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Thick thick bad looking (as sounding) vinyl press with uneven partly rugged label. Silver lettering is of poor quality an label colors uncanny. Last there's a 'R' (registered) in an 'O' logo on top of the Motown logo (top right).

Very confusing one indeed. There's definitely been a lot of confusion in the studio and at the passing plant while dealing with the masters indications at the time... Here's another tread on the subject;

It's not to be set a rule but assuming 'promotional' copies are part of the first pressed 'batch', the 'brown' release had a real promotional release. The black Argo not apparently. Sticking to my Artone picture sleeve press As Robbk said, it could be a typical case where some pressing plants still had stashes of 'old' the labels to use after the new labels where already used in other pressing plants instead of being 'first' and 'second' release.

Cheap reggae and cheap weed Corona shortage... Bad combination 😉

Seller's name/pseudo maybe ? I might know him/her as I am Belgian in Belgium... And if you'd prefer to keep it discreet which might be more suited, just PM me.

At least that made me laugh to keep from crying...

Didn't know there was a "mix" difference with the Chicago Music Bag release. Even the mastering between the Al-Tog vinyl and styrene slightly differ evidently. The vinyl Al-Tog "silky lush" mastering gets my vote here. Well if one sold $810 and another seemingly got $450 for it and most others barely got $200 and most went for less, I know where to set my price the day I'll have a spare to trade or sell not to feel ripping-off the taker.

2 labels and 3 variations. The first release on Chicago Music Bag, then the Al-Tog vinyl and the Al-Tog styrene pressings. They are all 3 seemingly as rare or not really so rare but facing a recent growing demand. Always kept mine as I love the 'I done told you baby' side. Classic Big Chi-Sound. Never had to be 'older' to love my slowies nor await a demand for such sounds to be 'in vogue' to jump on the train wagon. Now the prices are really all over the place and I wonder if one could sell any of these pressings for more than £150 even though Discogs sales show one that went around £250... Craig Moerer's $750 is a joke.

Not commenting on the record's musical quality FWIW, still I never knew, unless it got erase off my brain, that there was a west-coast styrene pressing of this. So yes, it's rare on it's own for that fact only. Not the tune...

Not to disagree on the 'journalist' pedigree point of view statement but I started with that 'mod revival' term as it is used today by mod people as well to differentiate the music genres and the era. It's truly not pejorative as such I find.

Looking good like so in their WDJ dress he ? 😉 Also have the Betty La Vette as a WDJ label. Had the Falcons 'standing on guard'. Although it looked good, it had some playback issue (like hiss) and so only kept the stocker as a 'filler'. Would love them 5 firsts Big Wheel 45 as WDJ but likely only the first one doesn't exist as a WDJ...

The Falcons (standing on guard), Sandy Hollis, Betty La Vette and Eddie King had white label issues presumed promo (not quoted 'promo' though) releases as opposed to their green Big Wheel labels commercial edits. The two later Falcons 'good good felling' and 'love look in her eyes' (both green and blue label variations) never. Begging specifically for the existence or not of the 'white label' variation of the first Big Wheel release.

My belief as well. So likely no promo labeled copies for the first of the label and the two lasts, unless someone comes along...

Remember a tread on here about rare promotional singles releases. A mention of the Falcons on Big Wheel 321 being mentioned. But I am yet to be showed one. Thought not to exist. The only sort of "quoted" promo I've seen is with a stamp 'A' on 'fool' side. Still does anyone own or has seen a white demo of this if ever ?

1978/9 the mod 'revival' (odd name for that 🤔) but by 1964 the mod thing had also become a commercial product perverting the original, marginal, elitist or underground phenomenon... With mod bands doing mod music for mod people, because black music is not... I'll let anyone qualify that 😉 The 1968/1971 skinheads got 'skinhead' reggae tributes FWIW; not as bad IMO ! Dare you, I was a skinhead myself (mid 80's), that doesn't detour me to criticize it for what it is or was; a youth movement centered on looks with language codes of it's own. Music was part of the ornaments. Few dearly love music actually like us. The NS scene comes from the 'rare soul' scene that centered around music. Unlike the mod or skinhead thing. There's passerelles between those scenes but they're not the same.

Good fot you. I have one 'showing' FWIW stuck there since 31st March... Did the tracking show anything for yours passed the Miami stage ?

