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Don't know for 1966 as the few 4 singles released on that Rainbo records company are all dated by 1965 on 45cat.com. But without better reference like Bill Board or Music World charts or review for example but the link with both Cliff Chambers composer and the Dolly & the Fashions last single indicate to me like a close time frame rather than a lengthy one and the Ivanhoe has a year of release. Thanks for that John Vincent play by 1975 tip. Likely as I said a now (for a while but could be proven wrong) a 'dusty' oldie NS sound that could still have got some exposure 10 years after on the decks in less forwarded progressive (doesn't necessarily mean positive to me) clubs hence it's inclusion on that 1985 Soul Supply compilation 'soulful kinda music' but not so much after I'd believe as I never heard it out...

Straightening things on Discogs and 45cat.com between the 3 Phyllis Brown discographies (Cali, Texas and Ohio) I see now that her pink label pressing variation on Rainbo records of 'oh baby !' B / W 'why' features Dolly & the Fashions from 'the right one' on Ivanhoe Records and 'absence made my heart grow founder' on Tri Disc. This peculiar credit addition is featured only on the pink release that I only noticed now as I don't own this pink variation and before didn't bother to look closer as to what made them different beside the color variation... For this is a good record that is somehow of a 'taking dust' Northern sound that only got DJ action when first played... The composer Cliff Chambers (also named Willie Headen as singer) and his Cupid Publishing Co. also add to establish the connection between this Phyllis Brown of 'oh baby !' B : W 'why' on Rainbo Records (featuring Dolly + Fashions) and both the previous Dolly & the Fashions records to definitively be one and the same gang at work. It is proposed by some on 45cat.com that Dolly is Dolores Hall. This through the James Carmichael & Earl Nelson, Bob Relf, Fred Smith involvements on both Dolly & the Fashions singles that would then take her to Keymen and Mirwood... Although to my ears the singing of Dolores Hall and Dolly of the Fashions don't really match IMHO. Later by 1967 this Cali Phyllis Brown of ours here joined the Babies. A girl group that got 2 releases on Dunhill. One covering Jerry Butler's 'you make me feel like someone'. The Babies were aiming for bigger things but judging by the number of stock copies versus promos to be found on the market the success was not met. Anyway could this white girl here named Phyllis Brown also be a previously member of the Fashions and went on to do this solo effort on rainbow Records and then went to chance bigger things as lead singer in the Babies group ? Would anyone know better if Dolly & the Fashions are actually related to this Phyllis Brown and if so how ? November 1963 March 1965 1965 1965

Single or EP ?

Jerry Fuller was a popular artist. Who unlike Ron could sing. So yes stock copies were evidently commercialized to satisfy this popular artist fans base. Not found of his gear leaning toward a predominantly teeny audience evidently not that soulful orientated. Even if this single attempting to 'jump' onto the 'Motown' craze did not really succeed in the USA it did for the soul freaks in the northern hemisphere of the UK... And me.

Sure (I'll ask him) but why would an American Musicor 45 would bear such a prong center ?

What is that 'the import center' not pressed out for Porgy & the Monarchs ?

OK thanks. It was unknown to me. Preferring the reggae flip though. To each its own. For me Jamaican doing their soul stuffs is like Americans doing their ska or reggae sounds... Never fully sounded so right to my ears. With few exceptions to like (not even of the rare kind necessary) but never or so rarely to adore. When I was deep into the Jamaican stuffs most of these now supposed soul Jamaican records were not well regarded by most and barely selling whenever. And I was adventurous with all the weird things I picked to train my ears with those peanuts Jamaican related records nobody else want so not shy or opinionated. Although I always loved my 'soulful' ska, rock-steady and reggae sounds. Always preferring the Jamaicans doing their things and the Americans doing theirs. If I still can enjoy deep nitty-gritty Jamaican connoisseur DJ spots, like on a 'blues' night, a MOR 'classic' ska & reggae fan DJ selection will bore me instantly. Like a Northern Soul DJ filling a spot gap with such Jamaican sounds at a soul nights with predictable Jamaican sounds is just depressing to me. The other way around the same IMHO. Both will inevitably 'surf' on the surface of what these sounds have most "accessible" to a broad crowd. Which is not what I'm in for.

'More than words can say' off course 😜

Can't say really. £50+ up to £100 I'd believe by today. Prices in the UK didn't seem to matter from old sale's lists but maybe other 'deep disco' markets more inclined for one or the other might suggests otherwise by now.

Only have my styrene Sterling RN-101 copy and know that the other pressing plant press on vinyl do exists on Sterling B-45-2841 and bares a slightly different shorter take of the tune. This second dishes out a more 'beefed up' recording with extra layers of vocals and instruments (mess) that I don't dig. Here below find first the styrene and then below the vinyl version...

Save a breath ; what it's commonly loved by us is the 7" format ! 😉 45rpm better but 33 can be acceptable sometimes. Aimed for diner's Juke Boxes those 6 tracks mastering are disappointing when played on proper home phono gear IME. But they're cute. Low in gain and thin on bass (low and mid frequency response are weakened for the highs to take over) begging to press up volume to not so good playback quality. On DJ sound system playback quality is often mediocre enough not to disadvantage those too much through filters.

