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He has now (sorry I missed this thread)

Didn't SS use Monarch and pop in to Selectadisc and other such places and people in the UK in those days

My favourite on the label was from a main man (label owner, writer and producer as well) who I am trying to find out more about

Pseudonym of The Stovall Sisters

Label was a subsidiary of Galaxy (Max and Sol Weiss) which in turn was part of Fantasy. The brothers had a large habit of buying labels

The other member was Wylie Trass who sadly passed away on 12th January 2021 due to Covid. Wylie had been in a care home for dementia/Alzheimer’s the past year or so. Seems only fair to share his bio which was on facebook A little Wyle Trass history Wylie was born in Lake Providence, Louisiana and spent his youth between Lake Providence and Vicksburg, Mississippi where he attended school. His musical career began at an early age in Vicksburg singing in church. His first musical influence was a woman named Julia Lowe, who sang in the church choir with his mother. At the age of 14, his family moved to Berkeley, CA. where he started singing doowap on the street corners and recreation centers as well as singing gospel in church. In 1957 at the age of 19, he started singing with a group called "The Holidays" which consisted of Stan Harris, Kenneth Pleasant, John Foster, Isaiah Brown and Elton. They sang around the Bay area for a couple years. Wylie moved on to sing with a group called "The Five Warriors" that included Larry Fields, Howard Bullard, Eugene "Chico" Waters, and Henry Stevenson. They were all in the Navy except for Wylie, so when they had to leave Oakland, the group ended. Wylie then joined Ken Pleasant, Freddie Hughes, Billy Harrison, Marcellus Matthews and formed a gospel group called "The Five Disciples." They attended Ephesians Church of God and Christ in Berkeley, CA. and sang in the choir. After singing together for three years, the group changed their name to "The Four Rivers" where they started singing rock and roll. They replaced Billy Harrison and Marcellus Matthews with Connie Bailey. They began recording for Septor Records out of New York City and recorded their biggest record called "I Confess". The group worked with various artists including The Olympics, Ike and Tina Turner, Jimmy McCracklin, Johnny Taylor, Johnny Morisette, The Sharelles, Gary U.S. Bond, Bobby Bland, Marvin Gaye, T Bone Walker, Lowell Folsom, ZZ Hill and all local Bay area artists.After recording for various records labels over a period of four years and many major disappointments, the group went their separate ways. In 1965, Wylie started his own rhythm and blues band and worked throughout the Bay area including The Jay Payton Revue. Wylie and Connie Bailey worked at the Safari Room, a major San Jose supper club, for a year where they opened for such acts as Wayne Newton, The Ink Spots, Pearl Bailey, Nancy Wilson, Alan King, Rusty Draper, The Mills Brothers, Patti Page, Don Rickles, Steve Lawrence, Edye Gorme, Robert Goulette, Rodney Dangerfield and various other entertainers. After a year, Connie Bailey pursued other employment. Wylie teamed up with Freddie Hughes and formed a band called "The Cassanova II". They recorded for Fantasy Records, produced by Lonnie Hewitt and had a couple local hits, the most notable "We Got To Keep On." In 1969, Wylie started a band called "The California Soul Explosion" with Joseph "Bobo" Cotton, Richard MCCowan, Donald Mack, and Earl Slack. After two years together playing throughout California, the band began traveling across the country with The Ballads, a singing group from Oakland, CA. They toured and/or appeared at venues with such artists as The Isley Brothers, Joe Simon, The Stylistics, The Five Stair Steps, Gene Knight, Harold Melvin and The Blue Notes, Junior Walker, The Ohio Players, B.B. King, Billy Paul, The Detroit Emeralds, Vernon Garrett and various other people. In November of 1975, Wylie moved to Oklahoma City, Oklahoma where he started singing with a band called "The Saturday Night Blues Band". He worked throughout the upper mid-west and southwest playing nightclubs and dance halls. Wylie retired from singing for several years. In 1987, Wylie returned to the Bay Area and resumed his singing career; first with Beverly Stovall then eventually with The Bay Area Blues Society Caravan of Allstars and Ronnie Stewart. He also formed his own group which consisted of Bobby Young, Andy Dinsmoor, Shonka Shephard, and Tony Bledsoe.

I don't know why they have not got it correct, as it was launched (Automatic Shipping Policy) in September last year and it's not like they have had much to do 😀

Seems they might have been the Ref-O-Ree house band as you first said The Poncello story is merely one chapter in the bigger picture that is Ted Jarrett’s extraordinary career as a mover and shaker in Tennessee R&B. Poncello was founded by Jarrett in 1960, after he had started out as a staff producer with Nashville’s Republic label in the early 50s. Subsequently, Jarrett found success both as a songwriter and producer at the Champion and Cherokee imprints in the late 50s and later enjoyed considerable success when the Stones covered his You Can Make It If You Try. From the outset, Poncello was conceived as something considerably more ambitious. With a house sound that featured horns, strings and expanded rhythm sections, its artist roster included Earl Gaines (whom Jarrett had brought with him from Champion), Gene Allison, his brother Levert, and Herbert Hunter (both of whom allegedly got their breaks standing in for Gene when he was too drunk to perform). Various artistsH Along with its Valdot and Spar imprints, Poncello was pretty much the archetypal 60s independent soul label. However, come 1967 Jarrett wound the label up with the funkier sound of tracks from the Tempo Rhythms, anticipating the template of his next label, Ref-O-Ree.

There was a thread about it here

James claimed a production credit, wonder who did produce it then ?

Mike You may please know who to shout out to (best contacts on this site) about contacting Curtis from this article who founded Grand Land with Palmer James. He appears to have a connection with this below link but I have no idea how to contact him and he is a possible to solve the artist details of Jimmy Mack once and for all (this could be our best shot, although he may not have been involved with Palmer records) https://www.wktvjournal.org/tag/west-michigan-center-for-arts-technology/ Would love to know who is in the photo ?

Nice thread and informative So the Vault label (popcorn not paid?) 2 runs of the issue ? one with and one without address

That's 2 experts, why are these people not on here ?

John spends most of his life now on Facebook so I would ask him on there Paul if you are a member Also Discogs often have the correct info but not perhaps the correct images (other submitters can add them later) or the correct images and wrong data Pete Smith on here is another good person to ask

Do we know which came first The New Establishment or The Randalls and why the name change ?

£800 - £1000

The reissue has the cat# in handwritten autopen style on the dead wax as opposed to being "machine stamped" on the original

2 were, on Ebay (popsike), but the rest weren't more than the demos, I wished I had grabbed a couple

I get that, I don't understand why the demos are so much more expensive though when there are so many more of them

I know he covered it up but I am sure someone found out it was Little Ann for real, (I am sure I read it somewhere) but I could be wrong

You all did now it is Little Ann pseudonym ?

I am pretty sure there were 2 stock copies One was a single line title and the other 2 lines East and west coast ? Always around £100- £150 and much rarer than the demo, which is odd

Cynthia Holiday used to have private lessons from Rita and I guess she will have lots of info for you as well This is her website https://www.cynthiaholidaymusic.com/biography.html

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