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Divvies, Remember that word? I can, "Divvies", well this was the derogatory name for "Jim and Barbara" and for people who "didn't know their stuff" I remember getting on a coach in Hull as a very young spotty faced lad on the way to Wigan Casino. The "Big Boys" were all sat at the back, Paul n Paddy Smith, Martin Sayner, Sean Russlin, Martin Byrd and Rocky. I sat well up front not daring to look back too much. I was with Timmy Peacham (Sadly gone now well before his time RIP) and Mark Robinson, I suppose the complete set of Hull Soul Club was on that coach? We set off from out side The New York pub at the top of Anlaby road and I was shitting my self! I have since stormed machine gun nests and enemy trenches in Iraq and Afghanistan and not been so scared!

The year was probably 1980 although it may well have been 1979? It's all a bit fuzzy now and my memory chooses to do its own thing, I can't remember the trip there much, to be honest I can't realy remember what I heard that night musically, I do remember the flavour of the conversations thought!

Back in nineteen hundred and frozen to death we had, probably the same as kids do now, buzz words that were cool to use. Half the time we didn't know what they meant but adding them into the conversation was thee thing to do. I remember using words like black bombers, ionamine, Tenuate dospan, Filon, I sounded like a fookin chemist yet I couldn't tell you the difference between Aspirin and Dexamphetamine I daren't take anything! It was cool to talk about that stuff as if you were "in". Looking back now I see how scary it all was especially as I now have sons and a daughter of that age!

I remember the biggest buzz was talking records, this was a fookin mine field as every one else seamed to have "oracle" like knowledge of the black disks and I knew fook all! I suspect that most of us were in the same boat back then, don't forget every fooker seams to be an expert now days thanks to CD sleeve notes books and the internet. I must admit to being a little pissed off when I hear a "Nuevo" expert or collector who knows more now than me! Don't they realise how many hours I have spent listening to my cassettes! I couldn't afford the bleedin records back then!

When I look back at the stuff that got me into Northern in the first place the list of tracks that inspired me and became part of me are now almost taboo, we all know and love them yet the likes of "Interplay" and "A Touch Of velvet A sting Of Brass" are now only played by the brave or the stupid.

At what point did these tracks become "Divvies" music? Was it because they were over played at The Casino? Was it because they became the anthems bleeding over to Joe "Divvies" Public and creating the stereo type baggy trousers n bowling shirts? I can understand the hatred towards a misinformed public back in the late seventies and early eighties, but why did we begin to hate the music? Was that music just a casualty of the day; was it an acceptable loss in order to protect the deeper soul? I personally believe that this loss is unacceptable!

"Divvies", are they the ones who dance to "Wigan's Ovation"? Are they? Coz I think that the real "Divvies" are the ones who "Poo Poo" the classics yet freak out to "FRANK POPP ENSEMBLE"!!!!! or the likes of fookin Carbon Copy!!!!!

I dug out some of my old "Youth Club" soul this morning and tried very hard to listen past the cringe factor and hey, Interplay is quite fookin good and A Touch Of velvet A sting Of Brass still moves me to a special place, not a special place where people lick windows, it warms me and it always did!

So how about it, are there any tracks that deserve another chance? Who would play them, what you play and who is brave enough to loose the cool n dance to them?

The cool dudes can only be realy cool if you drop the conceptions; I'm cool as fookin mustard and its you that's the "Divvies"

Love Peace and Lentils, Imber Rocks. Yours ImberBoy :-)

P.S My fave divvies track is "What" Judy Street followed by A Touch Of velvet A sting Of Brass. "Whaaa wha ... wha wha wha wha wha wha........

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Divvies, Remember that word? I can, "Divvies", well this was the derogatory name for "Jim and Barbara" and for people who "didn't know their stuff" I remember getting on a coach in Hull as a very young spotty faced lad on the way to Wigan Casino. The "Big Boys" were all sat at the back, Paul n Paddy Smith, Martin Sayner, Sean Russlin, Martin Byrd and Rocky. I sat well up front not daring to look back too much. I was with Timmy Peacham (Sadly gone now well before his time RIP) and Mark Robinson, I suppose the complete set of Hull Soul Club was on that coach? We set off from out side The New York pub at the top of Anlaby road and I was shitting my self! I have since stormed machine gun nests and enemy trenches in Iraq and Afghanistan and not been so scared!

