Robbk

McDougall was Motown's rep in philly for many years. Kim Fowley (of all people!) was their sales rep in L.A. during 1959-62.

Yes. I left a LOT of great records unbought because I couldn't afford to pay more nickles, dimes, quarters and half-Dollars for more records. I'd be a multi-millionnaire in Pounds Stirling, Euros and Dollars many times over, if I had just added one hundredth of the $1 records I passed up.

I suspect that they were a local Detroit group. I never heard anything about their names, or if they appeared in any of the Detroit venues back in the mid '60s.

Yes. and he recorded a great song for Marvello Records in 1964, "Who Told You (I Love You)" -found on a studio acetate. I like that even more than "I'll Rescue You". I've never seen the Flute release, but I may have heard it on You Tube. But, it isn't there now. Can anyone upload an MP3 of it? hearing mid '60s (sweet-sounding) Chicago Soul I've never heard is a rare treat for me.

I listened to it, and it doesn't sound like Detroit to me. I don't hear any of the recognisable session players. Don't get me wrong, I admit I don't know almost ANYTHING about '70s music. But, with a New York publisher, an artist not known to be a Detroit artist (or IS he?), a label not known to be a Detroit label (or IS it?),and a sound that doesn't sound "Detroitish" (at least to me), I'm a little skeptical. So, Bob, is there information you haven't written on this thread that helps you make the decision that there's a decent possibility that the record was recorded in Detroit? I always thought that Ronnie West was an East Coaster. And that might jibe with the New York publishing company. Did you see the Goins Records label listed somewhere as Detroit? I'm not trying to play the devil's advocate here. I'm just trying to learn.

I guess that "I'll Rescue You" was a dead rare record. Maybe Bombay didn't have a distributor, and Bob Catron just drove around in his car, delivering them to record shops in Chicagoland? Ha! Ha! he probably drove past me on the street, and I didn't know he had all those nice Flash McKinley and Fascinators' records in his trunk! Bah! Humbug!

Man, - that cut, "I'll Rescue You" is right up my alley. Too bad it wasn't released as a Bombay single. I'd have picked it up in 1964 or 1965 at United Record Distributors. Bombay produced some nice music. It's a shame that none of it sold much.

I can vouch for the fact that Rod knew about it in the late '70s, as did Dave Withers and all the Brits I knew. I had it on the US album. The "fast version" you know might be off a doctored (fast-pitched) recording studio demo or acetate, to come up with a 'unique" copy. I don't remember hearing that there were 2 different versions.

I found it in a 3-for-a Dollar cut-out bin at Beverly Records in 1967.

Are you sure it's Detroit? Where did you get that information? Givens is a Detroit label. I never heard of Goins being located in Detroit. What year was the record released? It doesn't look like a '60s Detroit font. I don't remember Goins Records on any list of Detroit labels. including Graham's or the other major Detroit label lists. Can somebody post an MP3 of at least snippits of the cuts? I'd like to see if I can hear Detroit session players in the instrumental.

Was that a '70s release? What label?

The musicians sound a little like a few of the late '60s Detroit musicians. So, IF we find out that this recording was made in Detroit, I won't be terribly shocked. But sound can fool you sometimes, and people like Richard Tee in New York, sometimes 'simulated "The Detroit Sound" several times, very successfully. I'll be curious to find out who made this recording, and where it was made.

I think the vocal by Luther is very good.

Sorry to hear that. He was one of my favourites. His music will keep his memory alive for generations after this.

As a former co-owner of a small-independent record company (label), I can tell you that small labels are also faced with almost all those problems and decisions you mentioned above.

Here's a studio demo for the 1970 O'Retta release:

Yes, that listing for Mr. Clean on 1002 is probably an inaccurate (bogus) listing. Now, I don't remember if my New Yorkers' on Radio City was in the 100 series or the 1000 series. But when I bring up the image in my mind, 1000 "looks more correct". I don't recall seeing a Radio City New Yorkers on 100 or 101. I can't help but wonder if the New Yorkers on Radio City weren't ALL on 1001 and 1002 BEFORE the change to Royal Knights, and then repressed on both same numbers, as The Royal Knights.