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Thanks a lot Richard, I think I'm probably a little ignorant if the scale of the edits scene and I must admit enlightened by your be words. I was labouring under the apprehension that this was a commercially orientated rather than enthusiast based. Not keen on a lot of it personally, but realise my hypocrisy when driving today listening to Sasha slice a Whitney Houston accapella over a leftfield track from a thousand years ago, and recalled I almost wet my pants when I heard him do it live for the first time.😁

Thanks Richard, I realise there little cash In recorded music in general and the situation with remixes. I think what concerns me more than the radio play of the edits is all the uncredited edits that appear on SoundCloud and mixcloud, via mixes, where no mention of the original artists is made.

Listening to Craig Charles last night while cooking tea. 😬😵. The thing that come across was just how many edits of old tunes he plays, in fact I don't think he played the original version of any track from the 60's or 70's. In wondering how the royalties are divided? How much does the artist get, how much the re editor? Surely the re editor is getting paid? Is this at the expense of the original artists?

Not seen that one yet. Started half way through. Funny but better detail and insight than I've seen on many documentaries.

Seems plenty to interest funk fans, after the two part James brown, I've just watched one on Morris Day and prince, next up Bette Davis

Just watched this, the animation was a little off putting initially but really enjoyed it. personally. Wasn't aware of the issues between Joe Tex and JB. 😬🤪

Loughborough all nighter around 88. Arrived easily enough from London on the train, where I was studying, never been to the town before but easily found the venue, town hall, if I remember correctly, nighter bag in hand I was told by the bouncer 'allnighter, that was last night pal!' Back to the station, last train to London had gone, first at 7 in the morning, cold nights sleep under the bench on the platform. Shrugged it off and was back at an nighter the following week.

43 miles on foot? 🤔

Well I just hope Sammy gets something out it, if he's still around.

Just checked out the tracks you mentioned, that's a few minutes of my life I'll never get back, but hey ho. I think there crass, cheesey and plastic. Lacking class or originality and I'm surprised they have duped anybody on here. I'm not suggesting the're ripping of Northern soul, just soul asthetics in its loosest sense. Essentially as plastic and vacuous as WCF.

Anyone got an opinion on the allergies track? Relative to footsie. What I'm getting at is, the allergies is the thin end the wedge for me in terms of contemporary retro soul, though there are many more, they remind me of the Wigan talor made's. Why? They're both just really lazy half arsed attempts at dancefloor pop. They take the elements and stylings of soul and assemble these plastic facsimiles. A lot of the new releases have an undefinable quality that just lacks the authenticity of true 60's soul records.

In that case, Do to perhaps think Mr Gordy was let's say comparable to stock Aitken and waterman?

It has its saving grace in exposing the scene to the mainstream. The allergies track just exploits the sensibility of soul records, with none of the actual soul, IMHO.

Seems to me to be an insidious creep of retro soul lite, as I'll call it, for purposes of debate. Anyway the allergies track epitomises the crop of cod soul that often features on daytime radio, I'm sure you'll remind me of others.🙄 WCF epitomises the worst of the commercialism of the 70's. I'd prefer footsie personally, at it's a half decent pop record.

Goes to show that the diggers, hip hop breaks, head's, know there stuff and are as on it, as anyone from the upfront scene.

Sounds a little like Marlena Shaw to these ears

Might not be to all tastes again, but in terms of vocal skill, can anyone top that? https://youtu.be/uM3Wt4eYFpE

Lots will hate this but this, but it's brilliant to me and has a whole lotta soul IMHO.

https://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2020/04/the-bizarre-story-of-the-imitation-queen-of-soul/ Mention of lavelle Hardy in there.

Personal favourite

Possibly it's a much needed distraction ATM.

Some excellent folk art there, thank you.

That's a re press isn't it? Did this come out originally on soul potion?

I wonder, working in a mainstream record shop at the time, if you were registered for chart sales you literally got 100's of singles given to you every week. Tihings like this were never full price to customers either, usually 99p in attempts to get them to sell. The whole industry in the 90's was seriously currupt. Sol I wouldn't treat any chart as an accurate record of real sales. Brian Adams, no 1 for all those weeks, yet you never see it in a charity shop, odd that. 😁

Wonder if that included 12 inch sales, I'd say at that time that s would have sold more on that format, I bought on a 12 the time, and I honestly was interested in 7 inch singles at that point. I exect it's more common on a 12. I don't have a 7, never seen it at car boots ect, but I'm not trying to big it's rarity, tis common as Corona.