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Question Time. A group of experts from the various camps, get together, and attempt to influence and educate the 'Hoi Polloi' with the usual invective ridden, round and round the houses diatribe, that bores the arse of the audience, who just want to dance. This 'enjoy yourself whilst you're out' phenomena should be discussed ad infinitum until one of the experts explains it away as a devastating sickness, that ultimately will see the end of the northern scene, at which point the panel spontaneously stand up, and start slapping each other on the back, for their incredible insight. The four people left in the audience are then asked to cascade the info down to the masses....

If you're not playing to your crowd at an event, just who are you playing too, sounds like an ego trip to me. How anybody can have a 'if you don't like this unknown/rarely played' record is beyond me, how does anyone place their own opinion above someone elses. This is coming from someone who doesn't mind hearing something different, but ultimately I go to dance, it doesn't matter to me if you think it's danceable, it's whether I do, and for me read any punter who goes to dance rather than listen. That will come to us all soon enough, don't hurry it along, or try to get us acclimatised to what our future holds.

Probably, I don't hold high hopes for it, but I'll feel justified having a moan up about it, should the need occur.

I've seen it, there's a couple of good spins by Michael Jackson, end of review.

I don't think it was as big as some people remember, my area Bedfordshire, around 73/74 you'd take a box of records with you on a normal night out, wait for the DJ to play a few, go and dance and be joined by maybe 10 others. Obviously it was bigger in other areas, and at any dedicated night, but the country wasn't awash with nighter goers, which sometimes is the impression given nowadays. Today's scene and most of us still on it, have been joined by people who are of similar age, and have taken their rightful place because Uncle Albert's 4th cousin removed went, so they feel entitled.

Funnily enough just watched one, and the bloke being filmed, was doing the invisible hoola hoop move, and incorporating what appeared to be an ancient form of the twerk, not a style I remember well....

Not to worried myself, as long as they don't try to get arty shots laying flat on the dance floor

Very enjoyable review, it was indeed another good night at Rugby. I did ask about those youngsters, think they tagged along with someone, but it wasn't the usual crew that inhabit the nighter scene.

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The thing that perplex's me the most is that presumably these people can't dance to any sort of music to begin with, so what would suddenly make someone pick northern as a style to learn? They've surely not been secretly desperate for X amount of years to learn the footsie because they once heard the music, pick your own scenario, I'm going with... because they once heard the music at an aqua aerobics class, and they just haven't been able to express their eternal cerebral connection, through the medium of the front crawl. I suppose they could have been bitten by a radio active Binstanley and instantly mirrored his renowned altruism where all things northern are concerned, but this seems just as unlikely as he doesn't strike me as someone who leaves much on his plate come meal time and he wouldn't have stopped at a nibble. Maybe we should just put it down to a stroke of good fortune, and accept that it was decreed in the stars, Mars aligned with Uranus and what could have been a sticky chocolatey bum situation, was avoided because Pluto decided to give northern soul dancing tuition. An enigma indeed...

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Being totally honest, I haven't registered the lyrics as I was muttering to myself, ''Why did you even offer to put this question up''. Even with my limited knowledge I was pretty sure I wasn't in the presence of an unheard of masterpiece. I think it's safe to say I can close the thread. Thanks for the input gents

Mark on analysing your reply I am left in 2 minds. On the one hand there is the remote chance that you're bad mouthing the record in the hope of finding a box of 50, thereby making your fortune. The other option is, and this is only my interpretation from reading between the lines of your reply, you think it best for me to go back to the 2 lads making the enquiries about said track, and ask them to look up the meaning of the word shite in an on line dictionary, upon which they'll discover this video as the given definition.

don't know if this has been asked on here, just seen someone on another site saying he must know the identity of the singer and the title of the song. He said he'd asked everywhere, but just on the off chance I thought I'd check with the experts. Not really worried about hearing reviews of the record, it's not my personal cup of tea, but if you want to, what the heck, if no one can identify it, I can count up the ''It's sh*t'' and the ''It's great'' comments and see which one comes out on top. Thanks in advance

