Ok i know this thread has been on before but i just have to get this off my chest. Last night i travelled to a northern soul venue ( No name mentioned ) to listen and enjoy a night of good music and i was not let down. However i have been collecting vinyl now for about 20 years and have a decent collection of originals of which i have spent a small fortune on and seached and haggled for that elusive single to put in my box. So when a Dj gets up and starts playing great originals be it £20 or £2000 i know he has worked hard to build a collection and reputation to stand proudly behind the decks.

What a HATE however is a person who strolls up and is allowed to play an hour of bootlegs and re issues of rare records without the other Djs batting an eyelid and stepping off the decks to a round of applause. The set SHE played was fine except for the absence of 90%originals. Maybe im being a little biast but if i had been going on next i would have been cheesed off Knowing a £1000 original i was going to play had been played on a £5 bootleg previously.

I realise that the average northern soul punter doesn't care what format the record is as long as they can dance, but surely the event organisers sould stop this to keep some credability to there soul event. Needless to say we left before the end.

LOVE THE MUSIC ~ HATE ~ THE F**K*N SCENE

If a collection is that good then you can still 'play what folks want' without resorting to a spot comprising mainly boots.

Brian

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I've read all through this thread and haven't seen this girl's playlist anywhere, so how do you or anyone else know she was playing 'mainly boots'?

Winnie:-)

There are a fair few originals could do with being left at home!

M.

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i stand by my comments

Good to know that the future for Soul Source is in good hands.

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I've read all through this thread and haven't seen this girl's playlist anywhere, so how do you or anyone else know she was playing 'mainly boots'?

Winnie:-)

nice one winnie

if you want original stick to the big nighters where they can afford big names

This is something I've never understood - it's implied that the big venues properly pay DJs, so they can afford these "big" records. As far as I'm aware, a DJ fee for an hour slot will rarely be over £100 - which isn't going to get you too far when it comes to the "big tunes".

Most DJs who have the best collections simply have quite a lot of money to begin with. Obviously some were picking records up for buttons in the 80s, but c'mon - Ginger paying 2 or 3 grand or whatever for that Parliaments 45. If I was a DJ starting off, I'd quite happily mix legal re-issues with originals.

All the Lou Pride stuff was recently issued, with money going directly to the artist - what on earth would be the point in shelling out a grand for an original? REALLY? To show that I somehow have more of a "right" to play it than another DJ with more spare cash?

If it's been re-issued - move along, find the next big thing.

[PS Why does everyone moan that no venues have CD players? You can buy a portable discman for a tenner - LESS THAN IT COSTS FOR ONE VINYLCARVER - why not play "original" CDs?]

Good to know that the future for Soul Source is in good hands.

love you to mate

There are a fair few originals could do with being left at home!

M.

Records or Soulies?

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I've read all through this thread and haven't seen this girl's playlist anywhere, so how do you or anyone else know she was playing 'mainly boots'?

Winnie:-)

But Winnie, did a witch have to be a witch ????

Think i've got the answer, tie her to her collection (+ a few rocks) then throw her in the local pond !

If she floats they were boots ! If she drowns they were originals ! & we can all go back to dissing Modern

This is something I've never understood - it's implied that the big venues properly pay DJs, so they can afford these "big" records. As far as I'm aware, a DJ fee for an hour slot will rarely be over £100 - which isn't going to get you too far when it comes to the "big tunes".

Most DJs who have the best collections simply have quite a lot of money to begin with. Obviously some were picking records up for buttons in the 80s, but c'mon - Ginger paying 2 or 3 grand or whatever for that Parliaments 45. If I was a DJ starting off, I'd quite happily mix legal re-issues with originals.

All the Lou Pride stuff was recently issued, with money going directly to the artist - what on earth would be the point in shelling out a grand for an original? REALLY? To show that I somehow have more of a "right" to play it than another DJ with more spare cash?

If it's been re-issued - move along, find the next big thing.

[PS Why does everyone moan that no venues have CD players? You can buy a portable discman for a tenner - LESS THAN IT COSTS FOR ONE VINYLCARVER - why not play "original" CDs?]

Great post

But Winnie, did a witch have to be a witch ????

