Agentsmith

this thread is becoming repetitive lads....just like the records....you see you're making another valid observation .....that in the 70's maybe we were all nieve....it was the thrill of dancing that governed our lives....after all thats what we payed to go in for and the fact that tunes were replicated didnt register with young lads and lasses who wanted the best adrenalin boost you could find anywhere on the planet( not drugs). so now we're all looking back with wiser heads and....oh yes...."god that got hammered didnt it?...wouldnt dream of dancin to it now!"...or as weve mellowed we think..." nah, thats not a bad tune after all and i might have a jig on the sidelines" repetition...do you get the picture? in the first 2 years the amount of records available was miniscule to what was to follow and if you caught my other thread there are literally 1000's of tunes that were also big at the casino but didnt take off elsewhere and subsequently dissappeared hence, the rare soul scene and the advent of stafford, 100 club, lea manor, soultown etc....bigger playlists, more djs more venues and more big ears listening out for "the repeat play"...another anorak trait? rob.h

absolutely steve, nothing wrong with the fact they were being played in a bigger venue to bigger and even more appreciative audiences and a lot of first timers. it dosnt take away the fact these records were broken at smaller and in some cases, legendary clubs but with the influx of even greater numbers of people to the scene these, in essence, were new tunes....that is the only differential. essentially, and speaking personally, i would say richard was, on the whole, largely responsible for playing " wigan's own" and, thats thanks to john anderson in the main. rob.h

mornin' dave, by gum there's some sharp brains about!....ah, but a lovely, glossy, finished little article would be nice on the burgeoning book shelf....oh bugger, now tell me there's one of them as well?! rob.h

OFF THE BACK OF THE WIGAN SUBJECT, A NICE LITTLE BOOKLET IM SURE, COULD BE WRITTEN ABOUT EVERY RECORD THATS EVER BEEN COVERED UP....REFERENCE VICKY BAINES AKA CHRISTINE COOPER AND....YES, CECIL WASHINGTON AKA JOE MATTHEWS, BUT COVER-UPS GO WAY BACK, MAYBE BEFORE THE TORCH? DEFINITELY AT THE CATS, VA-VA'S AND BLACKPOOL MECCA....ANY OF OUR ASTUTE SCRIBES FANCY THIS CHALLENGE....OR IS THERE ALREADY SOMETHING SIMILAR IN PRINT? ROB.H

what we call a "casino tune" didn't come into its own until 74 onwards, innaugural year was full of torch/wheel/va-va's/catacombs tunes that went stellar at station road. after that the discoveries and cover-ups gained pace resulting in some of richard's best powerplays including: VICKY BAINES - COUNTRY GIRL, CECIL WASHINGTON - I DONT LIKE TO LOSE, RITA AND THE TIARA'S - GONE WITH THE WIND, THE NURONS - ALL MY LIFE and my all-time fave, WILLIAM POWELL - HEARTACHES,SOUVENIERS......yes, the tomangoes, for instance is an awesome tune, no doubt but remember it was around before september 23rd 1973.....in the end guys, what matters is, virtually all of northern soul's greatest tunes and discoveries featured at a venue that was around at the right time and in the right place rob.h

LUUUUVVVVIN' IT!...DEFFO FUNERAL TUNE.....AROUND LONG AFTER WE'RE ALL HOVIS....gone thru some boxes of tissues in this house!....oh, and jj barnes "im the one who loves you".....SUBLIME, SUBLIME, SUBLIME! ROB.H

chooonz mate!, just one thing.........they'd better have american express...FOR ALL THE THINGS I CANT AFFORD!! ROB.H

hi guys, will power up the pc for this one!....studio will be rockin' like an oilrig then? all the best to kieth and sandra when they come. rob.h (telford)

eddie, emailed kenny but he probably knows anyway.....rona's already setting the fine-dining table! rob.h (telford)

thanks for info! rob.h

cheers, had slower version but it was on deluxe. rob.h

artist who has just recently passed over...as a consequence i would like to obtain a copy of "you belong to me" on hbr 7" single or lp...any chance?

hi john, copy on tim browns list, may still have it...think it was £80 rob.h

got the "right sound", just like "age of the wolf" by susan coleman, and yes, from that period when the scene developed blueeyedsoulitis which of course, is sneered at by elitists then as it still is now....but everyone danced to it and if it got spun now the same would happen again....i have even been considering getting myself a copy just recently....got to keep your finger on the pulse, yes?...always liked the label as well...oh, by the way...CHECK OUT "TICK-TOCK" BY CONNIE STEVENS bell 1971 thom bell production blue eyed philadelphia soul...WHAT A CORKER!! ROB.H

marc, always knew deep down there had to be another cut of this track, now youve shown the way. remember john vincent playing this at wigan but at the time i thought the batteries in my cassette were shot as it sounded speeded up when i played it at home!. just to add irony, i bought a copy of the "slower" version off kieth williams about 9 years ago thinking it was the real deal. it was released on deluxe i think but i have seen other gaines releases on hbr and he was quite prolific on other labels....SO NOW I WILL BE LOOKING FOE EITHER 7" OR LP.....ANYONE SELLING?...on hbr (of course!) rob.h

anyone willing to part with a copy of "hey girl"? rob.h

hi john, ditto comments to kieth, last time i actually heard it played was 2 or 3 years ago by rob smith but it is a great tune, almost psychedelic but there were some wierd and wonderful tunes played at the casino in the first 3 years, some you wouldnt get away with now but some are ripe for long deserved spin. rob.h

hi kieth, dunno...not seen it in a long time....HAD a copy of lp in 70's....and your'e not gonna believe this but it was last track on side 1 so....got a sharp knife and cut it out to make a perfect 7"....HOW CRIMINAL WAS THAT?!....young and foolish in them days but this was massive at wigan and to be honest the cardboard(standard issue)sleeve does look tremendous an the title fits perfectly as it is on jubilee records however....value? you're the dealer so i guess id rely on your best guess....how does that sound? rob.h

anyone got a copy of either of these for sale? rob.h

cor blimey guv'nr, pass on me regards to the mexican taxi driver! and ave a word in his shell about madeline bell's doin things lp and does he ave a copy for sale...crystal? rob.h

how about eloise laws - "if i dont watch out" - liberty 1980 gloria lynne - "ive got to tell somebody" - uk djm/us canyon tina mason - "what"(version) - capitol 5th dimension - "what does it take" - bell hearts of stone - "what does it take" - vip magnificent men - "keep on climbin" - capitol lori burton - "gotta make you love me" - mercury