Ok, i have been reading quite a few threads on here and many of them mention "covering up" records. Just wanting to know ive got the right idea by what is meant by this.

If a DJ back in the day had a new find, would he possibly cover it up with a different title and artist so that other "rival" djs would be sent on a wild goose chase when trying to find such tracks? Or if the track was by an artist that wasnt really seen as that credible, would it get covered up by using an artist who had another big dancefloor track to help break it?

Jordan

God that's awful!

 

A very mediocre B side band jam!

Hi again Steve I can't put thing's up on computors as I don't know how to do it but if possible (not just Steve but anyone that's intrested)look up and play the instrumental of the Feathers version of Lost Summer Love (Bell u.k).This was a cover up around coalville/Ashby area's around late seventies it was covered as The Bell orchestra and was very popular for a while , I have to confess that I like it (I'll get stoned to death at next soul event) because it does have some big early memories for me .Regards anominus.

Hi again Steve I can't put thing's up on computors as I don't know how to do it but if possible (not just Steve but anyone that's intrested)look up and play the instrumental of the Feathers version of Lost Summer Love (Bell u.k).This was a cover up around coalville/Ashby area's around late seventies it was covered as The Bell orchestra and was very popular for a while , I have to confess that I like it (I'll get stoned to death at next soul event) because it does have some big early memories for me .Regards anominus.

i dont know that 45..............i`m goin to seek it out and have a listen

So why was it part of the scene then and not now. What is the difference?

 

 

You have to accept also that what happened on our scene from the 70's onwards was a one-off due to many reasons and possibly will never be repeated,  until I suppose you have a large group of individuals who start liking a genre of music no-one appreciates initially  ...... again.

 

Besides - no-one today in their right mind will coverup any new material as it doesnt sell records ie. bring in any income - only record collectors will continue to do this for now as explained above

Edited March 15, 201312 yr by NSG

my memory is not so good but im sure there was a tune played mainly at Yate that was supposedly by Tom and Jerry that im sure was Simon and Garfunkle.

 

Tom & Jerry were definitely Simon & Garfunkel but they recorded in the late 50's/early 60's so probably not the same group.  There was Tom & Jerryo of course...

Just For You Pete

 

 

Boo Ga Loo

my memory is not so good but im sure there was a tune played mainly at Yate that was supposedly by Tom and Jerry that im sure was Simon and Garfunkle.

Owen Your memorys very good It was a old cover up of mine by the Golliwogs pre Creedence Clearwater Revival  "Call It Pretending" from  the Lp The  Golliwogs.

The dj wanted the record to stay exclusive to him for as long as possible!

 

The DJ did not want the bootleggers/pressings/ reissue people to know what the record was, until he had got some airplay out of it!!

 

In those days when a record was pressed/booted/reissued it was dropped from playlists immediatly!!!

Owen Your memorys very good It was a old cover up of mine by the Golliwogs pre Creedence Clearwater Revival  "Call It Pretending" from  the Lp The  Golliwogs.

just you tubed it and that sounds familiar

I liked the way they began giving cover up artists ridiculously stupid or private joke names.

Cant think of any examples, but i remember reading playlists in 'fanzines' or whatever you call them (un-official magazines) & literally laughing at the so called artists names.

Did i dream that?

Aid.

just a few points re c/ups from me:

1. yes, its about exclusivity. to have it as an exclusive play and to keep it esp in this day and age were new and exclusive tunes are so so hard to find as long as possible away from the risk of being bootlegged or re-released

2. wasnt it keb darge who used to mix the real identies of two new tunes in order to come up with two new c/up names ? clever and funny!

3. fun and creativity. its so enjoyable to come up with creative new c/up names: really think tim bowns lee crandle experience still takes some beating. one of mine is called Sweet Milliners as my lovely lady is a milliner and she loves the tune. one of my own latest I call Little Pam & The Sweet Sweetbacks..now heres a name for all you blaxploitation fans if ever there was one ! lol

4. In most cases I try to use a name of an artist that sounds similar to the c/up in question. in general a cover up name borrowed from an envogue artist helps to do the trick with a tune...until recently I used to have one called Joseph Webster..

