Geeselad

the rest of detriot vs motown maybe a fairer battle.

mind you always wished I'd gone to bretby ( was that 9ts or the other side of the millenium?). and the 9ts must have been a bumper time for buying tunes.

I said the low point was the mid 9ts.

its perhaps a good opportunity to re- tell a tale I've heard told on the scene a couple of times; and ask if there's any truth in it? apologies in advance if its entirely fictional. 'local resident was playing a set at winsford nighter in the dark days of the mid 9ts. He played an acetate of one of Butch's exclusives, dubbed from a tape from one of his dj sets. Butch strolls over to the decks and as the tune is still playing takes the needle off the deck and walks back over to his sales box without saying a word.' if it is true, conna fault yer youth. was anyone there? can you confirm it? what was the tune?

fair enough, folk, just heard he lived over in that area, so assumed he had that was where he was from, conna kayp the dialect up four lung. just wondering why its called the neck end... https://www.thepotteries.org/six_towns/longton.htm

Onna sure lark, but ar thowt he were frim Olseerger, tinna hayven stowk, castle raylee. I conna tork thuw, thee coal us Biddlers wallybocs.

He did a cover of 'I cant please you' its on the mfp lp, not exactly northern but worthy of a listen. Excellent doc too, BB seems to be one of the few musicians that seem able to transend non secular and spiritiual music.

cant believe nobody has an opinion on this, are we too busy being dillusional about the brits?

personally I cant see how anyone involved in an underground scene can think that the blatant commercial exploitation of a subculture that's taken generations to evolve, or dissolve for that matter, can be a positive thing. 'happy' says nothing to me about the qualities of northern soul i appreciate. 'happy' is highly commercial pop written with children in mind, am I missing a connection here to the bittersweet refrains of the salvadors or lou pride?

got to raise this here, many of these by the very nature, are exclusively owned, in the original format, by one or two collectors, not all of whom play records out on a regular basis. deep breath here, but is it good for the scene that many of these tunes remain unheard by the mainstream northern crowd? not even sure of my own thoughts on this one a very thorny issue indeed! what about tape only finds? any of the top jocks own a reel to reel? sounds ludicrous but greg wilson takes one to all his sets to play his edits. it seems odd and equally ludicrous that some quirk of fate decides because there's no acetate of a particular recording we can play a recent issue of a track, but not if some had the foresight to cut an acetate (or two) at the time. As I said, not sure how i really feel about it myself, and certainly not trying to be provocative but would be interested on members thoughts.

has mr dobson got the only acetate of this then chalky? sad if its the case it deserves massive exposure.

derek martin- flashback, as good as eddie parker, imho, mastering is weak I know, but an awesome track. cant believe nobody's mentioned, charlie rich- dont tear me down either.

cant see itm but cant believe we've missed, Otis- loving by the pound. Jimmy ruffin- he who picks his nose, was massive, got hammered and pissed everyone off but is still brilliant in my book.

thats the fellow, did it have a cover up title as well?

its allready posted but, tammi terrell 'all i do' still tops my tree, and I cant bloody remember who does that ' you're the dream' track from stafford. any help?

just trying to make a point about how commercial sounding many of the songs from that era were, Betty Swan should of been a hit when it was released.

tis all to easy to forget the context, Four v's was played alongside this, Linda Lloyd, betty swan, Spinners- 'dont want to fall...' even Nolan Porter, lots of commercial sounding tunes around at the time as the scene became, ahem reinvigorated. Most I loved at the time, some sound shite now, but at least there were fresh plays in the main room.

thanks for clearing that up, wasn't sure when it happened

the mentality of hip hop diggers is so different, for them its all about the groove, collectability often doesn't figure.

suprised to see his name spelling- g a y e, I read it was actually, G a y, assuming he changed it by deed poll by 64.

not heard the most positive things, was told he's being taken to court over one of these packs.

electrical tape is the norm, you can cue the break that way, oh and you can remove it, doh!

I'm speachless and gutted, top character and very missed.

What I find interesting is how many after that Irma Routen? 10, 20, maybe 50 worldwide? you'd think they'd be a copy out there for everyone who wanted one really, at a decent price!

not many returnees buying oldies in the early 9ts at all, the demand was for current sounds back then, imho.