The year was probably 1980 although it may well have been 1979? It's all a bit fuzzy now and my memory chooses to do its own thing, I can't remember the trip there much, to be honest I can't realy remember what I heard that night musically, I do remember the flavour of the conversations thought!

Back in nineteen hundred and frozen to death we had, probably the same as kids do now, buzz words that were cool to use. Half the time we didn't know what they meant but adding them into the conversation was thee thing to do. I remember using words like black bombers, ionamine, Tenuate dospan, Filon, I sounded like a fookin chemist yet I couldn't tell you the difference between Aspirin and Dexamphetamine I daren't take anything! It was cool to talk about that stuff as if you were "in". Looking back now I see how scary it all was especially as I now have sons and a daughter of that age!

I remember the biggest buzz was talking records, this was a fookin mine field as every one else seamed to have "oracle" like knowledge of the black disks and I knew fook all! I suspect that most of us were in the same boat back then, don't forget every fooker seams to be an expert now days thanks to CD sleeve notes books and the internet. I must admit to being a little pissed off when I hear a "Nuevo" expert or collector who knows more now than me! Don't they realise how many hours I have spent listening to my cassettes! I couldn't afford the bleedin records back then!

When I look back at the stuff that got me into Northern in the first place the list of tracks that inspired me and became part of me are now almost taboo, we all know and love them yet the likes of "Interplay" and "A Touch Of velvet A sting Of Brass" are now only played by the brave or the stupid.

At what point did these tracks become "Divvies" music? Was it because they were over played at The Casino? Was it because they became the anthems bleeding over to Joe "Divvies" Public and creating the stereo type baggy trousers n bowling shirts? I can understand the hatred towards a misinformed public back in the late seventies and early eighties, but why did we begin to hate the music? Was that music just a casualty of the day; was it an acceptable loss in order to protect the deeper soul? I personally believe that this loss is unacceptable!

"Divvies", are they the ones who dance to "Wigan's Ovation"? Are they? Coz I think that the real "Divvies" are the ones who "Poo Poo" the classics yet freak out to "FRANK POPP ENSEMBLE"!!!!! or the likes of fookin Carbon Copy!!!!!

I dug out some of my old "Youth Club" soul this morning and tried very hard to listen past the cringe factor and hey, Interplay is quite fookin good and A Touch Of velvet A sting Of Brass still moves me to a special place, not a special place where people lick windows, it warms me and it always did!

So how about it, are there any tracks that deserve another chance? Who would play them, what you play and who is brave enough to loose the cool n dance to them?

The cool dudes can only be realy cool if you drop the conceptions; I'm cool as fookin mustard and its you that's the "Divvies"

Love Peace and Lentils, Imber Rocks. Yours ImberBoy :-)

P.S My fave divvies track is "What" Judy Street followed by A Touch Of velvet A sting Of Brass. "Whaaa wha ... wha wha wha wha wha wha........

I could'nt give a monkeys what they think on here,even now it still gives me a shiver.....suppose I must be a divvie then :D

Bazza

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I still love "Interplay" and what-have-you, but then I'm a sucker for instrumentals. The track that always made me want to charge onto the local disco floor swinging a bicycle chain was "Uptown Festival".

I could'nt give a monkeys what they think on here,even now it still gives me a shiver.....suppose I must be a divvie then :D

Bazza

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P.S My fave divvies track is "What" Judy Street followed by A Touch Of velvet A sting Of Brass. "Whaaa wha ... wha wha wha wha wha wha........

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I think it's just that looking back some records aren't that good as Northern Soul records. I love Touch Of Velvet but don't reckon it's a soul record. In the 70s we often only listened to the beat and forgot about the soul side of it. Even in the 60s i loved the super rare Human Beinz and would dance like a maniac to it but it's not very soulful (whereas Mitch Ryder usually is). Interplay and Condition Red ain't that great but Double Cookin and the Cat Walk are.

These days Nobody But Me and Pushin Too hard would get played in the mod psych room not the Northern and Touch Of Velvet in the lounge music sofa room for you to smoke your cigar to.

