Wiggyflat

The same allnighter values of seeking out good American black dance records.........I will agree on that but I think the difference is that the uptempo sound is not a primary factor anymore and midtempo and ballads are programmed.Even the funk that is played now has more of a JB sound than a Chicago "Baby Boy" sort of sound.It was inevitable as you can't keep turning up uptempo never been played winners everyday which is why I'm looking for all the records that fell through the cracks.The turnover years ago was rapid and loads of good records were overlooked.I do find it ironic that the JB style funk that the northern scene was getting away from in the early seventies(played at London clubs like Crackers) has been taken on 30 plus years later and I feel that the northern soul scene is losing it's identity in the process.

Not picking you out I'm just using it to as an example to show the big gap between the rare soul and northern soul.

I did this one and then i did this one. Bearsy thought the first one was rubbish. This is the second one

"Todays scene?".Oldies nights are in reality "todays scene" as there's loads of them on every weekend an the biggest niter in the country is an oldies night.These are the nights that are packing them in.There's some good music being found now but in reality it can't be compared to the "Top 500 records".Rare Soul doesn't do it for me (most of it I find too slow and unexciting) as I'm more interested in collecting the underplayed oldies (uptempo) and the ones that slipped through the net.Good luck to Elaine's film but the news segment is exactly the type of potrayal that everyone was up in arms about on the Soulboy thread although I think they have the little details in clothing etc down to a tee.I enjoyed the Pete Waterman show.....he seems quite an amiable type of man. Maybe he should have used the word "working class" instead of "miners". ....maybe he could fund Elaine's film.By the way I posted a 90 minute youtube video of uptempo underplayed northern and Bearsy didn't like any of them so I came to the conclusion that he wasn't into northern just rare soul

Think I have Romey Carr's version somewhere.....from memory I always preferred the b side Stand Up And Fight

Went to Carter's Steam Fair recently and found these on the fairground rides....Great 1950's fair including Wall Of Death and Vintage machines and rides.

Great stuff Mark......we have very similar tastes in northern.Think you will have to put in full titles and tick some tag boxes if you want some exposure on youtube.Then again if it's for your own enjoyment don't bother.Don't know how but I manage to upload 90 minute mixes on my youtube channel wiggyflat.Keep em coming.

Pete Waterman has asked me to bump this to take the heat off him......

No no no....it's good IMHO

You called me...........I have heard that there is a rich celebrity claiming northern soul credentials in the area.I am working on behalf of the King Of Northern Soul to eradicate such individuals.....pray not tell me where this person dwells...I have heard that he is not a true keeper of the faith and we must hound him out as he is not a true believer.

I play The Wakefield Suns version of "Get Out" as a compromise.Good record without the slow intro.

This is dirty sleazy r and b....not northern soul.

Little Anthonys Better Use Your Head has always got my goat....was he singing with the aid of a helium balloon and taking gulps between verses.I know Pete it's one of your faves.....but I love Eddie Holman and he sings falsetto.

Just missed out on a US copy that Shifty had for sale...if you have one vg or better pm me with a price. Thanks

Was going to spin this last night...but forgot.Great record and cheap.

Here's my five pence worth 1.Employ at least one local deejay with good collections that have a reputation and will do legwork to promote it. 2.An uptempo ovo policy seems to work for me .....over 200 in last night but that's up to you.Try and be different.Don't try to be all things to all people or you may just end up with a night/nighter with no direction and all over the place with different factions of disgruntled people. . 3.Keep away from the summer holidays and try to avoid clashing. 4.Employ one big name deejay who can bring something to the party.....whatever people say Evison/Roberts/Winstanley can bring them in. 5.Utilise a local record shop for posters/tickets. 6.You will need a long run up for promotion.....5/6 months. 7.Look professional utilise ticketmaster etc but don't be fooled by pre sales unless you sell out. 8.Facebook........keep at it and maybe produce a little video of what you are about. 9.Keep the guestlist down and beg/borrow/steal equipment. 10.Hire of venue.......times are tight and drink is not selling as much as it used to which means you should get a good deal on a venue. 11.you can counteract number 4 by a rarer deejay pleasing both sides alike and getting 2 sets of people.This seems to have died off. 12.More is less these days....it's not 1975 with thousands of young kids with loads of energy.Keep it to 3 a year. 12.Don't sit on the toilet half an hour before wondering if anyone's going to turn up! Good luck

Alvin Cash and The Registers...Alvin was 10 and the registers were 5...and black.Apologies in reply to Dan Dares list....

