Modernsoulsucks

Im not denying there was as you put it a "seamier side", although I'd be more inclined to say it was more a rough edge but I think by the time Wigan opened a lot of that had gone because the older guys had moved on and out. Torch and Va Va and a few Wigans were probably the end of the line for most of those who'd gone to the Wheel. The guys around Manchester when I was getting into it around '69 had mostly disappeared by 1974. I guess to younger people they may have appeared intimidating and some would take advantage of that but considering the make-up of that pre-Wigan scene it was still trouble free compared to a night out at the local disco with the boozed up morons. ROD

Leaving aside Milliontears choice of language I have to agree with him. It looks forced and unnatural. Im guessing the TV studio bit is loosely based on Grundy v. Sex Pistols. I suppose you have to sex it up because basically unless you're involved it's just not that interesting to a wider audience. And what was that guff about spirit and soul in the voice-over at the end. Makes us seem like a load of new-agers searching for something to belong to when it was a night out where you could listen to music you liked. Exactly the same as any other lot going down the local disco. ROD

I picked up a copy of PR's "Hot and Wild" on Allegre for £1 from Oxford car boot on Sunday. ROD

Well if you welded a couple of handles onto this trophy you couldn't make it look any worse. ROD

But Kev if you sell something you bought because you liked it, but now you're selling it to buy something else you like just as much but couldn't afford without selling the first 45, then you're not really getting anywhere. And you can bank on hearing the 45 you sold at some later stage and regretting selling it. ROD

I'd noticed that Nev. I can understand getting rid of stuff they're no longer keen on as tastes change or a financial crisis but I am bemused by the "time to move on/freshen up from playbox" line. However I put most of that down to the price of records. Yes you can get something for peanuts if you're lucky or put the work in but let's face it if it's good it's gonna be expensive. Im not going to say to you I have a 45 that sounds as good as or better than anything currently played but it's £50 cos no one plays it. Im gonna want thousands. Anyone wanting to be at the top must be shelling out hand over fist unless they have contacts [who are oblivious to prices] or going regularly to US. ROD

I don't see prices coming down as particularly contributing to an air of "doom and gloom". Cheaper prices means the buyer can afford more records. Doom and gloom perhaps if the collector is bothered about the value of the collection they already have. Personally Im not. There's no doubt in my mind that demand and prices are not at the peak they were say back in 2005 but there are always exceptions. Actually not quite right, there is strong demand but peak prices are harder to get. I don't think this sale highlights any up or down trend. Without wishing to be too critical I think the buyer is a bloody imbecile. ROD

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Northern-Soul-45-PHONETICS-Just-Boys-Dream-HOLY-GRAIL-2-SIDER-Trundel-/160655492617 There you go. Now stay away from it. You've got enough to do repairing cracked records without having to go into the wider world of getting VG- 45s to look like they're brand new. ROD

$910! I do not understand that. At all! ROD

Kinda, although these posts could have ended up on the "Jane Austen Appreciation Society" site for all I knew when I pressed that button. ROD

Thought I'd move the majority of posts into this section as it's turned into a general discussion on price and availability of this once 50p 45. ROD

Members can view Soulylover's intoduction here ROD [forum mod]

If I get a cracked 45 I use Bonding Intensive Nitrate or Bin for short. I realise this is probably not much help. ROD

A find and a half. Well done. No guide sorry but a lot! ROD

Increased to 30 year ban!

Hello Everybody, First of all let me thank the Academy..... My first act as moderator is to thank you all for your kind words and encouragement and to hand out 25 year bans for Godzilla and Boba. Im firm but fair. Think Attila the Hun but without his redeeming qualities. As an occasional seller my main aim on here, apart from avoiding unnecessary spats [thank you Beeks - let's hope no modern soul fans take offence as with my avatar Im not going to be seen as particularly impartial], is to try and keep ads on that first page to hopefully get the maximum exposure for the seller. I know we have discussed this in the past and my perception is that most of you would agree with that. I trust we've all read the guidelines and tips. I'll be looking to merge multiple posts where I think one would suffice. And ensuring that inadvertent "bumping" does not take place. I will of course notify any member involved should I feel the need to do this Im looking forward to making a good job of this and it kinda makes up for never having been a prefect. Just how long does burning down the gym stay on one's record. As I said at the time PE teachers are ten a penny. In line with current professional working practices I will also be monitoring my own performance by talking things over with a bowl of fruit or a Pear Supervision Group as it's known. Finally I am always open to any concerns or suggestions to enable the forum to run more smoothly so please get in touch at any time apart from when "Supernatural" is on [10pm Wednesday] or you'll join Boba and Godzilla. ROD