So my divvy records for revival are You Get Your Kicks and Ten Miles High

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Come on Pete, what's your favourite "Divvy" track and when did you last listen to it or dance to it...... in fact we should have a "Divvies amnesty" Pete you should start us off...... :-)

I like Along Comes Mary by Baja Marimba band...can't think of many div records I've got, honestly

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I think it's just that looking back some records aren't that good as Northern Soul records. I love Touch Of Velvet but don't reckon it's a soul record.

Neither do I. The problem with that one in particular is that it was used by hundreds of mobile DJ's across the land as their theme tune - copying whoever used it on Radio Caroline.

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Ady, Ten Miles High - David and the Giants is a top track!

Once upon a time some twatt told me that Ten Miles High - David and the Giants was realy a "David Cassidy" cover up, n like a fookin "Divvy" I believed it for years.... Brillianttttttttttttttt!

P.S Have you forgiven me for The Imber? https://www.tafsc.com/Imbersoul1.htm :-)

It's a lot better photo than some of the real ones!

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I can't see you and me hitting it off Pete,I think your a bloody idiot

Bazza

Yes well this is all very nice but nothing to do with the topic, can you take your little squabbles elsewhere, thanks.

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Ady, Ten Miles High - David and the Giants is a top track!

Once upon a time some twatt told me that Ten Miles High - David and the Giants was realy a "David Cassidy" cover up, n like a fookin "Divvy" I believed it for years.... Brillianttttttttttttttt!

But Superlove really was for monumental divs.

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The Hawaii 5 0 theme (regarded as "the greatest TV theme of all time") but it don't beat "Snowy White Horses" by by Jackie Lee!

The Hawaii 5 0 theme was originally on the "Divvy" label, very rare indeed and I have two copies.

No how about Sammy Davis Jr. - You Can Count On Me (Theme from Hawaii 5-0) !! "I'm gonna be sick"

Not Northernsoul but one of the best hard corps in yer face dance off tracks ever........

On white horses let me ride away

To my world of dreams so far away

Let me run

To the sun

To a world my heart can understand

It's a warm and gentle wonder land

Far away

Stars away

Where the clouds are made of candyfloss

As the day's born

When the stars are gone

We'll race to meet the dawn

So when I can only see the grey

Of a sad and very lonely day

That's when I

Softly sigh

On white horses

Snowy white horses

Let me ride away

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Peter99 give me a list of their names and I'll slit their froats! Mickey Moonshine Name it you Got It rocks dude! :-)

Cheers Simon - most of em have already committed (musical) suicide anyway and have nothing to do with our music anymore - which probably says it all. But thanks for the offer!

It is a great record.

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Pete, just dug out Baja Marimba Band Along Comes Mary, fookin hell its brilliant!!!! It sounds as if it has sampled every fookin divvey Northernsoul track ever! Now if it had been released by Frank Popp it would be as clever as fook!

I recon its time to certainly crack Baja Marimba Band Along Comes Mary out again! I luves it!!! wheres me flares?

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i cringe a little bit at some of the music i liked then - but it's no big thing, everyone was in same boat - new, learning....and the main reason i cringe now is that i've heard a lot better since, we all have. i hope. :yes:

'i go to pieces' is still a great record for me out of the 'youth club' type stuff though - just a really good song, for me.

hey imber - the Hull Soul Club's night is this friday at the Trades and Labour on Bev rd. sould be good. i somehow managed to miss the last one (foolish non-checking of dates on my part)

see you there?

link hull soul club

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What a super post :yes: I'm sure everyone knows what my all time favourite tune is, Dobie Gray's Out On The Floor and I'm with you regarding What, I love that too! I've not stopped liking any of my favourites from when I first heard them and no matter what people say about them it wont change the way I feel :D

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I always liked Mickey Moonshine Name it you Got It - some of my mates "divved" that record - I still think it's a great toon - and not realy a div sound. Others did however so I'll post it up.

:yes:

Sounds so great played out loud...as does John E Paul "I wanna know"

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Great idea for a thread. A few years back, a car load of us from Cardiff and Bristol were heading into London - either Dome or 100 Club - one of our number was the small but perfectly formed Mod fella, Mark Thomas who only got into the music big time around 6/7 years ago. The rest of us in the car dated back to early 80s and that. As we were ploughing through the West End, I had the RCA CD comp on the player and we kept playing Peggy March, Beverley Ann and MVPs over and over and singin along - Mark was doing his nut whilst we were revelling in the pop classics of our past.