I was added to a casting group on facebook Byrney, didn't even know it existed. Within a couple of days this job came up, no description at all, apart from that it was for an advert. As I was at a loose end that whole week, I thought it might be fun and keep me busy. I said to the group admin, if it's in any way tacky, I wouldn't get involved, this all happened on a Monday. Tuesday, some sad news broke, which put me on the back foot, but I'd already pretty much decided it wasn't for me as there were no details to hand, and that made me suspicious. Not the group admin's fault, they just hadn't been told where, when or what the advert was about. On the Thursday, and still in the dark, I got an e-mail, think it was at 7 at night, asking me to bring any memorabilia I'd saved and my clothes from the 7Ts and to be in Manchester, at 11 the next morning for the audition. This was from the people actually making the advert, so I wrote back to them and said, can't do it, but thanks for the opportunity, and that was that. So boredom made me consider it, but reality and realisation that I'm not really that person stopped me. I'm not against the media, no point being like that really, if they want to get involved, nothing will stop them, but I also thought back to a recent Nuneaton nighter the one that Paul Mason was interviewing people at, and my reactions when I encountered him outside. I turned my back, just in case he tried to interview me, I wasn't being purposely rude, just didn't want to be involved.

It's a bit 'oh grampa what big eyes you have' ...

Dignified? Is it more dignified to wander around venues stumbling, mumbling drunk, stopping only on the odd occasion to nod in appreciation as the next unheard of dirge hits the decks, or to get out and enjoy yourself dancing, like we all used to? For me it's the latter. I don't wear the clobbed, but don't hAve an aneurysm when I see someone who does :-)

I'm not trying to be disrespectful here Mick, but can I just point out, it's mostly the oldies crowd that refer to themselves as soulies. The point I'm making is that there does seem to be a certain amount of crossover (insert comical musical reference here) between the two groups, oldies/upfront. There was a thread a couple of months ago, and some lad was on about making a thread, Russ Vickers came up with a brilliant plot for him, but even if it were to be made, wouldn't that also put us once again in the media spotlight. Can we ever really get away from the vest and bags image?

You're American, so I'm not ruling out gun powder either

Maybe the underlying theme is powder, marching for us (allegedly), talcum for the wet suit brigade

I should explain, I never made any of those comments mentioned in my initial post, I also thought the film was very accurate and very good, they were just some of the things I saw quoted on various threads both here and on social media. As for the research done on the advert. I was meant to audition for the part, I was given 4 hours notice to find memorabilia and clothes that I might have kept from the early 7Ts. Then expected to travel to Manchester the next day for the audition, (from Bedford). I declined due to personal circumstances, but the filming was supposed to be done at Blackburn, but was switched to Worcester the very next weekend. So I would suggest that research was set at minimum. Personally I don't see any way in which the Northern scene is not going to be touched, tasted and ultimately spat out by the media, just the way it is in 2015.

How in 2015 can anybody expect the northern soul scene avoid the media? A film gets made, it's not accurate enough, the music is wrong, the dancing is poor, we're portrayed as a 'vest and bags' movement, research not deep enough, bringing the northern scene effectively into disrepute. Just some of the things claimed about the recent film. Now an advert has been made, much the same things being said about it. Are we saying we expect a total media blackout on the subject of Northern Soul, or is there a film, or an advert that could be made that we'd be happy with? To be honest I can't see it, never going to please everyone as they say. I'm half expecting no replies to this thread because ironically to have your say, you have to use the internet, which in effect is 'spreading the word' rather than keeping it underground, especially if the same sort of post were made on social media sites. I'll get the tumbleweed emoticon ready shall I

Why does TV pigeon-hole the 'Northern soul lover'? Well their point of reference in most cases is a 1977 documentary showing people in vests and baggies. We're busy shouting ''but everything's changed we're different now''. Obvious next question from the producer. ''What music do you listen to now, are current releases played on the northern scene''? ''We still listen, collect and dance to most of the same records that we did throughout the 7Ts Mr Producer''. ''So what exactly has changed''. I haven't worded it brilliantly, but we're a product of our own making, yes we might wear slightly different clothes, but if you were a spinner or a dropper in your youth, wouldn't you still do it if you could now? Bottom line is, nothing much has really changed accept in the really upfront venues, and even in those the bulk of the music played is from the 6Ts. Why would a TV producer see us any other way than in a 'This is England' style?