Chalky

I thought that was very reasonable even cheap, it is extremely rare.

Common records and hits of the day were counterfeited and booted, it is well documented in books concerning Motown and other labels. If something is a good seller someone will try and make cash on the back of it.

Shee Records 563 E. Tremont Avenue, Bronx, New York, Founded by Larry Roberts with some other partners. Sidney Barnes was asked to help set up the label, coming up with the name and the logo. Sid was a Motown Staff writer at the time and Lucille White took a song to Motown with the hope of getting it recorded, it was rejected. However Sid liked the song and thought it would be ideal for Little Nicky Soul at the newly created Shee records. Little Nicky, real name Nichalous Faircorth was from Newark, New Jersey and was a good friend of Sidney Barnes. Sidney collaborated with Lucille, helping rewrite the lyrics and produced the recording of the song for Little Nicky. He is credited on the label as M. Alexander as he couldn’t use his real name because he was solely contracted to Motown. Richard Tee, the arranger and conductor was a piano player at Jobete, he later went on to work as musical arranger for Paul Simon and Aretha Franklin. Despite rumours Little Nicky didn’t record any other tracks with Shee according to Sidney. One other release on the label was by the Four Arts. The group was Lee Gilliard, Cleve Gilliard, Dave Richards and Ike Richards. Sidney doesn’t remember anything about them. The 45 was written and produced by Larry Roberts. SR-100 Four Arts Just One Night (ZTSP 94861) Who Do You Think You Are (ZTSP 94862)SR-101 Little Nicky Soul I Wanted To Tell You (ZTSP 94863) You Said (ZTSP 94864)

I have at home but not there till Friday so if still stuck give me a shout. There is info about the artist and Shee on here somewhere, it all came from Sid Barnes.

Think he did, the fast one.

Just remembered this topic (can a mod delete the new one I just started maybe?)

Some things are lost in the midst of time but I remember buying this off Guy like yesterday. Been a popular tape over the years. It has been on my desk for a couple of months so a quick transfer to the computer and here it is for your listening pleasure.

The number under the catalogue number on the right distinguishes which mix

Is it the same take as the 45?

thanks for passing on, on the shopping list

It seems that many releases are aimed at Djs rather than putting cillectors and music first with many being limited releases. If they are good and go down well at venues it isn't long before a new release is commanding three figures. The difference in cost between 300 and 500 and again 500 and a 1000 isn't that great in tne scheme of things. Not sure what effect the extra press has on the licence cost? But I would have thought it was in the interest of the artist or rights holder to sell as many as possible. The difference in cost is quite steep, from around 8 quid to £20, you can often buy an Lp cheaper. The blatant exploitation of the market with test pressings with a run of 50+... they are in effect just an issue. Test pressing aren't sold or shouldn't be sold, neither should demos which are often twice the cost of an issue.

Cresa Watson was the first issue. The Rita Lee was pressed later by the owner Major Bill who was in touch with a dealer over here who was telling him what was popular. Robert Thomas was the bigger record then so Rita Lee done on the back of that probably. Even the later press is now fetching a few hundred, Cresa I know has had offers around 2.5 plus.

Does that include the ones already in the hands of Djs/collectors, Butch, Andy etc. I know where Mick's and Ginger's came from.

Got a link

I thought his renditionnof Going Out Of My Head and Its Not The Same were great. The rest hit and miss. He still has an incredible voice. Tne sound system didn't help, not where I was stood at the back.

But aren't we or I thought we were talking about blue eyed soul wih the emphasis on soul or have we moved on to white pop shite played on the northern scene?

What history?

The scissors or him 😂

Has a three year old cut the label out?

One of the great books about this fabulous thing called Soul.

That makes it a April/May 1971 press. If it was monarch it will have MR in a circle. So it was done after the Liberty deal.

It didn't get issued initially, maybe because if the dustribution deal with Chess ending? The issue has different distributors. The issue still done by Red Coach and totally legit. Most records are only ever pressed if there is demand.

1971 delta number would 83*** to 86***

69 on the Imperial discography too

Mama's Love/You gave me up has Oct 1969 as its release date on 45cat