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I really like some of the slightly more funky 7ts/8ts tunes that are coming thru these days Ellipsis/Ice/Mixed Emotions etc etc. I dont like straight up funk its not really my bag.........but if it has a good soul vocal & its not too syncopated then Im all for it. Got me to thinking that over the years there have been some fantastic 7ts tunes played on the scene, but other than the really obvious, we dont seem to talk about these as much as the 6ts tunes.

I was listening to Jobell and the Orchestra De Salsa - Never Gonna Let You Go - Jan & I think that it really stands up to todays more recent 7ts/8ts discoveries, what do you think ??????? What are your favourite forgotten 7ts/8ts dancers...........no crossover kids, staight up dancers.

BTW I cant do sound files so would appreciate it if any one could add a sound file of the Jobell for me, thank you.

Russ

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The late Dave Godin's visit to Blackpool Mecca, from Blues & Soul No.67, September 1971

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Before my time, but at least I got to read about it!

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The late Dave Godin's visit to Blackpool Mecca, from Blues & Soul No.67, September 1971

Before my time, but at least I got to read about it!

Nice one mate.

:rolleyes:

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Deniece Chandler (Later to become better known as Deniece Williams!) "Mama, I Wish I'd Stayed At Home" (LOCK), first heard alongside Bobby Hutton and World Column in mid-1975.

One of my all time fave records , saw a red issue on Sat. which I'd never seen before , what a fantastic story line dancer !! Best ,Eddie

I Can' t Stop Loving You - the love affair - united artists

16078 refosoul

Fantastic floater; fabulous vocals - class with a capital K!

Great record , flip side is ace too .Best ,Eddie

Two that do it for me,

HEY LOVE - SAM WAYNON

RAY PETTIS - TOGETHER FOREVER

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Deniece Chandler "Mama, I Wish I'd Stayed At Home" (LOCK)... saw a red issue on Sat. which I'd never seen before...

Tch! I always thought the demos were RARER! (or at least harder to find!) :rolleyes:

Had a demo from Soul Bowl (them again!) and got Deniece Williams to autograph it when she appeared at Birmingham Odeon in 1977. She was staggered to see it. Think I'd actually seen her on stage before now I think about it, as I believe she used to be part of Wonderlove, Stevie Wonder's backing singers, and I'd seen him at the Odeon also! (in 1972) I sold my issue copy of "Mama.." C.1989, but had the foresight to buy one back cheap a few years later. (I really hate selling my Mecca tunes!)

talkin ' ' bout poor folks , thinkin' ' bout my folks - lou edwards and todays people - columbia

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Here's a Mecca fave from Lou Edwards and Todays People .First read about this side in B& S in Dave Godin's column , interviewing Colin Curtis , he selected some of his current plays including this and The M.VP's .First actually heard it at Wigan via Colin , deputising for an on holiday Richard Searling .Used to have an issue of it but sold it to Searling one night at Wigan - wonder if he's still got it ? Best ,Eddie

(For the benefit of younger readers!) The Lou Edwards record had TWO bites of the cherry, so to speak, as Levine had initially played it a couple of years earlier, on the "traditional" Northern circuit, however it didn't really go. He then revived it in 1975 where it fitted the newer playlists perfectly! A similar situation happened with Major Harris "Call Me Tomorrow". I guess timing is everything on the Northern scene!

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Further to instrumental and semi-instrumental Mecca sides;

Third Time Around "Soon Everything Will Be Alright" (DENINE)

One of the best ever too! Somewhat overshadowed by the discovery of Warran Schatz's rarer version later on, but I still like this version myself. Another of many sides with fond personal memories attached.

Ron Butler & The Ramblers - "Peace And Love (vocal/inst.)" (PLAYBOY)

Massive all over as a new release, then virtually forgotten.

Destiny - "So Much Love (inst.)" (RCA)

re-working of the Faith Hope & Charity side. Played early in 1975

Magic Disco Machine "Control Tower" (MOTOWN)

"Scratchin" is the favoured side just now, apparently.

Boogie Man Orchestra "Lady lady Lady" (BOOGIE MAN RECORDS)

Ahh! This still makes the hairs stand up on the back of my neck, even now!

Hank Jacobs "Elijah Rockin' With Soul" (CALL ME)

Huge back in the day, has found a brand new audience in recent years.

