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Still looking if anyone can help - ta!

It states at top "seller ended auction due an error in the listing" or something. So you can stop kicking yourselves in the shin, you didn't miss Terry Callier for $0.99... Not quite sure what the point in making public the number of watchers is. No doubt to start a bidding frenzy, if you know loads of people are watching. Ending in higher end price, resulting in more cash for ebay. Ah, I knew there'd be a simple enough reason... I've sold a few records with watchers up the hundreds, Vince. Mostly classical, and they like a good old last minute sniping frenzy!

I was thinking about "top-end price matching" the other day. Where people check popsike or whatever, see a record has hit £200 and think "well, I'll ask £200, then..." What they don't factor in is that the original seller didn't even get £200 - they got £200 minus ebay's 10% minus paypal's 4% - so it's more like £172. So, they think they can get even more for a copy without having 1000s of people seeing it. Just a fascinating little insight into greed, there, folks...

Thanks Simon, that's the one. Out of interest, was it played as an example of the kind of sound the northern fans hated? Just curious, thought it sounded great!

Interesting topic... I often wonder about the obsession with owning objects, that goes along with this scene. I'll bet there's loads of members on here who get an urge to hear a tune, know it'll take about an hour to find it, so just listen to it off youtube instead. Which begs the question - why is owning the artefact SO important? It IS an addiction, much as people like to joke about it. If I ever have a day off work, a day record shopping is first thing planned. At least once a week I'll go to a carboot sale. Pretty much every day I'll check a charity shop and spend time on ebay or checking sales lists on here. If I decided to give up, I'd have a lot of time to devote to something else. But, as Pete points out, what? It's handy that records are all basically the same shape and size, since my house would be a total mess otherwise. Imagine collecting antique vases or cars?

Phew! I feel like I spent more time reading this thread than watching the programme... So feel obliged to add my tuppence worth. As a proud Glaswegian I can't help but feel parallels with the Commonwealth Games opening ceremony - everyone I know found it a massive embarassment. But it seems like everyone else around the globe loved it... As has been previously mentioned - a Friday night hour long programme ISN'T aimed at members on here. It was aimed at your average viewer, and I think the average viewer would pretty much get the gist of what northern soul is about... What was the song playing about 50 minutes in, during the "Levine must go" section - can't put my finger on it.

Exactly, most £500 records - if you want one, and have the cash, they can be located quite easily. The cheapies, nobody can be bothered rooting about in their warehouses for a £10 single. But I have every faith in the Soul Source community!

Hey y'all! Looking for: 45 THE IMPRESSIONS "Inner City Blues" b/w "We Must Be In Love" (Curtom) It's the flip-side I want it for, so not interested in the promo copies with "Inner City Blues" on both sides. Shouldn't be too hard to find a nice condition one reasonably cheap? Any PMs much appreciated...

When was the last time Manship had one?!

Reading the description, he neglects to actually give the record a grade. M- or EX. Might send him a message, just to clarify...

Saint Etienne's Bob Stanley wrote a feature in The Guardian today... https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/jun/27/souls-holy-grail-why-the-rarest-record-in-the-world-is-causing-so-much-fuss

FOR SALE: BERRY STREET STATION feat. CAROLYN SULLIVAN "I Don't Care No More" b/w "King Bee" (Le Cam) M- £40 (inc. P&P) RESERVED Great double sider, with the down-tempo downer classic "I Don't Care" aka "Dead", backed with a great mod instrumental (same as "Funky Funky" by Betty Brooks) - has sold on ebay for £100. Nice condition, Paypal preferred. PM to reserve, thanks! Soundclips and scans here: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mod-New-Breed-R-amp-B-45-BERRY-STREET-STATION-King-Bee-I-Don-039-t-Care-No-More-Le-Cam-/271501628174?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item3f36c2130e&nma=true&si=QynI9wEgysOX6aa%252F6Chcv3MyEm4%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Personally, I think it's nobody's business what he paid for it. 50p, £50, £500... He said it was part of collection anyway. Obviously everybody on here is very soul focused, but London label collectors are a rabid bunch, who aren't very keen on demos. I would have thought ebay would be the only way to sell this, to get the full coverage and exposure it warrants. If two soul fans want to offer £10k on a Manship auction, it'll go for £10k. If it got listed on ebay, both those soul fans would bid. Plus a whole load of rock'n'roll collectors and wealthy Russians and Japanese brain surgeons and investment bankers who earn £10k in a single day. There's a whole world of eccentric and rich nutcases out there who've never even heard of John Manship (sorry, John...) Congratulations Nick, just goes to show, never say never. Bet your PM box is burning red hot...