Think i've got the answer, tie her to her collection (+ a few rocks) then throw her in the local pond !

If she floats they were boots ! If she drowns they were originals ! & we can all go back to dissing Modern

This is something I've never understood - it's implied that the big venues properly pay DJs, so they can afford these "big" records. As far as I'm aware, a DJ fee for an hour slot will rarely be over £100 - which isn't going to get you too far when it comes to the "big tunes".

Most DJs who have the best collections simply have quite a lot of money to begin with. Obviously some were picking records up for buttons in the 80s, but c'mon - Ginger paying 2 or 3 grand or whatever for that Parliaments 45. If I was a DJ starting off, I'd quite happily mix legal re-issues with originals.

All the Lou Pride stuff was recently issued, with money going directly to the artist - what on earth would be the point in shelling out a grand for an original? REALLY? To show that I somehow have more of a "right" to play it than another DJ with more spare cash?

If it's been re-issued - move along, find the next big thing.

[PS Why does everyone moan that no venues have CD players? You can buy a portable discman for a tenner - LESS THAN IT COSTS FOR ONE VINYLCARVER - why not play "original" CDs?]

valid point mate but i know for a fact winstanley was down our way not long back n got 200quid for a crap hour spot n ginger got more money than sense

Records or Soulies?

To avoid the risk of upsetting people I have left a blank space below

B_TH!

M.

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I've read all through this thread and haven't seen this girl's playlist anywhere, so how do you or anyone else know she was playing 'mainly boots'?

Winnie:-)

I don't know whether she was playing mainly boots (if you've read my previous posts you will see that I asked the OP to list the records he thought were boots so we could get some context for this debate).

All my subsequent comments have been of a general, non-specific nature in the debate about OVO or boots (or whatever) at soul nights.

At no point have I made any direct comment about the specific soul night or the DJ in question as I have no direct knowledge of either.

I was just trying to contribute rationally to an interesting and lively discussion.

Brian

Think you have misread that Jellybean ! Twas an ironic joke ! Have you not read my other posts ? I'm on your feckin' side !!!!

Edited January 14, 200817 yr by Bogue

I was just trying to contribute rationally to an interesting and lively discussion.

Brian

I think you did, if thats any use!

Think you have misread that Jellybean ! Twas an ironic joke ! Have you not read my other posts ? I'm on your feckin' side !!!!

oooooops

Think you have misread that Jellybean ! Twas a joke ! Have you not read my other posts ? I'm on your feckin' side !!!!

Sorry Bogues I cannot stop laughing mate

Keep it up Eddy

Think you have misread that Jellybean ! Twas an ironic joke ! Have you not read my other posts ? I'm on your feckin' side !!!!

OH SORRY SWEETIE!!!! JB XXXX

I think you did, if thats any use!

Thanks Pete, feeling a bit like Custer's last stance at times .

Brian

The innocent are guilty unless proved otherwise!

oooooops

Sorry Bogues I cannot stop laughing mate

Keep it up Eddy

Made me think of the stoneing scene in 'Life Of Brian' where the bloke reading out the charge ends up getting it too

THE,S JUST NO NEED FOR ALL THIS B**L**KS.......ENOUGH,S BEEN SAID ON THIS SUBJECT!!!

So here's how I see the thread ending.

Your nameless mate joins Soul Source & puts up a post saying they were all requests & she was playing to the dancefloor.

Probably uses a name like Sorry Soulie Girlie & uses a crying smiley (closest I could find).

The Soul Police (whoever they are) decide the only suitable punishment is to tar & feather her but as it's a first offence they take pity & suspend the sentence.

Sorry Soulie Girlie say's she's been a very naughty girl & won't do it again & everybody takes pity on her & takes her under their wings.

Everything turns out great for Sorry Soulie Girlie & she gets loads of bookings & even goes on to win the dance contest at the next Blackpool weekender (ah bless).

Everything on Soul Source returns to normal & we all live happily ever after.

End of part one................

