Apologies if this has been done before but I've found a copy of 'Cause You're Mine' on e-Bay but I'm not sure it's an original.

Obvious differences are a different shade of yellow, the addition of the word 'STEREO' above the '45 RPM ' on the left hand side and the 'Epic marca reg' etc in lower case rather than upper case.

I don't want to spend £100 on a boot so could anyone assure me that what I've seen is an original but just a different press?

Looks safe as houses to me..

Not booted according to JM's guide.

Not booted according to JM's guide.

Was reissued on CSP, but I think there was a boot done six or seven years ago. Might be wrong.

Was reissued on CSP, but I think there was a boot done six or seven years ago. Might be wrong.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VIBRATIONS-CAUSE-YOUR-MINE-OKEH-/290671599024?pt=UK_Records&hash=item43ad609db0

I had one like this a few years ago and it was dreadful sound quality...hissed all the way through.

Edited March 31, 201213 yr by trog

US ORIGINAL The vibrations cause your mine northern soul 45 (7" vinyl)

Start Time: 02/11/2012 End Time: 02/18/2012

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collectors frenzy

ricky.

issued in 69 hense the mono and stereo copies

one of those records I sold for about 40 quid thinking i'd easily get another for a tenner.

Apologies if this has been done before but I've found a copy of 'Cause You're Mine' on e-Bay but I'm not sure it's an original.

Obvious differences are a different shade of yellow, the addition of the word 'STEREO' above the '45 RPM ' on the left hand side and the 'Epic marca reg' etc in lower case rather than upper case.

I don't want to spend £100 on a boot so could anyone assure me that what I've seen is an original but just a different press?

Please read this from Select 45 :

Don't know how accurate it is, but it starts:

"Buying Vinyl today, you really do need to be sure you are actually buying the Original"

Original Pressings Info

Original Pressings Info

"Stereo added to a label of older music often means a 70s press especially if the music is playing in Mono, look at your yellow Epic copy of Vibrations 'Cause You're Mine' with Stereo added & then you'll see it's an early 70s press, not the 1969 one which had narrower & smaller typeface! Stereo 45s do exist from 1958, but will be easily proved originals from other factors."

Mick

Thanks for the replies. I've decided to wait until a 1969 (mono) press comes up for sale rather than buy the stereo version.

This here's my baby! Loverly!!!!

I don't have books with me that will enable me to check, but the matrix number of the 'stereo stock copy' would start with JSS rather than JSP if the single had been issued in stereo originally (which it wasn't). Columbia/Epic did not start releasing commercial 45s in stereo until well into 1970 (although I believe that mono/stereo demos of certain titles might have already been dropped into the market in '69).

I don't have books with me that will enable me to check, but the matrix number of the 'stereo stock copy' would start with JSS rather than JSP if the single had been issued in stereo originally (which it wasn't). Columbia/Epic did not start releasing commercial 45s in stereo until well into 1970 (although I believe that mono/stereo demos of certain titles might have already been dropped into the market in '69).

I take it you mean zsp? my stereo copy has stamped matrix zsp139197-1h so that will be a 70's re-issue?

I take it you mean zsp? my stereo copy has stamped matrix zsp139197-1h so that will be a 70's re-issue?

No, I mean ZSS - that is to say, if 'Cause You're Mine' had been issued in stereo originally, the matrix number would have started with those three letters.

ZSP was Columbia's mono matrix designation. I'm not sure why the 70's repress would have the ZSP prefix. Is it actually IN stereo or does it just say stereo on the label?

Please read this from Select 45 :

Don't know how accurate it is, but it starts:

"Buying Vinyl today, you really do need to be sure you are actually buying the Original"

Original Pressings Info

Original Pressings Info

"Stereo added to a label of older music often means a 70s press especially if the music is playing in Mono, look at your yellow Epic copy of Vibrations 'Cause You're Mine' with Stereo added & then you'll see it's an early 70s press, not the 1969 one which had narrower & smaller typeface! Stereo 45s do exist from 1958, but will be easily proved originals from other factors."

Mick

This is an interesting website, thanks for posting.

No, I mean ZSS - that is to say, if 'Cause You're Mine' had been issued in stereo originally, the matrix number would have started with those three letters.

ZSP was Columbia's mono matrix designation. I'm not sure why the 70's repress would have the ZSP prefix. Is it actually IN stereo or does it just say stereo on the label?

States stereo on the label but plays in mono

Edited April 3, 201213 yr by Gogs

If anyone wants to hear CYM in stereo (and a longer version of it to boot!) it's available on the Vibrations Okeh/Epic CD that I put to gether on Kent a few years back...

If anyone wants to hear CYM in stereo (and a longer version of it to boot!) it's available on the Vibrations Okeh/Epic CD that I put to gether on Kent a few years back...

Shouldn`t this be in the "Records that go on and on and on" thread.

Buy it on UK direction LP - NO qualms of a boot there and you can play it out from it because its the only original UK issue

There is no way on earth that a yellow Epic "Cause You're Mine" can be classed as a reissue. That's like saying a record is a second issue because they changed the typeface for it's second pressing run.

Hi Pete,

I took the exact same copy to JM's thinking it was a boot/ re issiue and he very kindly pointed out that it was the genuine article.

Cheers Andy

Thanks for that ! now i know i bought the genuine article

Cheers

Eric

Ok have we all decided that my "stereo" label that has a proper zsp matrix stamped in, but plays in mono is an original?

Ok have we all decided that my "stereo" label that has a proper zsp matrix stamped in, but plays in mono is an original?

Well, I certainly haven't - an original reissue maybe, but not an original per se.

As I said before, Columbia and their associated labels were not yet issuing stereo 45s when CYM came out, so there is no reason that the word stereo would appear on the label of this or indeed any of their 45s, whether by accident or design,

It may not be a bootleg, but it's certainly some kind of re-press.

I think all those that came out on CSP were proper releases, Lynne Randell, French Fries, The Poppies etc etc

I've had about 5 or 6 of these over the years never noticed one with "STEREO" on it. It's probably more "original" that the 2nd pressing of Jackie Lee - Darkest days.