There's over £500 in that little lot....I'm lucky as I can sell stuff that I have bought over the years from time to time to fund wants.If I was starting off I would buy cheap originals under the radar like this.Most boots won't go up but these probably will. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zI0nnDiFlg

First phase of Cleethorpes....good footage but they are dancing like Bionic men.Spins and backdrops.Wouldn't mind seeing it cleaned up and the right speed.There's some tv footage with some dancers on I have on video somewhere of 3 dancers from there doing balletic/russian rolls etc to The Champion (from early eighties)but I can't find it on youtube.Richard Searling,John Vincent and he shall not be named get interviewed a well. At 5.05 I remember this style of dancing very well.....includes a swallow dive, backdrop into half splits.Would put money on him being a northern dancer.Keb is in part 3 a few years before newies and Stafford. https://www.youtube.com/user/discoreview#p/a/u/1/dgjc-6L0Wm4

I was told by an oldtimer it started with copying the artists dancing....Major Lance and Sam And Dave's backdrops,Jackie Wilson's spins.Same as adopting the one leather black driving glove and the "northern soul fist".All American influenced.The acrobatics seem to have gone through different phases and styles from backdrops to handstands/russian rolls/ fast shuffling (Edwin Starr's Time.....wispy moustaches/wedges/peg trousers),knee drops and the balletic style on to throwing shapes Cleethorpes style (Oscar Romp still dances like this).The only acrobatics I see now are the Keb clones.Mr Sadot on here was known to bust a few moves.Remember him with hair at The Ritz hand springing (Caporeira style).Here's some footage from The Electric Ballroom London of the fusion dancers...not really northern style but a capsule of what dancing was going on outside the northern scene in 81 and there were a few people who did both especially in he north "Brothers in Jazz" who used to attend northern alldayers.

Northern Soul

Godoy Colbert-Baby I Like It Len Jewell-All My Good Good Lovin

Maybe there are deeper forces at work. Who started it...... People in crowds behave just like sheep, scientists claim, by blindly following one or two people who seem to know where they are going. Researchers at Leeds University believe their findings could have important applications, notably in the management of disasters. The team, led by Prof Jens Krause, conducted a series of experiments in which volunteers were told to walk randomly around a large hall without talking to each other. A select few were then given more detailed instructions. The results published today show that it takes a minority of just 5 per cent of what they called "informed individuals" to influence the direction of a crowd of a minimum of 200 people. The remaining herd of 95 per cent follow without realising it. "There are strong parallels with animal grouping behaviour," says Prof Krause, who reports the work with John Dyer in the Animal Behaviour Journal, with colleagues at the Universities of Oxford and Wales Bangor. "We've all been in situations where we get swept along by the crowd but what's interesting about this research is that our participants ended up making a consensus decision despite the fact that they weren't allowed to talk or gesture to one another. "In most cases the participants didn't realise they were being led by others." The work follows another study by Dr Simon Reader of Utrecht University that showed that most of us are happy to play follow-my-leader, even if we are trailing after someone who does not really know where they are going. "Even more striking, that study found that even when we are shown a faster route, we still prefer to stick with the old one and tell others to take the long road too. That discovery could have lethal implications when it comes to evacuating a building or ship in an emergency, when people would likely stick to the familiar evacuation route, even if slower than an alternative. It had to happen sometime.....it's what peoople in their fifties/sixties do.At least there was no "dad" thumb dancing.

Disagree......I know people that buy rare mint progressive albums purely as an investment.They have to be mint though.Never played and filed away.I know because i have sold them a few.Not sure about northern soul though but the top end items are getting more expensive and I assume people buy them for playing. I have this LP in mint condition with no cover...... can anyone help with a cover?????? https://www.popsike.com/THE-OPEN-MIND-st-RARE-ORIGINAL-UK-PSYCH-LP-1969-NM/250290459642.html

The outakes are a lot better especially the two lads at the end...one with a P Funk T shirt and the one in white trousers and braces.I'm sure the dancing on Out On The Floor (the BBC/ITV play was better as well..although I have lost that footage.