Made me think of the stoneing scene in 'Life Of Brian' where the bloke reading out the charge ends up getting it too

WITH YA NOW!!! .....JB XXXXX

I used to do that - post something and press REPLY because it winds you up - but nowadays I post something but then wait 30 seconds before hitting reply, and no surprise to find I have about 50% less arguments than I used to

I love original records as much as the next person , but I wonder if we have lost the plot a bit , I wonder if the lady in question played a good spot , created a good atmosphere , and everyone had a good night ? Best ,Eddie

I love original records as much as the next person , but I wonder if we have lost the plot a bit , I wonder if the lady in question played a good spot , created a good atmosphere , and everyone had a good night ? Best ,Eddie

Bloody hell

now you"ve thrown a spanner in the works

I love original records as much as the next person , but I wonder if we have lost the plot a bit , I wonder if the lady in question played a good spot , created a good atmosphere , and everyone had a good night ? Best ,Eddie

HAVE IT ON GOOD AUTHORITY THAT SHE PLAYED A ~ CRACKING SET ~ AND GOT THE DANCEFLOOR HEAVING MISSED A GOOD UN AYE!!?? .....JB XXXX

I love original records as much as the next person , but I wonder if we have lost the plot a bit , I wonder if the lady in question played a good spot , created a good atmosphere , and everyone had a good night ? Best ,Eddie

well mate i have seen her and she is good at getting them up n dancing

I don't know whether she was playing mainly boots (if you've read my previous posts you will see that I asked the OP to list the records he thought were boots so we could get some context for this debate).

All my subsequent comments have been of a general, non-specific nature in the debate about OVO or boots (or whatever) at soul nights.

At no point have I made any direct comment about the specific soul night or the DJ in question as I have no direct knowledge of either.

I was just trying to contribute rationally to an interesting and lively discussion.

Brian

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Perfectly rational Brian, having fianally waded through the thread, just asked who actually knew what she'd played at the last relevant post I got to.

Personally I think she's taken a hammering on here without anyone having any proper evidence, but then again a lot of people have been able to validate their OVO policy publically

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Perfectly rational Brian, having fianally waded through the thread, just asked who actually knew what she'd played at the last relevant post I got to.

Personally I think she's taken a hammering on here without anyone having any proper evidence, but then again a lot of people have been able to validate their OVO policy publically

GOOD POINT .....JB XXX

Edited January 14, 200817 yr by JELLYBEAN

So here's how I see the thread ending.

Your nameless mate joins Soul Source & puts up a post saying they were all requests & she was playing to the dancefloor.

Probably uses a name like Sorry Soulie Girlie & uses a crying smiley (closest I could find).

The Soul Police (whoever they are) decide the only suitable punishment is to tar & feather her but as it's a first offence they take pity & suspend the sentence.

Sorry Soulie Girlie say's she's been a very naughty girl & won't do it again & everybody takes pity on her & takes her under their wings.

Everything turns out great for Sorry Soulie Girlie & she gets loads of bookings & even goes on to win the dance contest at the next Blackpool weekender (ah bless).

Everything on Soul Source returns to normal & we all live happily ever after.

End of part one................

dont think so mate probly give you a slap more like

I think its really sad that people have to resort to playing counterfeit music to get and give a buzz, I'm sure there is an analogy out there somewhere however at the moment I can't be arsed to even think of one let alone two.

I wish those that play boots, start their sessions with a "I'll be playing illegal copies tonight because I'm a top notch jock not a "Ive got more money than sense collector"

"No compromise. no surrender, keep counterfeit record in your box at 'ome"

Bloody hell

now you"ve thrown a spanner in the works

Sorry Moggy !! I just think that one of the main reasons for being into this music is the enjoyment factor , otherwise we might just as well stay at home. Best ,Eddie

dont think so mate probly give you a slap more like

Probably will if & when I post up part 2

Was only joking anyway,

She didn't win the dance contest - she came 2nd to the Billy Elliot wanabee

Edited January 14, 200817 yr by CUNNIE

Great post

cant play cd r on discman

just saying

Probably will if & when I post up part 2

Was only joking anyway,

She didn't win the dance contest - she came 2nd to the Billy Elliot wanabee

pmsl the black thong strikes again

Edited January 14, 200817 yr by eddyg

ORIGINALS ONLY i would have thought or super exclusive reedits..!!