The Mod (or Modernist) term is a qualificative word that is never to be put to plural purists say 😜 . Mod can be as many different scenes as they are each and everyone of them a 'face'. And so a 'scene' on his/her own. So you had Mod, Mod and Mod. These are very different peoples/scenes already !!! If early Mod searched for 'rare' and 'alternative' jazz, blues, R'n'B, soul and Caribbean sound sometimes as they would attend black music gigs, for the rest they had their nighters, DJ's and clubs of their own. And still had you Mod (not 'hard' ones) past 1968 they would look rather out dated by then 🤖 So did some ex Mod by then got into the 'rare' soul scene and later into northern soul... Yes. But this 'rare' soul scene had nothing to do with the Mod generic attitude. For starter the music became the very center of this scene. And this is a very different stand. Dress codes FWIW was something else as well 🧐

Not mentioned yet but not a tailor-made (so not scary sounding like most are) but more like influenced with some budget to produce something this scene would dig with the right people in and around the music. A bit in the same "idea" of the Carol Anderson on Fee or is it Grapevine ? 'sad girl' that I love BTW. Only predating by a decade is this one. As for the 'pole', worst is easy; all of them. Best, now that's a tricky one...

Evidently I was taking a stand for the 'dial 'L' for lonely' record ! There are indeed great records in the Top 500. Still not all are that to me in that one compiled Top 500 selection. Where also many records now regarded as 'pop' that were popular back then and participate making the scene big then but that were deliberately left out. For those who see the Top 500 as a bible, this Madeline Wilson is evidently not much to consider. And for the new "kids" on the scene with plenty of cash to spend on in-demand records, the 'dial 'L' for lonely' hipster's potential is evidently lacking as definitely there's nothing 'funky' to it. Not good enough for them 2 sorts. But this little dear of a record is plenty good enough for me And I don't mind the qualificative 'old'N'dusty' for it either. Because that is what that tune is to my ears. Like others, I love my records for what they are to me be it slick or not. Not going by what the consensus or the 'order of the day' that would tell me what to 'dig'. Now this is taking this tread to adrift... Are people still travelling to hear such or such records, well if it was happening at some times back then, it was not such a big phenomenon that lasted for decades. People still traveled but sportively from one venue to the next. Even dedicated DJ followers were only a handfull at most. So to see herds traveling to hear only one record is more of a legend that grew from hearsay when some claimed out loud to do so and word got to the press. This is just part of the glorification process to build a myth around a "new religion". Take one's word for fact. Echo and enhance it and you'll have pilgrims following. Not that I am dissing all the kids who attended the scene back then. Just setting the "record" straight. The scene vigor and enthusiasm toward soul music in Northern Soul was true for some, partly important for more and part of the uniform for mosts. This is true for most scenes, sub-culture teen phenomenon and other sects. And I believe it still is to this day on the different fragments of this scattered scene. People still travel some IME. Hopefully not only on holiday resort Week-Ender package formula thingies. Following their DJ's, gangs of friends and hosters not to fall into the 'unknown' (Woo scary !) or unexpected adventurous experience 😉

Not a "hiss" (cue burn or high frequencies saturation) per say. More of a sound engineer take issue with an 'open' unused channel (mike) left open out loud at the recording take giving a 'blow' noise floor effect kinda thing that is part of the recording and so show on the mastering. I believe...

Do like I ; live with the coming and going "hisses"... 😉

Phil Orsi 'love i slipping away' was only issued in 1977 as a 'B' side of a single dedicated to Elvis memorial's just past his death and so might have passed unnoticed by those who knew 'Mr Shy' in 1966. Happiness-Is's version of 'love is slipping away' also using 'Mr Shy' backing track released on Banner could have been issued anywhere between late 6T's or early 7T's but sounds even more 'white'.

Same experience here. It's only lately that I've seen those bold Flash non-records logo. Mind you they seem to have pop-up here and there. Meaning NOS copies have been found... Logically the first release should also be a tad rarer.

Thanks guys, makes sense somehow. That way it's this likely this order with the two closest label templates lay-outs just before the distribution deal and right after. Leaving the most distinctive ones likely furthest appart. 1st issue self distributed 2nd issue self & revised 3rd One-Derful distributed 4th & last w/new logo

Yes, OK, but what do we do with that and the fact that on this very record it got removed (or added if ever) ? What could be the story behind that here ? I w👁️nder