Chuck Jones "Boo On You" (WAND)

Unlikely to be revived in any form I shouldn't think, though someone may be sampling it even as we speak!

R.B. Freeman "I'm Shaft (You Ain't Shaft)" (AVCO)

Possibly the most curious recording of Bobby Freeman's career! (for it is he) Lyric side is amusing though.

Juggy Jones "Inside America" (JUPITER)

Oh well - 1976 WAS the American Bi-Centennial after all...

Jack Ashford & The Sound Of New Detroit - "Do The Choo Choo" (BLAZE)

Jack's back - and Eddie Parker had a brand new one out too! (Eddie also recorded a vocal to this by the way)

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Further to instrumental and semi-instrumental Mecca sides;

Third Time Around "Soon Everything Will Be Alright" (DENINE)

One of the best ever too! Somewhat overshadowed by the discovery of Warran Schatz's rarer version later on, but I still like this version myself. Another of many sides with fond personal memories attached.

Ron Butler & The Ramblers - "Peace And Love (vocal/inst.)" (PLAYBOY)

Massive all over as a new release, then virtually forgotten.

Destiny - "So Much Love (inst.)" (RCA)

re-working of the Faith Hope & Charity side. Played early in 1975

Magic Disco Machine "Control Tower" (MOTOWN)

"Scratchin" is the favoured side just now, apparently.

Boogie Man Orchestra "Lady lady Lady" (BOOGIE MAN RECORDS)

Ahh! This still makes the hairs stand up on the back of my neck, even now!

Hank Jacobs "Elijah Rockin' With Soul" (CALL ME)

Huge back in the day, has found a brand new audience in recent years.

Chuck Jones "Boo On You" (WAND)

Unlikely to be revived in any form I shouldn't think, though someone may be sampling it even as we speak!

R.B. Freeman "I'm Shaft (You Ain't Shaft)" (AVCO)

Possibly the most curious recording of Bobby Freeman's career! (for it is he) Lyric side is amusing though.

Juggy Jones "Inside America" (JUPITER)

Oh well - 1976 WAS the American Bi-Centennial after all...

Jack Ashford & The Sound Of New Detroit - "Do The Choo Choo" (BLAZE)

Jack's back - and Eddie Parker had a brand new one out too! (Eddie also recorded a vocal to this by the way)

Great stuff Mel & everyone else too......................thanks for the postings & clips, keep em coming. Sean H thought you would have a posting frenzy on this thread ?.

Russ

Further to instrumental and semi-instrumental Mecca sides;

Third Time Around "Soon Everything Will Be Alright" (DENINE)

One of the best ever too! Somewhat overshadowed by the discovery of Warran Schatz's rarer version later on, but I still like this version myself. Another of many sides with fond personal memories attached.

Ron Butler & The Ramblers - "Peace And Love (vocal/inst.)" (PLAYBOY)

Massive all over as a new release, then virtually forgotten.

Destiny - "So Much Love (inst.)" (RCA)

re-working of the Faith Hope & Charity side. Played early in 1975

Magic Disco Machine "Control Tower" (MOTOWN)

"Scratchin" is the favoured side just now, apparently.

Boogie Man Orchestra "Lady lady Lady" (BOOGIE MAN RECORDS)

Ahh! This still makes the hairs stand up on the back of my neck, even now!

Hank Jacobs "Elijah Rockin' With Soul" (CALL ME)

Huge back in the day, has found a brand new audience in recent years.

Chuck Jones "Boo On You" (WAND)

Unlikely to be revived in any form I shouldn't think, though someone may be sampling it even as we speak!

R.B. Freeman "I'm Shaft (You Ain't Shaft)" (AVCO)

Possibly the most curious recording of Bobby Freeman's career! (for it is he) Lyric side is amusing though.

Juggy Jones "Inside America" (JUPITER)

Oh well - 1976 WAS the American Bi-Centennial after all...

Jack Ashford & The Sound Of New Detroit - "Do The Choo Choo" (BLAZE)

Jack's back - and Eddie Parker had a brand new one out too! (Eddie also recorded a vocal to this by the way)

I've always loved 'Control Tower'...time for a revival I reckon !

I really like to hear Destiny 'So Much Love'...soundclip anyone?

