Steve L

If you play grade a record and describe it as VG, VG+, Ex, Ex+, M- etc without taking account of the visual - how can you tell the difference between those grades? To me a record either plays well or it doesn't Can anyone tell the difference between a VG+ and an Ex grade by listening? Must have better hearing than me

The grey area about visual and play grades is a problem. To me a grading is visual and if it plays any different to the visual grade then it should be stated. Also one factor that never gets mentioned is the light which you are looking at the record in. The room I use has a light fitting with 3x50 watt bulbs which shows up any flaws, take record with scratches on into another room with ordinary bulbs and it can look mint

Issue sorted now, thanks for all the comments

Got in touch with the seller, apparently he thinks its ok to post without stiffeners as the record was in a strong card sleeve So the fault is with some "hoof fisted postie" as he put it

Just had a record come via royal mail signed for. I noticed the outside of the mailer had an indentation along one edge and sure enough the record, whilst in otherwise lovely condition, has a small crack in the edge. There weren't any stiffeners inside with the record though! Is it the senders responsibility to claim compensation? Should I just ask to return and let him deal with it? Any advice?

Doh You know my memory has gone mate, you need to make allowances

Cant see it listed in either price guide

Damn missed it :-(

Whats the story on this? unreleased? cant find it listed anywhere What a record!

Thats just the type of answer I was hoping for at the start of the thread Rick Cheers. Thanks to eveyone else who's chipped in as well

Are demos harder than issues?

Thanks but a tad expensive, there's one for sale elsewhere at £40

Spot on - ok for an over 50s disco but not on the rar.......... hang on that what most soul nights are now anyway Forget it

My styrene one is the black lettering curved logo

My Poppies is styrene

CSP DANA VALERY - YOU DON'T KNOW VIBRATIONS - CAUSE YOU'RE MINE POPPIES - THERES A PAIN IN MY HEART LOU EDWARDS - TALKIN BOUT POOR FOLKS OTIS BLACKWELL -IT'S ALL OVER ME FRENCH FRIES - DANSE A LA MUSIQUE HARRY BETTS - FANTASTIC PLASTIC MACHINE BOBBY DIAMOND - STOP SHANE MARTIN - I NEED YOU LYNNE RANDELL - STRANGER IN MY ARMS TAL MAHAL - AINT THAT A LOT OF LOVE any more?

Loma - must be in M- condition with clean labels

Thanks Pete, I've got a Bobby Diamond and its a different CSP logo design to the others I've got but has a stamped ZSP matrix very similar to Otis Blackwell & French Fries

Anyone got a complete list of all the northern tracks on Columbia Special Products? Also anymore info to add to this old thread would be appreciated

That takes some beating, when was that Sean, recently? If so gives us all hope

The main thing for me here seems to be missing in most arguments. Check out post 11, theres a clip of the record being played in the Crazy Horse at the Butlins weekender in Feb. I was there at the time to witness this (unfortunately) Now this is an oldies only crowd, many resplendent in their bags, with a beer towel tucked away in their badge covered holdall. This record comes on and the floor is heaving Why? Its not a Wigan stomper! Is it because some "DJ's" ( I use the term loosely ) have decided its worthy of plays and when it comes on and everyone dives to the floor, people think "this is popular - I'd better dance" ??? I know one thing, if Butch had've come on next and played some quality proper tunes the whole crowd would have walked off and stood there with their arms folded!

Thats completely missing the point of that particular argument I reckon The point is not to "progress" to a different type of music but to play records that are basically the same as and as good as the "top 500"

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Mine's just arrived - looking forward to reading it