DAVE

HI ALL This is with out doubt, one of the best records I have ever owned, it's a perfect example of a proper 100% northern dancer. if anyone disagrees please tell me, just listen to the backing vocals, my god when I look back at the records I used to own, and what they are worth today? classic, thanks for posting it DAVE, PS Any one got a copy to sell pm me for a 3 figure sum in cash?

HI THATS WHY I DON'T SELL ANYMORE? HOWEVER, my price is te real price any other price is based on demand, if you put anouther £5 on my prices would that be right, remeber the proper value is what a dealer pays not what you pay? have you got the BARINO BROS DEMO? £30 TO YOU SIR, ON OFFER FOR THE NEXT 30 MINS/

HI I JUST HAD ANOUTHER LOOK The Canadian pressings have 2 lines, this has 1, so your Germon Bootleg maybe right? bloody record, it aint worth Jack s**t anyway DAVE

HI PETE OH YES THEY WOULD, it's seems strange to us, but most of the demos have gone up in price, the BARINO BROS has sold for £50 on a DEMO in the last month. I have a spare if you want it? rarest by far is INV 501 I have only seen 1 other than mine and that's in MICKS RECORD ROOM? I sold the acetate of it last year, that was from MICK, Not sure what the value of this? ask MS. NICE RECORD,

Hi The UK Invictus Label is complicated to collect and FREDA PAYNE takes up the vast majority of releases, and BAND OF GOLD has 5 variations alone, on the INVICTUS LABEL, And at least 5 more on reissue labels, the gold copy on INFERNO looks great. your record use to sell for big money back in the 1970s, when it was revived by DAVE EVERSON? at the CASINO, Sadly it has lost it's demand, as most collectors have found it easy to get, the rarest is the original DEMO £50 - £100 orig issue £2.50, #533 reissue demo £10, #533 issue £5 my blank 1st issue DEMO £100+ if that help? DAVE

Hi All All I can add to my comments is this, back in the 70s, when I had a decent collection, I was lucky to have a job that bought me to be in touch with some of the top US SOUL STARS who toured the UK, and because of time spent with them, I learnt quite a lot of info, the RIC TIC LABLE was a favourite of Alexis Korner, and I remember one breakfast with him and Jimmy Helms talking about DETROIT, both were impressed by my knowledge of soul music (basic stuff to you lot) I am sure that it was Alexis who told me that many of Detroit records were pressed up in Canada, (the old brain teaser, if you are in Detroit and walk due South, what's the next country you land up in? Canada) so it's pressing plant is used, why not compare your DETROIT RECORDS with the RIO RECORDS and see if you have any examples of this, sadly I can't do this for you, About the lines on records, I worked with KOOL & the GANG, and they had their roots with ED KYSER, if you come across a copy of the SUPERLATIVES I STILL LOVE YOU with lines on comes from the same pressing plant, in Canada? DAVE

HI CHALKY Thanks for the reply, and I fully understand were you are coming from, and I for one hold yourself as a great ambassador for the RARE SOUL SCENE, and have benefited from your generous understanding of the meaning of SOULFULNES, and it is because of this I made my comments about the event being cancelled, Politics is not your BAG that's cool, but it would be a good thing if the Promoters of the events, that are still being run on that night, show some respect by acknowledging your actions, Also a few top DJs offering their services to ensure the event is packed out, As we all no UNITY is STRENGTH, I really hope that this event in 1 years time will be as popular as the 100 CLUB, It has every thing in place to get there? CHALKY YOU ARE A GOOD MAN, SO KEEP ON KEEPING ON DAVE K

HI CHALKY Thanks for the reply, and I fully understand were you are coming from, and I for one hold yourself as a great ambassador for the RARE SOUL SCENE, and have benefited from your generous understanding of the meaning of SOULFULNES, and it is because of this I made my comments about the event being cancelled, Politics is not your BAG that's cool, but it would be a good thing if the Promoters of the events, that are still being run on that night, show some respect by acknowledging your actions, Also a few top DJs offering their services to ensure the event is packed out, As we all no UNITY is STRENGTH, I really hope that this event in 1 years time will be as popular as the 100 CLUB, It has every thing in place to get there? CHALKY YOU ARE A GOOD MAN, SO KEEP ON KEEPING ON DAVE K

HI ALL I have been looking for the last hour for this record, but could only find the A side which is very decent, the Bside is a GLEN MILLER style version of a JAMAICAN HIT that is very poor compaired to the A&M CUT, But for now until I find it you will have to fall in love to the splended TOP SIDE, IF ANY ONE HAS THE B SIDE PLEASE POST IT UP FOR ME, A ***** 45 AMS7093 from 1971 A side SHOO-BE-DO I LOVE YOU, B side ILOVE YOU TRUE. [media=]