Freddie Scott's original version is simply Magistral though... Only not Motown.

The Age of Bronze on Guava 103 'B' side flip 'I'm in love' is also featured on Guava 101 original's 'A' side credited as to the Turbulations. FWIW which to my ears insidiously borrows some melody 'riffs' of Larry Sanders 'im in love'... Coincidence only maybe within a year gap.

You're right it doesn't exist. Trolls of the day. Purpose ? To have an affordable 'infatuation' glory moment Ever met some of these shady past characters having a go at it claiming with a big smile that's them ? I did occasionally 😉 Dee-Jay's cover-ups sent legions of "gold diggers" in vein quests that some decided to fool-play with. Who's the fool ?

The 'X' file factor... Nobody has answered it because nobody on here has seen one yet. The proof in such case can only be delivered by bringing one. No body, no murder case. It doesn't mean that there is no murder. It only means that there's no case. RobbK's explanation aimed to point out (subjectively too) as to why maybe the record never got beyond the promotional stage due to Ron Holden's poor vocal performance. And that even radios dee-jays were not keen to push it up. If it was up to him the same.

Thanks for confirming the humble nature of Sire Dennis Anderson. As with all my most TOP beloved tunes whose authentic and humble yet articulate vocal performance they never fail to ressemble the real good personality characters these singers turn out to be in the end. And this Anderson Brothers 'I can see him loving you' is one of those. Their classy singing of the most painful heartbreak tale that was on first hear echoing vividly my own then still grieving worst scared thoughts... It worked on me to full effect. It still does to this day.

Yes I know that it's a proper inside job well done but on such a dull white label with bold typos and no nothings sexy about it but it's sole rare factor that some go for but of no interest to me. So I get that others go for it just because it's rare. Reading of it from lists then seeing it was a major let down for my expectation...

Soul and then some... The Originals at their most soulful*****

Sure but the 'X' file factor must leave the other to think that you're into 'conspiracy' theories... So rare it is. Or a scam. Old school UK collector myths like the Volumes on Pama (only poor quality photocopies in old fanzines... Hot Cinnamon (Joe & George on Now) 'no one loves you' on S.O.S. on a one off boot maybe... ? What's the score today on Tommy Tate 'if you gotta to love somebody' on Koko with supposedly 2 'legit' 7" copies known to exist ?

Sam Williams on Tower issue. Think it was said to exist but nothing ever showed up to attest of it Nolan Chance on Bunky (white label vinyl press) looked like a seventies vanity press to me (small batch made for him if I remember correctly) so of no real historical interest IMHO. Once a Manship auction item...

Unissued !

My 2 cents. Sorry if I come a bit 'negative' but such is my own experience of it. Not a Londoner so indeed I can't relate to such an experience and born only in 1970 when the world had change by then and so did the scenes too. Still I read some about it and get the thing and picture what it was made of and what was 'fresh' as 'rooted' with it. Coming from the Jamaican side of music things I always preferred the fully segregated sounds for 100% in-deep immersion of rare, in vogue and connoisseur sounds. This applies for my soul nights as well. Although I always enjoyed the lighter social gatherings of such 'soul & ska' social nights playing mostly 'easy' and 'accessible' sounds. On the 'rare' soul and northern soul scene I always found the bits of "Jamaican" imported sounds at those do's mostly not to my liking. Often records I even use to diss when I was into the Jamaican sounds. The first time I endured that I was in awe. Found it a poor 'alternative' in sing-a-long and danceable sounds. With 'rare soul' tag priced on them 🤮 My (not only mine) best experience in 'mixing' both in one night was on boat (that remained on the docks) with the upstairs room dedicated to 'soul' dee-jays and the 'basement' for Jamaican sounds. Both dishing out great sounds from humble and less humble collectors for a catchy and rare sounds mixture that thrilled all those who attended.

Three pressing plants involved. First pressed at monarch (styrene) titled 'little togetherness' then re-pressed 'A little togetherness'. Those Monarch pressings got at least 5 pressing variants between the promo, both titles variants, one artists name variation as The Tempos and a production change of position on the label... Indicating as many runs of pressing batches all along as the demand was growing or revived... But how long ? One year ? To farther involving two other pressing plant (Best Way and yours) for two vinyl issues variants. Yours is this one that was copied to be booted. Only yours is the real thing that is amongst other things machined stamp.

Not OG version 🥸 and exists as a 45 🥺 Still if one was to consider it being better if ever 🫠 it would be in another thread or forum even LOL Joke aside with all due respect to each its own evidently but this Tempts period although troubled some for the group with a hectic David is my favorite one. So I am partial too 😃

Although I love the Van Dykes (have their Bell LP too) I never could dig their rendition of this Temptations fabulous track from their best LP too... While most of the dancer tunes on this Tempts LP made it on 45 this one not and what a tune this is ! Every home should have one !