5. it can be useful to cover up the dead rare as it is to cover up flipsides and overlooked cheapies...still some around out there.

dont take it all too serious! its meant to be fun

 

you wanna be careful talking about fun on here, some people might get offended, 

 

sweet sweetback you got a bad bad ass.   

You have to accept also that what happened on our scene from the 70's onwards was a one-off due to many reasons and possibly will never be repeated,  until I suppose you have a large group of individuals who start liking a genre of music no-one appreciates initially  ...... again.

 

Besides - no-one today in their right mind will coverup any new material as it doesnt sell records ie. bring in any income - only record collectors will continue to do this for now as explained above

young disciples did it in the 9ts, pete waterman in the 8ts, sharon jones did it with 'what have done for me lately', think they said it was an recently unearthed verion of the jj song, pmsl. it creates hype, and I'm sure other commercial artist's will use the ploy i'm the future.

One of my favorite cover up names I have ever heard was Soul Bros. Inc - Pyramid, was covered up as Mel Britt- Our Love Keeps Building 

Makes You Blind?

 

It's made me deaf as well.

Now all you people know why some of us stopped goin to blackpool and wigan

Yeah i know, but why bring it out by a group that already had a record out with that title ?.

 

Don't know, but I do remember that "Lonely For You Baby" by Sam Dees was covered up as "I'm So Lonely" by Dan Brantley - a record that actually exists, and must have had quite a few people buying it hoping to get the Sam Dees track!

Edited March 18, 201312 yr by Gene-R

I thought that was obvious ??

Firstly pseudo Motown tracks we call Northern Soul arent in continual supply regardless of what "IL" may want you to think with his "new" stuff, however as most of these tracks ( which were an up and coming artist trying to create their version of the Motown or localised sound at that time, mostly to get them out of poverty) have been unearthed which survived fire, abuse and total destruction - modern technology has now caught up with these records and most are now know by either iTunes, YouTube, SoundHound or Shazam for example unless there are on unknown acetate or mastertape etc and we haven't the strong influence of ppl like Simon Soussan for example sending us off at a tangent.

There isnt the bitter revelry between venues/jocks such as there was back then mainly refering to the "Casino vs Mecca, Ritz and Top Rank scenario, as I think most ppl including the djs are now simply interesting in getting a good mix of ppl together and most want to relive their previous Northern Soul experiences, have a good time listening & dancing to music they love and is ingrained into them as well as pass on to the those of the younger generation who unfortunately never experience what we did back then !

There are so many interesting & cheeky examples of what the OP was referring to such as Joe Matthews, William Lucus, Christine Cooper and Eddie Foster or for example as just recently learning who the Tomangoes really were ( Thanks GinoW ) - however for me now............ I am far more interested in what Russ put his letter to Soussan over in LA to make him have total priority over all others, when exclusivity really mattered - lol.

Lets just hope Searling's book soon to be realised adds further background & insight to those already published such as Tim Browns.

Did Searling ever play anything that wasn't a cover up ????????????????????

There was a lot more vinyl to discover back then so can see why DJs would want to keep their finds exclusive for as long as possible , there is no need to cover up records nowadays , most exclusives are acetates or one off copies so why keep it seceret ? Would love to know who 'You aint got a chance /Dianne Lewis' is really by

So why was it part of the scene then and not now. What is the difference?

There was a lot more vinyl to discover back then so can see why DJs would want to keep their finds exclusive for as long as possible , there is no need to cover up records nowadays , most exclusives are acetates or one off copies so why keep it seceret ? Would love to know who 'You aint got a chance /Dianne Lewis' is really by

 

So would I.

One of the best 'unknown' artist tracks ever