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I tried to lead the help and Gilly corrected me about Chicago (thanks) the Engineer was Stuart Walder, Universal Recording Studio in Chicago who was doing the Dee Dee stuff, but now I am stuck, so we need others who have more knowledge than me.......hopefully I do wonder if the label was named after this lady, or would that be to obvious

Ms Lamar may have been Chicago based, but vocalists from all over the US recorded in Chicago

Strange we have 2 people called Lamar and not much info about them, it's a shame

100 % correct the original was blue label and rare as hens teeth, the yellow one was 1989

Which means I am wrong then with the New York connection and Bobby. I did think at one stage that Bill Meeks was from Texas, but then I am often wrong

I know that mate, I meant all the potential, Bobby Robinsons !!!! I do wonder if I am right as there is also a credit for a D. Robinson on one of the labels and this article mentions his brother Danny https://www.tinymixtapes.com/news/rip-bobby-robinson-record-producer-songwriter-happy-house-owner

Here we go again, I know a few people called Gilly 😀

It would be lovely to get some detail on Valerie, if Bobby is correct then this link is about him, he passed in 2011 His brother was Danny https://www.theguardian.com/music/2011/feb/21/bobby-robinson-obituary

Is this Bobby Robinson AKA Morgan Clyde Robinson

Fantastic article here https://www.georgiasoul.com/gasoul/article2bartell.html

I think this is high on the list

Interesting thread , sorry I was not a member until recently, why did you do this Mike 😀 Interesting writers credits here And they did it here.......bless !!!! Looks now as if United Artists got confused and used Kui Lee credit . An easy mistake do we think ? This is the actual Kui Lee track

Sorry, I was trying to help and you never said you had checked on Popsike or I would have known 😃 What is about the results that you say is not telling the whole picture, I am confused, I have very rare records that I think are worth a fortune in my collection , but it doesn't mean they are always

https://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php?searchtext=Wanda+McDaniel&sortord=

Interesting that point ( I will hopefully get to the bottom of it) Anyway here's a couple, Goldleaf was apparently Charles's label https://www.carolinasoul.org/site/index.php/site/comments/happy_birthday_nolla_mainor/

Here's a bit more...... Label owned by Charles

I will let you know....promise

This what we have so far During his high school years, Charles O. Johnson developed a reputation for being a high achiever. He was extraordinarily articulate, always well-informed and academically gifted. As a matter of fact, he graduated valedictorian of his high school class. He is remembered by old school mates as having such polished social graces that he could relate across racial lines in ways that some could not. In his early adolescent years, he would sit out on his front porch on Highway 481 and listen to WCBS of New York and WLAC of Nashville, TN. That is where he got the radio bug. These far-away stations were the first to put songs on the air that catered to the black audience. The announcers were often black professionals who always seemed to enjoy their work. Our Founder In an Enfield, NC grocery store, a young bagger decided there had to be mjore to life than bagging groceries. Some people dream of making a name in LA or Detroit or New York, not Charles O. Johnson. He dreamed of making a difference in Nash, Edgecome, and Wilson counties. He became a homegrown phenomenon in his own time. Charles' idea was simply to get his foot in the door of radio. His first step with radio was as a janitor. Eventually, he got an announcer's position with a station in Scotland Neck, NC. To further his career, he moved on to station WCEC-WFMA locally (Rocky Mount). Club 810 became synonymous with Charles O. Johnson, the radio personality. It gave him and identity apart from everyone else locally and allowed him to reach the black audience in a way that had not been done. The program included Charles' unmatched commentary and exceptional music from black artists from everywhere in the country. He began to sponsor acts in local shows as well as hgih notoriety acts. He had gained credibility with such artists as Smokey Robinson, James Brown, Joe Tex, and others. Charles' growth did not stop there. He also became a manager of a group known as Mel & Tim that he had booked in local clubs. He produced a song titled "Starting All Over Again." This song became a hit record for Mel & Tim (later released by Hall & Oates). They went on to produce another hit record titled "Backfield in Motion." In 1988, Charles realized a dream he had for many years. Charles got the opportunity to arrange a purchase of stations WRSV 92.1 FM and WEED 1390 AM. Both of them operated under the same roof. Charles had been with these stations for a number of years and saw an opportunity to become an owner and general manager. Under his tutelage, both radio stations have grown in listenership. https://members.tripod.com/sdeej_99/founder/ And a nice photo him at the radio station https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=cOWO-ahOKlwC&pg=PA36&lpg=PA36&dq=wrsv+North+Carolina+charles+johnson&source=bl&ots=_rI0jfFfut&sig=ACfU3U0dhootBkmxnqCzBmXQtDWT2YsdVg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj5j4a50r_oAhWBY8AKHYuOAMIQ6AEwBXoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=wrsv North Carolina charles johnson&f=false

That is spot on (as usual you are so good) and Chuck is helping me prepare a bio (hopefully), this link lead me to his son, let's hope he some info on the Saints, unless it's been covered here before 😃, don't you wish he has all his father's memorabilia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRSV From a Janitor to all this, the paths. the paths

This is Charles and I waiting for his son to come back with more info as he passed a few years ago

Nice and the correct Andre Montell credit......at last, thanks

Hunting around and I am with Karl on this so far (brilliant that you lead me down this route), I found this article which mentions the Production (J.A.J.) on The Charles Brandy, Andre Motell (pictured) and makes sense as they are clearly the writers as in Tammy Wayne (Ansler/Andre Montell) and Kurtis Scott I do wonder though how the RSD reissue ? managed to be so far out on the credit A. Merrill ? https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=KBIEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA26&lpg=PA26&dq=J.A.J.+Productions+mgm&source=bl&ots=3StDp0T0sS&sig=ACfU3U3NcxPXKky9jxi45HAjKgXq5eB3xA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjwnI6SzrzoAhXRiVwKHeDzBdMQ6AEwG3oECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=J.A.J. Productions mgm&f=false I wonder if this was him who has sadly passed away last year https://www.royalfhmiami.com/obituary/6438638 https://www.facebook.com/1157345677662180/posts/sad-to-hear-that-mr-andre-montell-passed-away-he-is-a-music-legend-who-has-worke/2489121961151205/ https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=yTshAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA1262&lpg=PA1262&dq=ansler+montell+andre&source=bl&ots=R5_3EtEIMS&sig=ACfU3U2uCcAIHUPqjcVhLA4zJy90psTWUA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiwloKN07zoAhXLgVwKHfsCAsQQ6AEwBnoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=ansler montell andre&f=false

There was Charles Johnson, "Rocky Mount" who somehow connected (somehow) to Mel And Tim (you are really testing me now) and that's were I thought the connection was and both these sides were release on Grapevine G2K 45-148 2004