Marking a want as urgent always speeds up the whole process. Same as "willing to pay over Manship auction price" - that does the trick for me...

What a magnificent track, hope it gets some regular spins out and about. And doesn't end up gathering dust in some archive...

Something which always amazes me about ebay is items which fail to attract a bid, which get re-listed at a lower start price and then sell for MORE than the original asking price... I would definitely recommend dropping the price if a record fails to sell. OR re-listing as buy-it-nows, as you get 30 days to sell, not 7. I get the impression the whole nature of collecting has changed with the internet. Twenty years ago, owning the records and swapping tapes or whatever was the only way to hear this stuff. Which involved amassing big collections and lots of speculative purchases and "collection fodder". I'm not convinced anyone is really interested in "stuff for the collection", you can go on youtube and listen to tunes and just buy the records that you REALLY want. The music's all out there, you don't actually physically need to own it. People really just want stuff to DJ with, which on the whole means "big records".

Just saw this, nearly gave me the boak... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Two-Plus-Two-I-039-m-Sure-Look-Around-Velgo-DEMO-OSV003-/121284303323?pt=UK_Records&hash=item1c3d1b99db&nma=true&si=xuXgzPl4hJ8iQ4vn4x360ghjvfU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 As a UK first issue, is it acceptable to play this out? Ho ho!

Let me guess... Styrene pressing?

It doesn't justify the whole hike, but people are forgetting that ebay now take a 10% cut of the postage and paypal take 4% so if a seller charges an extra 14% on top of the cost price, plus the cost of the mailer, then they're only just covering their costs. in this case if the label stated $36, then $5 ebay and paypal fees plus cost of mailer, say $2 = $43 would be the cheapest a seller could charge and not be out of pocket... I know some people think these fees should be swallowed up by the seller, but if you're selling cheap records you might not even be making much in the first place. Just my opinion, like...

As just another person who never met him, and "merely" hugely respected his immense knowledge and enthusiasm, I wasn't going to post on here... But... upon reading the circumstances around his passing, and how young he was (I always assumed he must have been in his fifties or sixties due to his expertise) I felt compelled to post. My mind is flabbergasted at the sheer volume of information he accumulated in such a short time, and the fact that he didn't think his contribution would be remembered saddens me greatly. Such a shame. I am hoping that his family will be shown this thread and see the amount of respect he commanded, and the genuine fondness in which he was held in this community. And so my sympathies are with his family and friends at this tragic time...

This might sound really stupid and patronising, or very wise. But, when packaging records between cardboard, the bits of cardboard have to have the corrugations running perpendicular to each other. If you have two bits of cardboard and bend them, they tend to fold easily along the lines. If you rotate one of them by 90 degrees, THEN try to bend, you'll find that's where the strength comes from. Next week I'll be discussing whether using FRAGILE tape makes a blind bit of difference...

Curiouser and curiouser... My scepticism was based around the fact that this COULD have been a one-sided disc with a new recording of Margaret Little cut onto the flip - but the fact that it has two correct sides (albeit one of them unplayable) makes it seem far more genuine. Unless it was a totally blank acetate, BOTH sides got cut and the flipside was deliberately destroyed to make the story more believable, thereby double bluffing cynics like me who assumed it was a one-sided cut and shut. Doesn't matter if it's real or fake? That's like discussing religion and saying the existence of god is irrelevant!

I'm by no stretch of the imagination an expert BUT... I'd always be wary of an acetate which was conveniently unplayable on one side. Anyone could find some rubbish 60s country and western single sided acetate, cut a rare soul track on the blank side, mangle up the original track and "voila!" - original 60s soul acetate. I never really understand how an acetate would have NO information written on it either. Surely you'd write the song name on it, at least? Plus, if you were making a display in a store, why would you glue a record with a BLANK label up? Would you not use an old Motown single, or something with a bright label? And, Why was it found in Ohio??? There you go, my tuppence worth from a paranoid pessimistic cynic with a devious mind...

Thanks for the link. I saw them on discogs already but... Would prefer a US one! Nice and cheap, mind...

Got that AND the extended 12", want the 45!