Chalky

If it is constructive and not a slagging then it shouldn't be too much of an upset. I agree n o one likes to read something negative about an event a promoter has put a lot of work into but surely it should be of benefit in the long run. I've read reviews from some and I think I was at a different venue at the time despite being with said person.

If someone reads that a night was full and it wasn't then I would like to think they would say so.

I can't think of any negative feedback being removed by any Mods? Sure Martin will be along to confirm as such. We only step in if the negative is blatant slagging off with little effort of a review in sight. Constructive criticism should be welcomed? I personally like to read all reviews good or bad, the bad as long as it is constructive. I'm sure any like minded promoter, although not liked is open to constructive criticism, otherwise how do you improve? If you have any criticism of any event you have attended there is nothing to stop you posting what you feel is wrong, as long as it is constructive and you give a reason.

is there a download/listen again?

If you'd asked me the price I would have said £250 tops. It's not as though there hasn't been copies about over the years.

I remember John Mill's weekenders. Llandudno was the venue for one if I remember rightly. Excellent weekenders they were, DJ'ed at a couple.

Here's the listing from R&B Indies (in black)......what we have listed are in red Mr Clean was either released twice on the label or it is a misprint, the R&B Indies even has a number of RC-1002-B, no info for the top side. 100 The New Yorkers - Don't Want To Be Your Fool b/w You Should Have Told Me 101 The New Yorkers - Ain't That News b/w There's Going To be A Wedding (Royal Knights) 1000 Willie Bovain Trio Carnival Of Soul (instrumental) b/w Soul In The Morning 1001 The Royal Knights - You Should Have Told Me b/w There's Going To be A Wedding 1001 The Royal Knights - You Should Have Told Me b/w Don't Want To Be Your Fool 1002 Mr Clean - Go Away Little Girl b/w What's Going On 1003 Rush & Gross - City Of Soul b/w Love Power 1005 Janis & Prince - Patricia (Here I Come) b/w Love And Devotion 1007 Mr Clean - Go Away Little Girl b/w What's Going On Soul Harmony singles....... 101 The New Yorkers - Don't Want To Be Your Fool b/w You Should Have Told Me 102 The New Yorkers - Ain't That News b/w There's Going To be A Wedding

Scans of Mr Clean from ebay.....

Here's the topic from 2011

Some qulaity modern Soul from the days of Stafford from Robin salter in the latest podcast telling the Story of the Stafford All-nighters. https://www.soulunderground.co.uk/StaffordTOTW/files/fd493fd05781b1632d93fa6149a74960-21.html Pro-Fascination - Try Love Again - MOT (Robin's first record he played at TOTW) Willie Johnson - What Am I Gonna Do Without Your Love - Savannah Int. Target - Give Me One More Chance - Kama Larry Wedgeworth & Clique - No More Games - Groovehall Records (Boston Celtics) Lifestyle - Trying To Make It Up To You - MCA Terry Callier - I Don't Want To See Myself - Erect Michael Prowtle - What You're Looking For Is Here - Castle Mind And Matter - Under Your Spell - M&M The Bitter And The Sweet - I Won't Have Any Babies For You - The Anything, Everything Records Prophecy - Rain In My Life - All Platinum Allan Harris & Perpetual Motion - Get Ready - Exact Change Frederick - Move On - Heat Oscar Perry - Just What You Ordered - New Horizon Dysons Faces & Hard Times - Welcome To All This Love Again - DDR LP Sammy Gaha - Thank You, Thank You - Right On Sir Henry Ivy - He Left You Standing There - Future Dimension Charisma Band - Ain't Nothing Like Your Love - Buddah Florence Trapp - Love Came Into My Life - You And I Frankie Sanders - Take Another Love - Juana

two great sides.....

That looks like vinyl to me.... I have Harold Melvin on Dash in my hands and it is pretty thin but that is vinyl and looks like the scan above.

Richard at the Mecca....

The Sweets Satisfy Me Baby is great as well as is the George Freeman video.

you only have to look at popsike to see the range in prices paid for some records, like Bob said sometimes on the same day. So many dealers and collectors alike have given up on ebay as well. How many times do you see two lunatics trying to outbid each other for a particular record. If an auction was the only source and the records were one offs, bit like a painting then yeah I'd agree with you. But you only have to see what dealers price a particualr record, professional and part time dealers at that. The shop floor so to speak is the best indicator of a price.

99.9% certain the other New Yorkers exists and I've seen it, long time ago. I was sure I'd seen a copy with all the label intact but it was JM who I'm sure who last had the one with the label missing who said it was a one known copy. I'll see if I can find the topic where we discussed it. PS Just read Robb's post.

look for the post by Neil Rushton for how they came about.....

I find Gemm expensive simply because of the charges added by Gemm. I used to go direct to the Gemm seller. Many seem to be moving to Discogs as well these days.

Someone either will be Lucky or disappointed, been sold for $2400

nice one, if you do you can use my mixcloud to upload? I'll have a look at Ellie's ipad and laptop see if you can access the files directly via windows. You can't on a mac.

n'er mind Andy, hopefully Bryney will check in and sort the recording from his iPad.

a topic here with a download of a booklet about the Grapevine label.

Here is one auctioned in 2007, $1700 Here's another of the flip...

It works both ways. Many auction items from whichever auction can often be found cheaper with a dealer, not just JM but most dealers. You also find auction items that sell for a pittance or less than the market value but a dealer will have it on offer at the full market value. Auctions have never really been a true reflection of a records real value. Sales boxes, lists and dealer prices are a better reflection of a 45's worth, that is where more buying and selling is done.

I see it is in France, if that is right he got it from Luckey Davis himself, more than one...or should I say some were sold to someone in France. Luckey was selling one last week in a presentation case. Think I asked on here a while back if anyone was interested in one.