Kris Holmes

i disagree, some stuff just needs to be taken out of circulation, do the record world a favor

i bet it doesn't actually, doubt moerer or manship could remember thelast time they sold one.......

not northern soul, just a fairly standard white pop/rock sound. definitely not going to make your fortune off of this one i'm afraid. sorry for the bad news.

a lot of this stuff is just too slow & overproduced for me, i like my ballads to be in a more deep soul vein. in saying that though, the merry clayton track posted definitely has something.

just looked now at home, that's The Emotions "So I Can Love You", their biggest hit on Volt. Beautiful song.

on the memphis one or the hollywood one? i need to update flash here at work to watch it again but from memory.....in memphis there is The Emotions "So I Can Love You" (the track they are working the horn parts out for), the aforementioned Brook Benton cut, Booker T & The MGs "Time Is Tight", or do you mean something else?

watching the memphis one really makes me wish Cotillion hadn't smoothed out that Brook Benton track with strings & a chorus. It would be awesome if a rougher Fame take like in the video still existed somewhere. from that to this doesn't quite hit the same.

I always liked this one by minimalist composer Robert Wyatt "First of all, I am a real Minimalist, because I don't do very much. I know some minimalists who call themselves minimalist but they do loads of minimalism. That is cheating. I really don't do very much." - Robert Wyatt

yeah, i don't call them originals but I think some of these Venezuelan/Colombian presses go back to the 70s at least. Usually the price is right though to file them as a placeholder until you come across clean originals (which is more & more difficult these days). I kinda hate the later "palm tree" style Fania labels on them & as stated the flimsy vinyl & covers. I believe the Fania & Cotique titles are pressed from the masters while the Alegre & Tico ones tend to not be (& the sound varies with those as you'd expect). These days it seems the only way you're gonna easily find some of the great titles at affordable prices is on these Venezuelan presses or the recent reissues. (unless you live in NYC or Florida & are searching diligently or extremely lucky).

yeah, prosecution did not keep him out of the game for long

yep, but i am 100% certain he was pirating 78s for a while before then. Definitely out to test the waters a bit I would say.

ah, just found this snip on Jstor. According to the article piracy of records began in the late 1930s and early 1940s when collectors of jazz music began to pirate records that they wanted but were not being reissued. Not much was done to stop these pirates because of the great expense and difficulty of legal action. Pirates were almost impossible to track down because of their frequent address and name changing. The introduction of long playing records aided in the expansion of pirating. These records were cheaper to produce and thus made for more profiting. In the early 1950s bootleg records were being distributed nationwide. One of the major pirating operations was Paradox industries which formed in New York under a man named Dante Bollettino. He marketed his records under the label "Jolly Roger." He basically took over the piracy market. He even had his own place of business in New York City. Record companies made many attempted to stop these pirates. In 1952 a case known as The Columbia Paradox case, the record production company Columbia and Louis Armstrong filed a lawsuit against the bootlegging company Paradox Industries and their president Dante Bollettino. Columbia was successful and the case led to the introduction and passing of the Bennett Bill which made record pirating a criminal offense. Many jazz addicts and critics said that pirating was not unethical. They said that pirates were just providing a desired work of art to a small audience because the major record companies are not willing to reissue the records. The record companies on the other hand said that some records were pirated even though they were easily obtainable which means that records were not just being pirated on the basis that they were not being reissued. They also said that the pirates were only trying to make easy money by taking works that others had payed full price for. This article gives information about early piracy in a form of media that may not have been thought of as being pirated. It helps to explain where piracy started in the music industry and how companies dealt with this piracy which is important to my topic of how piracy has evolved through different forms of music and what was done to combat the copyright infringement.

A guy called Dino or Dante? Bendetti? (or something like that, an Italian name) was pirating Jazz 78s out of NYC as early as the 40s & setting them onto the collectors market. He was initially a collector himself & is listed in the International Jazz Record Collectors Guide/Address Book from the late 40s/early 50s. He got caught & prosecuted & had his records (both counterfeits & collection) destroyed. I believe he was going for a long time though, moving into LPs in the 50s. Would post more info but the magazines it is outlined in are deep filed somewhere at my work. I remember reading about it & thinking it was super early record piracy.

let the PM's begin.............

she gets covered in the excellent Rosetta Tharpe biography which came out a few years back. I always liked Marie Knight's take on "Cry Me A River".

Sweet, I will be back in NY buying 45s in April, this could be an evening distraction

I would look at Collectors Frenzy/Popsike first. But you have to use the data right. Maybe grab the median price & then go up or down until you find the closest to the median listing in the condition you have. Something like that. I mean you can analyze the hell out of any data. Misuse of Manship's prices, misuse of Soul Source prices etc. Remember, if you look at somewhere like Manship's site or Soul Source, those prices tend to be a touch high & you're not knowing really if that stuff is selling for the prices. Manship's price guide is kinda high too, keeping in mind it is for mint copies & includes GST. Current ebay listings, well you have no idea how long some crazily priced 45 has been sitting there rolling over, remember that stuff hasn't sold yet. Collectors Frenzy & Popsike are fairly incomplete with data coming & going all the time, but at least you see what things sold for. Remember though, it doesn't say whether or not the transaction was completed so will show high abnormalities which may have fallen through for whatever reason & not be reflective of a record's going rate. At the end of the day you'll probably do ok listing individuals auction style on ebay with 9.99 no reserve starting bids, let a market decide. Don't underestimate the power of a strong, well advertised no reserve auction list.

agree with what's been said above. if time is a factor, sell them in bulk to a reputable dealer. if you have the time to sell them individually yourself on whatever medium, then go that route. Hard to know though without knowing how many you are talking about. A small collection of 1000 or so is a different kettle of fish to a large collection of say 10000. When I got out of my 78 collection 10 years ago I had the time & patience to individually move them on ebay & got more than what Tefteller would have offered me for the lot. if you do sell them individually yourself be prepared to have a bunch of unsellables left over.

a rapid descent

don't think so. great movie, love the scenes at the start, so funny where Mac is all "f***k them kids" & then the bit where Jackson punches him out in his apartment, so funny.

i find myself playing the flip more at the moment, great double sided cheapie though

only the box, but as discussed above people are breaking up their box sets & selling the records individually on ebay.

this week's show https://www.ustream.tv/recorded/26896937

Pete S? or Brian K?

far out Lars, tell us how you really feel