How has this thread affected the said accused personally if she knows about it which i kind of think she would by now, ffs she played some boots and no i dont agree but all this shit she is now copping for fook sake has anyone been injured or killed

give her my regards and tell her to do what she wants and fook em all, why aint the promoter been hammered as i personally feel the blame should lay there and there only,

why dont promoters put on their advertising that BOOTS could well be played at this venue so if you dont agree then fook off somewhere else

Bearsy

How has this thread affected the said accused personally if she knows about it which i kind of think she would by now, ffs she played some boots and no i dont agree but all this shit she is now copping for fook sake has anyone been injured or killed

give her my regards and tell her to do what she wants and fook em all, why aint the promoter been hammered as i personally feel the blame should lay there and there only,

why dont promoters put on their advertising that BOOTS could well be played at this venue so if you dont agree then fook off somewhere else

Bearsy

nice points mate

Sorry Moggy !! I just think that one of the main reasons for being into this music is the enjoyment factor , otherwise we might just as well stay at home. Best ,Eddie

Correct Eddie, I think we all started off with the enjoyment factor top of our list

But then most forget about it as the years roll on my mate

and then everything seems all so serious

Never Mind

the word Boot has been mentioned loads of times,do we know she was playing boots ?, if she was playing " legit" Re-issues,who exactly is she upsetting....mainly collector-DJs, I dont agree with playing boots out , but " legit" Re-issues....some of ya do need to get a life

Bazza

How has this thread affected the said accused personally if she knows about it which i kind of think she would by now, ffs she played some boots and no i dont agree but all this shit she is now copping for fook sake has anyone been injured or killed

give her my regards and tell her to do what she wants and fook em all, why aint the promoter been hammered as i personally feel the blame should lay there and there only,

why dont promoters put on their advertising that BOOTS could well be played at this venue so if you dont agree then fook off somewhere else

Bearsy

Someone made a point about a particular DJ and it developed into a discussion, nobody's attacked her personally, just stated that they disagree with her 'ethics' on this point, and why. Been plenty of posts on the other side as well. As I said in an earlier post about 500 pages ago, if someone is familiar with the soul scene then they should be aware that playing boots is controversial. And if you're going to put yourself up as a DJ then you have to be prepared to defend your choice in records, both in musical taste and in format - if you're not then you shouldn't be doing it.

Edited January 14, 200817 yr by rachel

give her my regards and tell her to do what she wants and fook em all,

Bearsy

Well said that man!

Boring now this. Run it's course.

Someone made a point about a particular DJ and it developed into a discussion, nobody's attacked her personally, just stated that they disagree with her 'ethics' on this point, and why. Been plenty of posts on the other side as well. As I said in an earlier post about 500 pages ago, if someone is familiar with the soul scene then they should be aware that playing boots in controversial. And if you're going to put yourself up as a DJ then you have to be prepared to defend your choice in records, both in musical taste and in format - if you're not then you shouldn't be doing it.

I Can not keep of this thread but a very very good point

Boring now this. Run it's course.

No way lets put it at a vote all in favour playing boots or originals only , I would like to see the end result.

How has this thread affected the said accused personally if she knows about it which i kind of think she would by now, ffs she played some boots and no i dont agree but all this shit she is now copping for fook sake has anyone been injured or killed

give her my regards and tell her to do what she wants and fook em all, why aint the promoter been hammered as i personally feel the blame should lay there and there only,

why dont promoters put on their advertising that BOOTS could well be played at this venue so if you dont agree then fook off somewhere else

Bearsy

Im talking to her

She would like to thanks everyone who has sent her messages of support she really appreciates it and will thank them personally if she gets the chance

Im talking to her

She would like to thanks everyone who has sent her messages of support she really appreciates it and will thank them personally if she gets the chance

Any chance of a playlist then? Or even just a 'yes I played boots and I'm proud of it' or a 'no I didn't play boots, how dare you' message....?

No way lets put it at a vote all in favour playing boots or originals only , I would like to see the end result.

come on mate who cares as long as its a good night n we can dance eh suprised craig s not waded in yet ha ha

Edited January 14, 200817 yr by eddyg