Chalky

Yeah it was all the unissued Motown that was found early 80's by Rod Shard via Robb K. Hope you are well mate.

Trotters, used to run the mini bus from Chesterfield, was a couple of blokes at work with them. I don't remember any LP with these tracks on, he did do the Motown one which had On The Outside Looking In which was one of Rob's current plays at the time. I put two or three of Rob's tapes on mix cloud, great listening. You should send this one down Andy so I can digitise.

Whether we like Craig Charles or not he seems to have quite a following. Saw him when we went to see Lee Fields in Manchester, he was the DJ and doing a pretty good job too with the youngsters in there.

One of the best cheapie you can buy.

The above chart mentions Judy Street on Grapevine so that would put it at '77 or 'early '78 and not '74.

some Virtue ones as well, you could buy original 60's blanks on ebay a few years ago

Thanks Sean, appreciated.

There was no implication that either were part of the Motown Sound but qualified (just ) for the show because of where they lived earlier in their lives. TB did explain.

I've listened to much of the Detroit one today and I simply can't understand the gripes. Some cracking choices which are rarely heard on radio. His love of the music is obvious too. As for Motown, I thought there was a good representation but there is far more to Detroit Soul than Motown. Motown is pretty much covered throughout the year anyway on Radio 2, even if the listener doesn't realise it is Motown and Detroit Soul. Yes we can analyse and be critical, we could all pick a different two hours but at the end of the day it isn't aimed at us and anything like this is better than nothing. A decent couple of hours listening whilst driving.

People have been caught out, but not for long, that is the crux of this. I doubt you would catch out the experienced dealer or a collector who knows what tell tale signs to look for. Those that this type of market is or would be aimed at by the looks of the bootleg/carver market don't seem to care anyway so why go to the trouble of trying to replicate something which is practically impossible to do. As said the inks, paper and vinyl have changed tremendously since the 60's. Methods alone are very different let alone the ingredients. And the cost involved trying to attempt something like this would far outweigh the returns. As soon as a minter appears on ebay, questions are asked, as soon as a second or third copy appears chances are whoever has been rumbled, real or not. You have to remember people watch nothing but ebay, sales lists, forum sales etc, they can spot anomalies a mile off.

I'd sooner go into a pub or a shop and hear the soundtrack to the film than some of the dirge they often inflict upon us. I can't remember the last time I heard Suspicion in a venue?

There is probably more to be made out of crappy boots than there is any high class forgery/counterfeit.

You only have to see something listed twice on ebay before thers is a topic on here and questions asked. It is one of the most mistrusting markets there is and I doubt there are any records worth going to the kind of trouble and hassle you metion above. Suspicions would be raised and probably proven very quickly.

I would have thought many ingredients in ink have changed completely, I know paint is completely different to what it was 10 years ago due to health and safety legislation never mind 30/40 years ago. I would think that anything done today to deceive would soon be rumbled no matter how good. I also think someone would have done it by now if it was profitable.

Its a great record, one of Motown's greatest and will always be a great record. One I will never tire of.

One of my all time favourite 'SOUL' ballads along with Dark End Of The Street and Eddie Parker's But If You must Go.

Can't disagree, every era has its share of casualties and turkey's that succeeded despite, in retrospect being very poor or even worse. Like you say, one good thing about this scene is always someone willing to dig that little bit deeper and dig out that one, two spin wonders and give them another go. Incites extremely rare though and suffers maybe because of its obscurity, as do many records.

Cheers Kev, nice to know who and when etc. I know Minsh was playing it early 80's. Why did it bomb btw? Tempo too slow?

I was told Seven Souls was played at Torch and Wigan but didn't take off till getting on a decade later??

Oh really useful box do a larger one that holds 200 45's and one for lps as well

I've recommended the really useful box for sometime. About the same size as cardboard counterpart but obviously much stringer and waterproof. You can get them in different colours if you wish to clour code your record storage

I was wondering which one we were talking about

https://www.discogs.com/James-Brown-JBs-Give-Me-Some-Skin-People-Wake-Up-And-Live/release/5076291

it's the flip of Give Me Some Skin

Nothing is impossible but the outlay compared to the returns would probably be off putting. Besides tracking down original vinyl, paper and especially inks would be extremely difficult if not nigh on impossible.