Chalky

Yes and those 2 or 3 (is there that many?) that are discussed are more often than not highly sought after and so would have been noticed by most, especially those that are in a position to pay big money on a disc. As for the other 5 quid boot for a ton I don't know why they still cause a fuss as they are commonplace these days.

Thanks for those Dave, fabulous stuff

Like I said Nev this has been an issue for years and will be for years to come. I can remember topics like this on Mike's old Soul Talk e-mail group years ago. But in reality I doubt very much what is said on here will have little bearing on the outcome of a record on ebay. Most of the records I see in topics like this being complained about are records most will know about, rare, obscure high end Soul records, most of them highly sought after. The Vivian Jones for example didn't need a link in a topic, it is in the adverts at the side. Most the big players know what is on ebay, plenty know every record up for sale on ebay, they spend a couple of hours a day looking at every listing. I've missed out on many, but I've bid what I think it is worth to me, if I lose out I move on.

Like I said Callum, this issue as old as ebay and email chat groups/soul forums....all you can do is bid what you think it is worth to you, if others have more money than sense then that is up to them at the end off the day. Plenty more fish in the sea as they say

Maybe sounds better played out loud than it does over a laptop. Would you feel the same if it was a tenner? Like you say each to their own. I don't think you will ever stop people talking about live ebay auctions, or any other for that matter. People are on here to talk about the scene and records and this issue has been about as long as soul forums and ebay have been about, right back to the old e-mail based chat groups.

All you can do is bid what you think a record is worth. I doubt Soul Source has too much influence in what happens on ebay, yes some will pick up on an auction because of talk on here but it's usually top end stuff most will know about. It's the stuff Benji mentions that are misplaced in other sections you don't want highlighting.

Charles Johnson has been known about a long time. Andy Dyson had it long tome ago, sold one to Karl Heard and along with Ted was spinning the disc all over so it was bound to get noticed and fetch big money the next time it came available. It's happened for years that way with current indemanders. As for Vivian Jones can't see what the fuss is all about, it's not great is it, average light weight (as Joel called it) R&B As for posting ebay links, well the Vivian Jones is in the box at side of forum and most who watch bay will know about it or will do so buy time the auction ends. Besides how do you expect Mods to moderate ebay links if discussion of live auctions was banned? We have enough to do as it is at times.

I've added a "iTunes Subscription" button/link. Can someone kindly test it for me

I don't keep funds in my account, or not enough so yes it does cost me to use the gift option. Usually it comes from my CC. The gift option is used so the seller avoids any fees or costs. If you deal for a living the cost of ebay and paypal fees should be incorporated into the cost of the sale and not expect buyers to pay extra if they have insufficient funds in their account. Now I'm aware of the consequences of the "gift " option I don't think I will be using it unless I trust the seller. What does it cost a seller if the "goods" option is used?

There's usually bugger all in my account and I'm pretty sure when I've used 'gift' it has cost me. I've only used "gift" option with people I know.

I'd be even more wary now that this "loophole" has been highlighted Why do sellers not just add a percentage or meet the buyer halfway and use "goods'. It costs the buyer extra to use paypal as gift!

Thanks Melismo, glad you are enjoying it. I've little time at minute for doing these but hopefully will get some more up shortly. Got some Stafford stuff almost sorted, 60's and modern side of it, just need the time to sit down and mix them and upload etc. Hopefully there will be an iTunes link soon. Off to garden centre soon, got to dig a pond

Gutted, such a shame after all he's been through inn his life. he was back in the studio and enjoying life again. I got a couple of demo's through the post from Bob Wilson of his new upcoming release "Soul Survivor' featuring "Pain In My Heart" and "The Itch". I reviewed the tracks last year for Lattimore and Bob Wilson after they approached Mike. https://www.soul-source.co.uk/articles/soul-reviews/soul-survivor-sir-lattimore-brown-r2037 R.I.P. Lattimore

Saus was at the Wilton Friday night with Claire. He rarely if ever goes anywhere these days. Usually the Wilton every few years.

I used to play this at Lifeline years ago, rarely heard out although it's been around years. Think mine one sided demo? Seen it through ebay for as low as £6.

Capitol bought audiodisc/audio devices in 1972. You can read the story here https://www.apollomasters.com/story.html

Quite a few did Ian, same with Virtue, even in recent years.

I know full well what who Audiodisc are. Liberty may have bought blanks from other companies but the Liberty ones I've seen have been their won label as in the other topic. Are you saying it's real Trev?

Be honest, was it ever likely to be genuine? The first time I saw the listing on ebay it looked like a fake, it shouted out boot!! The more looked into and the more it was discussed it looked even more like a fake. the label, the fact that neither was released as a 45 Stateside, one in the UK and the other French/Italian. they were from different sessions, so why would they be on a studio acetate in the states?

Yes but liberty as shown in other topic use their own acetates they wouldn't send a track to New York. Look at the other evidence. All points to a fake.

I don't think I've ever seen a record listed as z boot. eBay don't allow the word boot that's why they use reissue. 70s press I'd misleading, it gives it some sort of legitimacy. Reissue would have been a better word. Sad thing is someone will probably pay the money.

I would file a dispute with eBay/paypal if the seller refuses to play ball.

From the scans at the time of the sale it looks like a fake IMO. Liberty wouldn't use audiodisc in new York especially being a west coast company. Delores is if memory serves me correctly a European release only, doubt it was done at same session as It'll Never Be Over For Me and therefore doubt it would be on same acetate. If it was me I would file a claim. You could always be cheeky and use the size as an issue. You can get acetates done at various places on the net. Have you got it now? How new does it look? It looked pretty new from the scans.

From the scans at the time of the sale it looks like a fake. Liberty wouldn't use audiodisc in new York especially being a west coast company. Delores

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