I'd love to hear Kiki Dee - Magic Carpet out at a big do. Fab memories. Do it someone, do it.

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The Hawaii 5 0 theme (regarded as "the greatest TV theme of all time") but it don't beat "Snowy White Horses" by by Jackie Lee!

The Hawaii 5 0 theme was originally on the "Divvy" label, very rare indeed and I have two copies.

No how about Sammy Davis Jr. - You Can Count On Me (Theme from Hawaii 5-0) !! "I'm gonna be sick"

Not Northernsoul but one of the best hard corps in yer face dance off tracks ever........

On white horses let me ride away

To my world of dreams so far away

Let me run

To the sun

To a world my heart can understand

It's a warm and gentle wonder land

Far away

Stars away

Where the clouds are made of candyfloss

As the day's born

When the stars are gone

We'll race to meet the dawn

So when I can only see the grey

Of a sad and very lonely day

That's when I

Softly sigh

On white horses

Snowy white horses

Let me ride away

Whit horses..A song from my youth..Soundfile please in freebasing,not on this topic...

The Div thing is just a matter of taste..One played out track is a div record and another a cool record that stands the test of time..

My Div would be.... Nine times out of ten..

My cool would be.. Time...

Don't wanna hear Time every week but it still sounds great on a big soundsystem..Don't wanna hear Queen of Fools ever again.. :yes:

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I'd love to hear Kiki Dee - Magic Carpet out at a big do. Fab memories. Do it someone, do it.

I'll chuck it up later if no-one does before I get home from work :yes:

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There's a time and place for all tunes that have been played on the scene, it's just picking the moment, when you play them. I still love all those pop tunes that have been played over the years and still play a lot of them out at the various 40th & 50th birthday bashes etc. that I DJ at, and yes the floor bounces, you can't take memories away, even if we are embarrassed now to play them on the current scene. :yes:

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this is one of the great things about this music. different records mean different things to different people, don't they? it's funny how something inside of us draws the line at certain sounds. I hated all those british things like barry benson & helen shapiro, but most certainly hit the floor to the mystic moods, maybe because it sounded weird, trippy or whatever. some of these TV theme type things, whilst devoid of soul, gave a special atmosphere to a club like the casino, and as others have said, they belong to a time and a place. sometimes it's interesting to play them to remind you of how awful they were and how a complete abdication of sound judgement & good taste hurled you onto the dancefloor. I blame the drugs of course. one I used to really loath was patrick bradley - just one more chance. that record could have me leave an all-nighter if it came on late, such was the depression it caused. pure excrement.

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this is one of the great things about this music. different records mean different things to different people, don't they? it's funny how something inside of us draws the line at certain sounds. I hated all those british things like barry benson & helen shapiro, but most certainly hit the floor to the mystic moods, maybe because it sounded weird, trippy or whatever. some of these TV theme type things, whilst devoid of soul, gave a special atmosphere to a club like the casino, and as others have said, they belong to a time and a place. sometimes it's interesting to play them to remind you of how awful they were and how a complete abdication of sound judgement & good taste hurled you onto the dancefloor. I blame the drugs of course. one I used to really loath was patrick bradley - just one more chance. that record could have me leave an all-nighter if it came on late, such was the depression it caused. pure excrement.

There I was nodding my head and agreeing with everything that you said - then you got to Patrick Bradley! I loved that tune - I think I still do! Can anyone post a clip?

Each to their own mate.

:yes:

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Ady, Ten Miles High - David and the Giants is a top track!

Once upon a time some twatt told me that Ten Miles High - David and the Giants was realy a "David Cassidy" cover up, n like a fookin "Divvy" I believed it for years.... Brillianttttttttttttttt!

P.S Have you forgiven me for The Imber? https://www.tafsc.com/Imbersoul1.htm :-)

There was that record by Silver Bullet that was supposed to be David Cassidy as well, can't remember the title now, had temptation in it. Did sound like him though.

cheers

Manus

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Neither do I. The problem with that one in particular is that it was used by hundreds of mobile DJ's across the land as their theme tune - copying whoever used it on Radio Caroline.