Magic Disco Machine "Control Tower" (MOTOWN)

"Scratchin" is the favoured side just now, apparently.

I have this on an Italian Tamla Motown 45 which has got "(I Could Never Make) A Better Man Than You" on the flipside instead which seems to otherwise be LP-only. Basically it's the backing track to the Sisters Love tune with the same name which can be found on the flipside to "Give Me Your Love" on MOWEST. An absolute stormer! :)

I have this on an Italian Tamla Motown 45 which has got "(I Could Never Make) A Better Man Than You" on the flipside instead which seems to otherwise be LP-only. Basically it's the backing track to the Sisters Love tune with the same name which can be found on the flipside to "Give Me Your Love" on MOWEST. An absolute stormer! :shades:

Does anyone rate the flip to "Learning To Trust My Man" (UK MOWEST/TAMLA MOTOWN only) as I do? Now I normally love Willie Hutch, but his own recording of "Try It, You'll Like It" (on "The Mark Of The Beast" LP) pales compared to The Sisters' sassy and righteous version in my opinion.

I once saw them live, when they were supporting the Jackson 5 in 1972 and it was more like a gospel meeting, with the lead singer, Vermettya Royster presumably, sliding across the stage on her knees at one point! Sadly, this all completely bemused the largely teenybopper audience, many of whom didn't look old enough to be out on their own and frequently punctuated the proceedings with plaintive cries of "Mi-ch-ael!" :thumbsup:

(The Jackson 5 put on an equally brilliant and energetic performance though, as you might expect)

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The Sisters Love are cruelly underrated. So many great records.

Probably the antithesis of a girl group in the same way The Dells or Masqueraders could never be charactersied as a "boy band".

Does anyone rate the flip to "Learning To Trust My Man" (UK MOWEST/TAMLA MOTOWN only) as I do? Now I normally love Willie Hutch, but his own recording of "Try It, You'll Like It" (on "The Mark Of The Beast" LP) pales compared to The Sisters' sassy and righteous version in my opinion.

Yes, I think "Try It, You'll Like It" is great! :thumbsup: Actually, I like almost all of The Sisters Love recordings and the recent compilation with their stuff on the UK label SoulJazz is an essential purchase if one doesn't want to chase down all the 45s.

I'm also very partial to "You've Got To Make The Choice", the flip to "Mr. Fix-It Man" on MOWEST. :shades:

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Hiya Russ,

Was gonna put up soundfile of Jobell up for you but it's already been done. The track has certainly 'got it'. Dolly has a copy and it's one of those sounds that 'infects' you - In fact, it's now stuck on repeat in my brain...AAARRRRGHHHH - Turn it off!!!!

Here's one for ya - will post a soundfile later when I get home.

Ronnie 'Loveman' Stokes - "Touch You Again" - Philly City

Murderous pace for the dance floor at my age but hell of a tune!!

ATB, Neil Jones :unsure:

Gotchaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(biggrin.gif:P .

Tis mine !.

Russ

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Have it your way - circle o fire - stax

16389 refosoul

Thought I'd add this winner as I've not had it long but it's never off the decks at the moment. :thumbsup:

Really enjoyed the topic, some great tracks that are new to me, my bank balance is falling like a stone as i write!

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Have it your way - circle o fire - stax

16389 refosoul

Thought I'd add this winner as I've not had it long but it's never off the decks at the moment

Nice groove mate

What about:

7th Wonder-Captain of My Ship

High Voltage-Country Road

Night of the Wolf

Russ

I'll probably get strung up for saying this but I much prefer 7th Wonder 'Captain of My Ship' to Florecent Smog................'Night Of The Wolf' in my book has allways been a great record

Have it your way - circle o fire - stax

16389 refosoul

Thought I'd add this winner as I've not had it long but it's never off the decks at the moment. :hypo:

Really enjoyed the topic, some great tracks that are new to me, my bank balance is falling like a stone as i write!

Yes that's a nice track alright. The lead singer's voice sounds really familiar though. Is it anyone we know from elsewhere?

While we're on the subject of latter-day Stax recordings, I hereby nominate two of my absolute faves; :lol:

Soul Children "Can't Give Up A Good Thing" (1978) - fabulous in every way!

