Steve Plumb Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Ey up folks Just got a record on the 'red' Apache label (same one as James Phelps and just a couple of numbers away from it!) by The Ripples - Cowgirls to boys/Only time will tell Two very nice sweet/group soul songs (particularly the B side). The top side is the Gamble/Huff song with the title altered cos it's a femme group! I guess it must be about '69/'70? Not found much info about the group and don't think i've ever seen the 45 before? Has anyone any more info they can add? btw I haven't recorded or scanned it yet so i can't post a clip up at this moment! PLMK Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Ey up folks Just got a record on the 'red' Apache label (same one as James Phelps and just a couple of numbers away from it!) by The Ripples - Cowgirls to boys/Only time will tell Two very nice sweet/group soul songs (particularly the B side). The top side is the Gamble/Huff song with the title altered cos it's a femme group! I guess it must be about '69/'70? Not found much info about the group and don't think i've ever seen the 45 before? Has anyone any more info they can add? btw I haven't recorded or scanned it yet so i can't post a clip up at this moment! PLMK Steve this turns up in Chicago, I think it got a little radio play Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Reforee Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Its at least from 1971 as it follows the Loletta Holloway release "Raindow '71" (#2004) and the James Phelps (#2007). nothing known on the group though, another single/debut release only to sink without trace??????? Defo the later Apache label design out of Chicago rather than the other 2 earlier Apache labels out of Florida and Brooklyn NY THE MAN IN BLACK Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Reforee Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Steve Have not the time to check on group LINKS but try the following Ripples on Bond label Ripple on GRC and salsoul (i think0 and more nearer might be Ripples on Steeltown but not 100% but there might be a link with one or all as its an odd group title. THE MAN IN BLACK Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Steve Have not the time to check on group LINKS but try the following Ripples on Bond label Ripple on GRC and salsoul (i think0 and more nearer might be Ripples on Steeltown but not 100% but there might be a link with one or all as its an odd group title. THE MAN IN BLACK The group has NO connection to the Ripples and Waves on steeltown, which was a Gary band consisting of a bunch of guys (but who were NOT the Jackson 5). Obviously no connection to the ripples on salsoul, which were also a bunch of guys. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Its at least from 1971 as it follows the Loletta Holloway release "Raindow '71" (#2004) and the James Phelps (#2007). nothing known on the group though, another single/debut release only to sink without trace??????? Defo the later Apache label design out of Chicago rather than the other 2 earlier Apache labels out of Florida and Brooklyn NY THE MAN IN BLACK It doesn't follow the James Phelps either, as it has an earlier number. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Reforee Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 The Ripples is 2005 i think so following the LH realease it has to be 1971 at the earliest surely? and 2 in front of the JP release which isnnt that later for date i would imagine. Just trying to help Steve out with a date???? THE MAN IN BLACK Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 The Ripples is 2005 i think so following the LH realease it has to be 1971 at the earliest surely? and 2 in front of the JP release which isnnt that later for date i would imagine. Just trying to help Steve out with a date???? THE MAN IN BLACK I agree with you on what you are saying about the date. It just sounded like you were saying it came out after the James Phelps and I was pointing out it had an earlier release number. Thanks. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 (edited) The killer side is "Only Time Will Tell" mixed group with girl lead, then male vocal answering 1/2 way through. Wrote by K. Wright & C. Turner. Produced by Floyd Smith, Richard Tufo, and a "Chapman" (not Sean) One of the finest soul records I've heard in quite some time.. Love it to bits. I'll put it up on R-O-T-R later in the week SCAN & sound clip and add the link on here. Phone # on the label is 312 331 7700 ... you never know. Edited November 6, 2007 by john manship Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 link to scan and sound clip of the Ripples on Apache 2005 https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/rarest-of-the-rare/58 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Plumb Posted November 6, 2007 Author Share Posted November 6, 2007 link to scan and sound clip of the Ripples on Apache 2005 https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/rarest-of-the-rare/58 Nice one John - saved me a job! btw How often have you ever come across it on yer travels? Cheers Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Nice one John - saved me a job! btw How often have you ever come across it on yer travels? Cheers Steve My first copy ever, but I don't get out much these days though..walk the dogs, drink wine, watch Match of the Day, fall asleep..not a good life style for record finding. It's very rare over here in old blighty, but Chicago Bob tells me he's had a copy or two. But he's just as honest, to say he's never found a James Phelps. Just goes to show how those "Brit vinyl hoovers" just picked up all the dance soul 45s, years ago. I think this may have been passed over 'cause it's slow. But hey, what a tune! Does anyone else like it as much as me? Does Steve G. have a copy? ....I think this is right up his street. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 My first copy ever, but I don't get out much these days though..walk the dogs, drink wine, watch Match of the Day, fall asleep..not a good life style for record finding. It's very rare over here in old blighty, but Chicago Bob tells me he's had a copy or two. But he's just as honest, to say he's never found a James Phelps. Just goes to show how those "Brit vinyl hoovers" just picked up all the dance soul 45s, years ago. I think this may have been passed over 'cause it's slow. But hey, what a tune! Does anyone else like it as much as me? Does Steve G. have a copy? ....I think this is right up his street. I've seen this on a WHITE LABEL once. THAT is rare. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Ey up folks Just got a record on the 'red' Apache label (same one as James Phelps and just a couple of numbers away from it!) by The Ripples - Cowgirls to boys/Only time will tell Two very nice sweet/group soul songs (particularly the B side). The top side is the Gamble/Huff song with the title altered cos it's a femme group! I guess it must be about '69/'70? Not found much info about the group and don't think i've ever seen the 45 before? Has anyone any more info they can add? btw I haven't recorded or scanned it yet so i can't post a clip up at this moment! PLMK Steve Nice sweet soul Stevie! I have one. Steve G Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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