Pete, Mike Ahern used to play that, as did DLT later on Radio 1, "Soul coaxing" and TOVASOB were both on major minor label so guessing these were pushed by Radio Caroline director Philip Solomon who controlled the irish label Major-Minor records at that time.

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pounding beat,overlaid vocals,hook,thats what makes a good dance record for the masses

Mood Mosaic French and old club sound long before Northern has all of the above

and still played out and about in the oldies venues,of which there are a lot,

IMO a good dance record lasts

Divvy Hall

2007

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'A Touch of Velvet' was a great early soothing record. Like the name of the group it is a mood piece and a mosaic of colours. Yes, it isn't a soul record. But neither were a lot of sounds that I remember from the same period. A guess it had a lot to do with the drugs. There were just some sounds that took the edge off the undeniably rough side side of amphetamine and near amphetamine. It brought the rare smoothness of green and clears to the nasty after- burn of the likes of Filon. This is why it only has real meaning nowadays for ex speed freaks. But it's never been a divvy sound. Play it to a real divvy as part of a sequence of records popular in its day such as Slipping Around, She Blew a Good Thing and Six by Six and they say things like "This sounds like the signature tune tune for a travel show". It does. But in context, in its time it was a sound to chill out to.

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Divvies

Divvies, Remember that word? I can, "Divvies", well this was the derogatory name for "Jim and Barbara" and for people who "didn't know their stuff" I remember getting on a coach in Hull as a very young spotty faced lad on the way to Wigan Casino. The "Big Boys" were all sat at the back, Paul n Paddy Smith, Martin Sayner, Sean Russlin, Martin Byrd and Rocky. I sat well up front not daring to look back too much. I was with Timmy Peacham (Sadly gone now well before his time RIP) and Mark Robinson, I suppose the complete set of Hull Soul Club was on that coach? We set off from out side The New York pub at the top of Anlaby road and I was shitting my self! I have since stormed machine gun nests and enemy trenches in Iraq and Afghanistan and not been so scared!

The year was probably 1980 although it may well have been 1979? It's all a bit fuzzy now and my memory chooses to do its own thing, I can't remember the trip there much, to be honest I can't realy remember what I heard that night musically, I do remember the flavour of the conversations thought!

Back in nineteen hundred and frozen to death we had, probably the same as kids do now, buzz words that were cool to use. Half the time we didn't know what they meant but adding them into the conversation was thee thing to do. I remember using words like black bombers, ionamine, Tenuate dospan, Filon, I sounded like a fookin chemist yet I couldn't tell you the difference between Aspirin and Dexamphetamine I daren't take anything! It was cool to talk about that stuff as if you were "in". Looking back now I see how scary it all was especially as I now have sons and a daughter of that age!

I remember the biggest buzz was talking records, this was a fookin mine field as every one else seamed to have "oracle" like knowledge of the black disks and I knew fook all! I suspect that most of us were in the same boat back then, don't forget every fooker seams to be an expert now days thanks to CD sleeve notes books and the internet. I must admit to being a little pissed off when I hear a "Nuevo" expert or collector who knows more now than me! Don't they realise how many hours I have spent listening to my cassettes! I couldn't afford the bleedin records back then!

When I look back at the stuff that got me into Northern in the first place the list of tracks that inspired me and became part of me are now almost taboo, we all know and love them yet the likes of "Interplay" and "A Touch Of velvet A sting Of Brass" are now only played by the brave or the stupid.

At what point did these tracks become "Divvies" music? Was it because they were over played at The Casino? Was it because they became the anthems bleeding over to Joe "Divvies" Public and creating the stereo type baggy trousers n bowling shirts? I can understand the hatred towards a misinformed public back in the late seventies and early eighties, but why did we begin to hate the music? Was that music just a casualty of the day; was it an acceptable loss in order to protect the deeper soul? I personally believe that this loss is unacceptable!

"Divvies", are they the ones who dance to "Wigan's Ovation"? Are they? Coz I think that the real "Divvies" are the ones who "Poo Poo" the classics yet freak out to "FRANK POPP ENSEMBLE"!!!!! or the likes of fookin Carbon Copy!!!!!