Shirley Brown "Crowding In On My Mind" (1979) - ditto

(P.S. You're lucky to even HAVE a bank balance!) :lol:

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Casonova - coffee - de-lite

16408 refosoul Refosoul Rare and Northern Soul Clip library

Not 70s but early 80s but i thought i would add it to keep the thread alive,i remember this getting played heavily at the casino 80ish and getting into the charts? anyone got any more info? what year and who played it at the casino etc.

Ha Ha! I'd entirely forgotten about this! Nice to hear it again though.

Casonova - coffee - de-lite

16408 refosoul Refosoul Rare and Northern Soul Clip library

Not 70s but early 80s but i thought i would add it to keep the thread alive,i remember this getting played heavily at the casino 80ish and getting into the charts? anyone got any more info? what year and who played it at the casino etc.

Soul Sam played this a few times at Wigan

played Lee Fields' "Take me back" in the DDA room @ Lowton last Friday and 2 people asked me what it was. Angle 3 is the label and it's rather wonderful in my mind.

onwards, derek

Great tune!! Have this on one of those emidiscs, very rough though!!...anyone have an original for sale?

Yes that's a nice track alright. The lead singer's voice sounds really familiar though. Is it anyone we know from elsewhere?

While we're on the subject of latter-day Stax recordings, I hereby nominate two of my absolute faves; :hypo:

Soul Children "Can't Give Up A Good Thing" (1978) - fabulous in every way!

Shirley Brown "Crowding In On My Mind" (1979) - ditto

(P.S. You're lucky to even HAVE a bank balance!) :lol:

Shirley Brown is an excellent track which I've put a few people onto lately, I'd also like to add these two album tracks, both on the purple/white Stax imprint.

Soul Children "Who You Used To Be" Heard this out a few times

Staples Singers "Trippin On Your Love" went massive in the early 90's down south, did it have the same impact elsewhere?

Shirley Brown is an excellent track which I've put a few people onto lately, I'd also like to add these two album tracks, both on the purple/white Stax imprint.

Soul Children "Who You Used To Be" Heard this out a few times

Staples Singers "Trippin On Your Love" went massive in the early 90's down south, did it have the same impact elsewhere?

Staple Singers was pretty big everywhere, I think. Big Southport weekender record.

Talking of Shirley Brown don't think you can do better than "Yes sir brother" the other side of "Woman to woman". Great uptempo record and as cheap as they come.

Regards Alan

Staple Singers was pretty big everywhere, I think. Big Southport weekender record.

Talking of Shirley Brown don't think you can do better than "Yes sir brother" the other side of "Woman to woman". Great uptempo record and as cheap as they come.

Regards Alan

Now there's a coincidence. I was tidying up some records today (happens every six months or so!) when I came across this and gave it a spin. I was going to give it a mention it on here! It always sounds great, and I'm disappointed it was never given proper credit as a worthy side.

Meanwhile how about some late 70s Motown?

Kenny Lupper "Passion Flower" (TAMLA)

Warning. This record has been virtually ignored by lots of people who really should know better. A criminal oversight in my view, as it's utterly and completely fan-tas-tic! Everything I like in a late-seventies Soul record - which is probably why I've never heard it played anywhere or seen it given so much as a passing nod of approval. "Not rare enough" eh? SHAME ON YOU!

FLAVOR "Don't Freeze Up" (BUNKY) but Motown picked it up..!

Truly fabulous and entertaining side with a bouncy, sixties style rhythm ala. Prince Phillip Mitchell etc. and a superb sax break too, which is unusual in a seventies side. What we used to call a "floater"

Not so ignored though (it got a UK release), but almost forgotten? note to DJs - This really does sound great played loud. Why not try it and see?!

PLATINUM HOOK "Gotta Find A Woman" (MOTOWN UK)

What can I say? Lively and original with a great melody and vocal harmonies. It reminds me a little of some of the Four Tops early ABC/PROBE album tracks (which sound more relevant and contemporary as the years pass!) I'm sure the musical arrangement alone is worth a dozen times the asking price. I dare you to try and stop humming it after hearing it just once!

If I were to hear any of these played out today I'd be on the dancefloor so fast I'd leave scorchmarks on the carpet! (Though I suspect I'd have the floor largely to myself. No problem!)

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