Im confused too. Richard played other side at Wigan I'd guess from 77/78 on. Must admit don't recall him playing "Sweets" side but he may have done. As Wigan shut in '81 anything later is after him. ROD

For the Beach scene. ROD

Very very enjoyable Pete. Gonna listen to part one now. ROD

Chalky will recall that we were talking about Spoilers on GMC the other day and I said it was OK but I felt it was a bit ordinary compared to others from the time, to which he replied [after getting himself a copy] yes he could understand that but it sounded better than some of the stuff today. I think there is a truth there that in the hunt for upfront or different some less than ordinary records are being played. Or they were the last time I went out. Phil says:- Labels attached to everything which serve no constructive purpose. In this debate people are banging on about upfront etc but it is just a label because if you look where people are giving examples of upfront it encompasses records that I would certainly class as oldies like Bob Collins,Puzzles,Robert Parker or 45s that are current biggies I guess but have been around years like Joseph Webster and Arthur Willis. In other words upfront means nothing really as everybody has a different idea what it means. I can't remember where the place was that Phil listed all the records played. Im thinking people would assume it was an upfront night. It was just good records that were worth playing and Im pretty sure I didn't see anything that could be said to stray too far from the Northern template and would be alien to someone used to Top 500 oldies. ROD

This is true Bob and why you won't find 45s by "Ivar the Boneless and the Superiors" ROD

Billy F, I was stood outside Burnley 3 or so years back at 3.30am in January, in the cold and damp,having a fag, wondering what I was doing really, when I spied coming up the street these two old blokes. I thought to myself WTF are these two doing wandering the streets at this time. If I weren't here I certainly wouldn't be trudging around Burnley. They came into the allnighter. Beginning of mid-life crisis. Do I look like that? I must do. Too old for this sh*t rapidly followed and haven't been out since except for the one occasion. ROD

45s for sale. Grover Mitchell Take your time and love me JOSIE M- £15 SOLD Gene Chandler Think nothing about it WDJ [dh,Xol] EX [almost/couple small marks] £10 SOLD April Stevens Wanting you UK MGM EX [couple very faint lines off M-] £125 Styles Baby you're alive WDJ MODERN M- £40 Four Bars Waitin'on the right guy FALEW [white DJ?] EX £20 Jackie Wilson Haunted House BRUNSWICK M- £15 Kurtis Scott No No Baby DJ SURESHOT M- £10 Roy Redmond Aint that Terrible WDJ LOMA EX £20 Chandler/Acklin From the teacher... DJ BRUNSWICK VG+ [few marks but still nice copy] £10 Leaders You are the one I love DJ BLUE ROCK VG+ [still nice copy but with some slight label fading] £10 Palisades Make the night a little longer WDJ CHAIRMAN EX [sticker residue on label] [same as Ramona King, Tan Geers] £20 Sultans I wanna know WDJ ASCOT EX [Good Carolina type sound] £100 Bill Black Little Queenie LONDON UK M- [ 60's silvertop design] £40 Gene Chandler Nothing can stop me CONSTELLATION EX [stars design] £10 Chantells World of Soul SOUL KITCHEN M- [great instr like Saxie Russell to my ears] £25 Donald Jenkins Happy days DUCHESS M- [orig release of "My lucky day"]£50 SOLD Four Gents Tomorrow may never come ONCORE EX [rare Detroit group] £150 SOLD Cap-tans Tight skirts and crazy sweaters ANNA M- [white label design] £10 Ty Hunter Free ANNA EX [as above] £10 Dimensions He's a lover DJ D-TOWN M- [rare Detroit] £200 Jimmy Delphs Almost KAREN M- [multicolored] £10 SOLD Betty Lavette Almost KAREN M- [multicolored] £15 SOLD Couple of Albums Ruby Andrews Black Ruby £100 Sleeve is around VG+ but not tatty. Vinyl Ex to M- inc "Just loving you" Ruby Andrews Everybody saw you. £50 Sleeve is about Ex and vinyl Ex+ Please PM if interested Thanks

So Ged deliberate deception then. Used to know abloke who collected World War II mines. He said it was quite easy. ROD

Ged, This is the guy who used to be at Bury quite a lot? He didn't strike me as the font of all knowledge so you may have been a little hard on him. He could have asked on here though. ROD