I dug out some of my old "Youth Club" soul this morning and tried very hard to listen past the cringe factor and hey, Interplay is quite fookin good and A Touch Of velvet A sting Of Brass still moves me to a special place, not a special place where people lick windows, it warms me and it always did!

So how about it, are there any tracks that deserve another chance? Who would play them, what you play and who is brave enough to loose the cool n dance to them?

The cool dudes can only be realy cool if you drop the conceptions; I'm cool as fookin mustard and its you that's the "Divvies"

Love Peace and Lentils, Imber Rocks. Yours ImberBoy :-)

P.S My fave divvies track is "What" Judy Street followed by A Touch Of velvet A sting Of Brass. "Whaaa wha ... wha wha wha wha wha wha........

79? 80 same time as i went to the holy grail.(casino).was only 15 and about 8&half stone wet thru.

coach from Darlington with the boro gang onboard.the older girls got their eyeliner pencils and drew a bit of stubble on me, and gave me a false D.O.B to rehearse.got to the desk and the old girl asked for my D.O.B and i totally fooked it up.told me to bring my birth certificate next time.phew ,thought i was sleeping in the coach park !

can still remember walkin thru the doors ,the heat and the atmosphere was up there with the best feeling ever

big fave sound as i remember was Mitch Ryder-devil with the blue dress on,danced like a fookin maniac to that. always remember country girl -vickie baines being the supposed biggie choon at the time.dance floor was chocker when they played it ,cant believe how bad it sounds now imho

The name divvies was one i seem to remember directed at all those people who had adidas bags with soul patches on ,long leather macks,polly velts ,soul bags and never ever went to a soul do but danced to lost summer love and tainted love at the youth club!

how much its changed eh

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"Interplay"

See you always where and still are a div?You should remember the better side was the B side "Dragnet 67" as play by Richard Sealing..............see you were too busy gobbing off & trying to dance to listen when we were trying to teach you something.

Cheers

One Of The Big Boys Off The Back Seat

PS You better be at Trades & Labour on Friday or I'll be round to put your windows in!

Te Hee Te Hee

www.hullsoulclub.com

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Ady, Ten Miles High - David and the Giants is a top track!

Once upon a time some twatt told me that Ten Miles High - David and the Giants was realy a "David Cassidy" cover up, n like a fookin "Divvy" I believed it for years.... Brillianttttttttttttttt!

P.S Have you forgiven me for The Imber? https://www.tafsc.com/Imbersoul1.htm :-)

10 MILES HIGH THAT WAS THE RECORD I HAD ON MY WEDDING DAY WALKING DOWN THE ISLE. BILLY

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Nice to see a scene luminary such as Ady Croasdell not caring if he is called a Divvie & still admitting that these records still have a place. It's always bugged me that just because a tune is popular it has to be condemed !

Love Mitch Ryder myself too, such energy & feeling in his songs !

He has his own website here https://mitchryder.de/index1.php I notice that he still performs, how about someone booking him for one of the weekenders ? They reckon he is a great showman on stage.

One of my favourites of his is the version of 'Come see about me' great thumping Northern ! , word of warning though, there does appear to be two versions ? the one on the Soul Club jukebox is different & not as good as the single for some reason, album track ?

On to 'Touch of velvet' I couldn't care what anyone calls me this will always have a prized place in my collection !!

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this is one of the great things about this music. different records mean different things to different people, don't they? it's funny how something inside of us draws the line at certain sounds. I hated all those british things like barry benson & helen shapiro, but most certainly hit the floor to the mystic moods, maybe because it sounded weird, trippy or whatever. some of these TV theme type things, whilst devoid of soul, gave a special atmosphere to a club like the casino, and as others have said, they belong to a time and a place. sometimes it's interesting to play them to remind you of how awful they were and how a complete abdication of sound judgement & good taste hurled you onto the dancefloor. I blame the drugs of course. one I used to really loath was patrick bradley - just one more chance. that record could have me leave an all-nighter if it came on late, such was the depression it caused. pure excrement.

I know ectactly what your saying about patrick bradley bad nite on the gear, hear that it used to leave me in the bottom of the pit mellow.gif

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